Boomer's comments during the documentary were absolutely disgraceful. What a moron. First, he says that the Giants organziation and Parcells coddled LT. How does he know that? Was he there in the Giants locker room or organization? Such a moronic comment.
Worse, yet, he says people hate AROD and the PED players, but somehow do not hate the players who use Cocaine and implies that there is this double standard. Yes, Boomer you idiot. LT was not trying to cheat, he was someone who was addicted to drugs. If anything, it hurt his performance. By contrast, A-Rod and the PED players are trying to cheat the game and improve their performance, that is why fans hate them Boomer, you idiot.
I know there is a thread about this show, but this deserves it owns thread. In part because the LT documentary thread should be about an interesting documentary that does an excellent job of trying to explain LT and his many faults, not get bogged down by some idiot (Boomer) who is obviously too dumb to even realize how stupid he is. However, Boomer should be called out.
that it is mind bottling. Coke hurt his performance on the field.
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Boomer grew up in East Islip, Long Island, a nice, 98% white
New York City suburb and went to the excellent, 98% white East Islip high school. He wasn't born with the same demons inside as LT.
Seriously? Why shouldn't he be allowed to comment? That's a crock of shit and a big reason nothing can be discussed anywhere in this country. Everyone starts bitching the second something is said you don't agree with. Taylor's not a crack baby from inner city. He crew up in Williamsburg with a schoolteacher for a mom.
Taylor was coddled and to deny that is just stupid. Difference between him and somebody like Christian Peter was LT was a freak of nature so he was allowed to get away with acting like he did.
Saying Taylor was one of the greatest players in history and his addictions left him as less of a player than he could have been are not mutually exclusive. He was the most dominant player I've ever seen. If he wasn't an addict and put effort into training, he would have transcended the sport by reaching even greater heights.
Boomer's second argument's a little dicier, but there's also an inherent hypocrisy involved with sports fans. If your weakness doesn't blatantly damage the team, people will look the other way. Most people didn't complain about ARod's roiding until it started to cost the Yankees in financial flexibility and his body finally broke down.
Have LT get busted for coke the morning of SB XXV and see if people differentiate between coke and roids then.
It's no different than Mickey Mantle. His drinking had to have affected him.
Bottom line is this: Boomer is just like Cartoon, his on-air partner in the morning on WFAN. Throw shit out there, and see what sticks, regardless of it being correct or not. Getting a rise out of people is all that matters.
But a powerful central nervous stimulant could help you in a sport where you need a short burst of energy to be effective such as rushing a passer.
I think a lot of us overreact to the LT bashers because of what he did on the field. Obviously Boomer is a bit of a d&ck. But LT is an addict who payed for a minor prostitute and has done who knows what else.
And of course the Giants Coddled him. If they did not look the other way I'm sure his career would have been a lot shorter on the Giants. Can you imagine him in this day and age how long he would last.
As for what makes his opinion interesting, he was LT's contemporary. He likely knew him on and off the field considering how small the NFL is. You don't want to listen to his opinion? Fast forward.
Some of you are willing to get butthurt over virtually anything.
Why is it disgraceful to say so?
I also agree it should be obvious that the drugs LT took only hurt him and shortened his career, the antithesis of why Arod took drugs.
How could anyone possibly know for a fact that Boomer cheated on his wife?
Boomer is not a Jets fan, in fact I think he has all but said numerous times that he hates the Jets.
LT likely was coddled to some extent, but who cares, he earned it. The guy was the greatest defensive talent to ever wear a uniform, and it could be argued he single handedly turned around the entire Giants organization. Why shouldn't he have been coddled to some degree?
I also think people would have much different take if LT wasn't a Giant.
And no one here knows what Boomer knows or doesn't know about what would go down back then. You don't know who his friends were or who he's talked to or anything. So it is hard to say that he absolutely had no idea. I'm sure he had much more of an idea than any one on this board.
Lt did get away with a ton of shit, don't know I would call it coddling.More like turning a blind eye, although I believe Parcells gave him shit on more than a few ocassions.
As for the coke, i don't care what anyone says, It helped him a few times to deliver his "snotshots". A Coked up LT is nothing to sneeze at, he'd fuck you up.
