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EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J.—Sitting in front of his locker, New York Giants defensive end Jason Pierre-Paul looked bigger than last season, when he became one of the NFL’s top defensive ends. Pierre-Paul said he had gained only five pounds. Must have been five pounds of muscle. "Becoming more of a man," Pierre-Paul said with a smile at Tuesday’s minicamp. At 6-5, 295 pounds, Pierre-Paul moves with the agility of someone much smaller. |
He had a sack of brady on a stunt in the regular season, but one of my personal criticisms of fewell was lining up jpp inside. he doesnt really standout to me pass rushing as a tackle
same with tollefson
I believe in JPP.
Come week 1 he'll be down to 285-290 . IMO his ideal weight is 280
JPP's length also helps him two gap, so I still think he can dominate on run defense even when being blocked by two guys with just his long arms.
As far as pass protection goes, beating double teams is 100% all about quickness (and in some cases working your way free with effort/pass rush moves) -- never just sheer strength.
Me, I don't think its necessary for JPP to bulk up. There was talk last season about jpp getting bigger by about 15 pounds I believe. Even more? Its unnecessary in my view. JPP absolutely has the frame to hold that weight, so maybe he won't lose some quickness as a result of being heavier/stronger. But we'll see
If it 'aint broke, don't fix it? lol
Simply put, JPP is a beast. JPP will be fine... I mean how much can a lineman adding some muscle weight really hurt them? It's not like he got fat. Besides, I remember all the scouts talking about how much weight he could add to his frame when he got drafted. Let's not get spoiled here, we've got bigger worries than a 2nd year player that you could easily argue was the 1st or 2nd best defender in the league last year.
I haven't been this excited about a player since, well, Eli Manning. What a time to be a Giant fan!
Not among the things I'd even remotely be worried about. He's a DE, not a CB. If I'm an opposing offensive tackle, I'm worried.
The reason why JPP is a freak is his size/speed combination. This just adds to that.
That is all.
I don't think we see that as often at DT. Which is why JPP arrived last year when Osi was out and he moved outside as full-time DE. But one year of JPP learning more techniques from a veteran Tuck and Osi both playing in "prove it" years should be worth him playing inside more to let the 3 of them be there at the same time. Maybe 2 years from now he can be even more dominant outside with more advanced moves outside and extra experience inside.
One of the worst negatives you see in a scouting report is that a player looks too robotic and mechanical. JPP is the least robotic and mechanical looking 290lb player I've ever seen. He's so fluid with his movements, I think he has the tools to develop great moves outside.
But this is a year to go all out and repeat. When a team has a dominant front 7 and an elite QB they will always have a shot. That's what the Giants will have this next season.
JPP is the young dominant Ace who nearly won a Cy Young year 2. Tuck can be an Ace if he's healthy. Osi used to be an Ace but only throws 91 now with some walks and homers but still K's a ton of guys and can dominate for stretches. When this team has all of them going at the same time it's the equivalent of a beastly pitching staff. Because they have great depth on top of the top end talent.
Eli is the clutchest heart of the order in the league. Hall of Fame clutch. They might not finish Top 3 in hitting every year but they're the best team in baseball at hitting in the late innings of close games. And consistently the clutchest around during the biggest moments. And not only is he clutch but he plays every game every year.
The Giants are in a great position to do something special next year. Repeat means Dynasty or atleast Dynasty potential. And I really feel like this is the year where this team can peak. Its up to the OL but Eli proved last year that he could win with a below average group protecting him. I also really can't see this OL being worse than this past seasaon. This team missed an opportunity in '08 but this opportunity is even greater because of what they're going for and how well they look set up for the future. But the potential of an Osi/Tuck/JPP attack is at its peak right now. Should be a great year.
I gather you never saw Reggie White or Deacon Jones play?
But JPP's future is to be as good as those two were.
Maybe even better...
I gather you never saw Reggie White or Deacon Jones play?
But JPP's future is to be as good as those two were.
Maybe even better...
Reggie White was a monster. I think it's safe to say that JPPs floor is Strahan or Tuck at the very least. That's saying alot.
I never saw Deacon Jones play, (saw him on Big Miked Dupp SB46 week) but he reminds me of Osi.
But just because of his quickness and fluidity he's nothing like I've seen for a guy that big and strong. Peppers was close but I don't think he was as smooth. And Mario Williams might be the most naturally gifted athlete the DE position has seen, but I don't think he's ever shown the fluidity of JPP.
He's a beast.
The proof of that (weight not influencing get-off at the snap) was evident when we watched Fred Robbins play.
He is going to be 295 and probably will still look lean.
Nothing to see here. Move on. Move on.
Jsak222 : 11:34 am
5th leg is probably as long as his arms and weighs about 15 pounds...
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