As far as his personal life, a mess, sure, seedy, sordid and tragic to behold. The one thing I thing that fans at the time realized was the relationship he had with them. This wasn't some aloof megolomaniac who was full of himself, this was a man who cherished his relationship with hsi fans, even as he himself tarnished his own legacy.
When they retired his number, he came out and said to us all, in the middle of the field at Giants Stadium,"This is about YOU and ME". He knew he wasn't perfect, and his life was already a mess at that point, but he never forsook his team, or his fans.For that I will always be grateful, and for all those Sunday afternoons I watched him terrorize the rest of the NFL as he changed the way the game was played.
Boomer can go Fuck Himself.
IMO LT abused himself with drugs, he didn't take them to get any type of edge on the field. I would be shocked to find out differently.
What is disgraceful is that for someone who was not in the locker room or in the organization to say that the Giants were to blame for LT's problems and that they enabled him is absurd. He has no idea what the Giants knew, what they did to get him help, or any of that. He was not there. If Boomer wanted to say, many teams in that era coddled stars, then that would be a valid opinion. I would also add that just because there is a perception that the Giants coddled him, doesn't make it so. Nobody here knows what the Giants did and did not do.
Second, I rarely get into the name calling that is prevalent on this site, but I really need to contain myself because I am about to explode. Anyone who thinks that abusing cocaine or crack (and LT used crack a lot of the time) will improve your performance and is comparable to HGH or Steroids is just so out in left field, I really wonder if they have any reasoning capacity.
I really don't see the outrage over someone having an opinion, regardless if I agree with it or not. Boomer is entitled to his.
just a few weeks ago, I watched the Glickman documentary and he said he always regretted not standing up for his black teammate who was allowed to play in the south. he regretted not standing up for him and said he could have done more, but did not because he did not want to be seen as a trouble maker.
parcells career is over, he is in the hall of fame, if he thinks he coddled him, it would be far from unprecedented to say that he wished he had done more or that he made mistakes etc and what those mistakes were. on the contrary, Parcells was furious about people who have lodged those allegations.
But let's just take him by his word and bash anyone that says different. Makes sense.
When asked about his guy, Stanley Wilson being so high during the SB, Boomer claimed he had no knowledge of his cocaine use during the SB which of course several members of the Bengals laughed off since it was common knowledge that several players "partied" the night before the game.
I am not saying who I actually think is right, because I just don't know, nor do you. That's my only point.
Don't understand. Everything is discussed everywhere in this country no matter how furious people get. Like abortion and the death penalty.
A lot of people think that it's OK to talk about what LT did but you shouldn't throw stones at him unless you're almost perfect yourself or you're sure that you, dealt the same hand as LT, would have played the cards better.
That's where I actually give the Francesser a bit of credit. He has stances - he's completely wrong on a lot of them, but he tends not to sway as much. Boomer will pick the side of the fence that will generate as much buzz as possible today and abandon it tomorrow.
"I might have gone for that fumble if it was me"...
and the other guys go "Did you just say you might have gone for the fumble?" incredulously.
Boomer was embarrassed, you could tell he wanted to take it back.
He has 0.0% credibility in my book. I don't believe a word he says.
No one could do what LT could do on the field and the Giants weren't going to lose that "star" player no matter what. That's happened about 100,000 times in the NFL including this week in SF.
I'll bet Boomer doesn't dare mention that on the "NFL" pre game show though.
Boomer's issue with LT is about the strike in 1987. But he doesn't have the guts to say it because he works for the NFL and he's a total hypocrite in every way.
Any of you that support that WFAN morning show by listening to it or buying anything those two assholes sponsor or promote are getting what you deserve.
It was kind of sad to see.
Boomer comes across as a pretentious ass, holier than thou, jealous former player. Everyone else interviewed seemed kind of honest, but respectful, except Boomer.
Randy- "Mind bottling"? Not only the dumbest post but also the dumbest phrase to boot.
Boomer can't talk about other player because he's from East Islip?
Boomer is actually harder on the Jets than he ever is on the gmen. If Boomer were talking about Mark Gastineau nobody here would have an issue, take a step back and judge LT objectively. I love LT but it is laughable the way some people on here are defending him.
Hmmmnn???