of the Vet watching a Giants-Eagles game. There was a play on the far side of the field and he sprinted all the way across the field to make the play. But it wasn't what he did it was how he did it. My buddy and I looked at each other and both said that it was the fastest we had ever seen a human move. It was breathtaking.
Now go watch his interception against the Eagles in the 2000 playoffs. That was AFTER his injury.
He was an absolute freak. His teammates called him Species.
Sehorn was a huge corner, physical, agile corner with great insticts, etc.
Upon his injury on the kickoff return against the Jets, Giants nation was 100 low. Meanwhile, the interview with Sehorn was awkwardly positive. He wasn't down at all. I thought "wow, was a positive guy"
Well, as the years went by, he became more and more awkward. Those attending Giants games at the stadium noticed how Sehorn often never joined the defense in the huddle during TV timeouts. The whole defense would be in a huddle or just hanging together while ME-HORN stood alone about 20 yards away. This happened often.
Once retired, his arrogance in front of the camera was obvious.
Was a Great player for a short time and a ME-Horn for a lot longer.
Revis is an excellent player who somehow gets away with murder in regards to how much he holds. Sehorn, while being a physical corner in the run game would stay more stride for stride with people. He was a willing but not great tackler. He got hurt returning his only kick but you could see just on that return and with the natural skills he had, would've been a great kick returner also. Amazing athlete.
I was at the Giants/Jets pre-season game he got hurt at. It was a Jets home game, but the crowd was pretty close to 50/50. Looking around at all the Giants fans faces, all of us were pretty devastated and shocked that it happened. I was only 15 at the time, and I still remember that moment like it was yesterday.
But pre-ACL Revis was the best CB of this era and one of the better CB's to ever play the game. Absolutely not overrated. He was as legit a shutdown corner as you'll see.
yes, probably. I'm not sure now how Revis is, post ACL surgery.
But in the past whatever # of years Revis was matched up man vs the best receivers in the NFL. Larry Fitzgerald (with Warner), Andre Johnson, etc. and took them all completely out of the game week in week out.
if you don't consider Revis among the best cornerbacks you have ever seen, then you are underrating him.
I agree he was excellent. But, he also gets away with more contact for a DB in a WR/QB friendly era. It's ridiculous. Right off the top of my head, when the term best CB comes up, I go to Darryl Green, Champ Bailey, Rod Woodson and a few others first. Hell, even with his lack of tackling, Deion was worlds better than Revis.
(It was that brutal loss, where everything went wrong late including an onsides kick). Anyway, he made an interception on Randal Cunningham where he jumped, spun in the air and made the play. Just spectacular.
See my post. It is amazing how much Revis gets away with. I can't really judge him against the all time greats as he seems to be able to play by 1970's rules.
Saw him make a pick right in front of me on a long ball in a Dallas game. Forget who the wideout was, but he was stride for stride with the guy and just hauled it in. Gives me the chills just remembering it. What a shame he was injured.
Sehorn was on Irvin and fell down in coverage 20+ yards down field. Aikman released the ball and i swore Sehorn was 10 yards beat. He got back up and pole vaulted off of his massive penis launching himself 15 feet in the air. He then nabbed the ball at its highest point, fell down and broke his fall on Tito Wooten. Got right back up and returned it back to the Dallas 23
No, because the point is this is an era where almost no contact by a DB is tolerated, yet he is allowed to grab a WR all the way down the field all game long.
It is HARDER to defend the pass with the rule changes now than it used to be. How did Revis have it easier than DB's in the past who were able to make a hell of a lot more contact?
I think he is great, but not as good as a number of all time greats. And yes, though admittedly biased, I think I would take Sehorn in his prime over Revis. My point, though, about what he is allowed to get away with on a week in week out basis is that it makes it impossible to compare him to other CBs in his own era.
So he plays by a separate set of rules from the other CB's in this era
Sehorn was better than Revis. And he wasn't a Patrick Peterson level prospect either. He was a very good corner, a great athlete, probably no better than the 4th best player on that 97 Giant D that was awesome. Prime Strahan, prime Keith Hamilton, prime Armstead. That 97 team had more sacks than the 07 Giant team and had a beastly front 7.
When Sehorn came back from the injury, he was still very good. But people focus too much on the ACL as the reason for his decline. He kept having various other injury issues after his comeback, and the talent in the front 7 deteriorated, which obviously effected him. That 1997 front 7 was off the charts good
He remained an awesome athlete even after the injury. I recall every offseason when NBC used to have those silly athletic competitions with NFL players, Jason Sehorn was competing in and winning those events multiple times
I was actually just about to post that it is almost the Michael Jordan affect. Not quite, but almost. The thing I hate about this type of argument is that it comes across as me knocking Revis. I do think he is great. I just don't think he is even in the top 5 of all time, whereas a lot of people are calling him the best ever.
As for his time with the Jets, I do go back to that affect. There were some individual games where an opposing DB got flagged for what seemed to be incidental contact on critical plays and afterwards, Revis essentially mugged the receiver to no flag.
Where I think Revis is slightly overrated, I think Sehorn was slightly underrated by the media during his time. Too much focus was made about a white CB, instead of recognizing that he was one of the top 5 CBs in the league at the time.
And to think that as good as he was as a CB, he was almost that bad as a FS, which was what he was drafted as. He initially lined up his first camp as a FS and was getting shredded every day. Thank G-d, they converted him to a CB right away.
I remember watching the team run suicides in Albany
Are you sure about that? Green, for almost his entire career, was billed as the fastest player in the NFL. He had ungodly speed even at the end of his career. It wasn't fair how good he was. In my time, watching since the 80s, he was the best CB I've ever seen.
And, I agree with you about the 97 D. That was one of my favorite Giant defenses. I absolutely loved Armstead. They missed him for several years after he left.
I think youve got it completely wrong. The difference between them is he was absolutely not as fluid as Patrick Peterson. Patrick Peterson has freak Change of direction skills and is even faster than Sehorn straight line. This is a guy who set a record for punt return TDs in a season, and he did it as a rookie. This is a guy who can and does work in at WR.
problem with national acclaim was obviously longevity. he had one or two elite seasons then was simply good post-injury, until the sadness of 2002. Watching him abused by Terrell Owens in the 2002 playoff game was one of the low points of my football fandom.
no legend either, he was legit.
A total ballhawk too. Could go get and do something with, which is a talent he retained after the injury.
Could have been one of the greats.
Now go watch his interception against the Eagles in the 2000 playoffs. That was AFTER his injury.
He was an absolute freak. His teammates called him Species.
Upon his injury on the kickoff return against the Jets, Giants nation was 100 low. Meanwhile, the interview with Sehorn was awkwardly positive. He wasn't down at all. I thought "wow, was a positive guy"
Well, as the years went by, he became more and more awkward. Those attending Giants games at the stadium noticed how Sehorn often never joined the defense in the huddle during TV timeouts. The whole defense would be in a huddle or just hanging together while ME-HORN stood alone about 20 yards away. This happened often.
Once retired, his arrogance in front of the camera was obvious.
Was a Great player for a short time and a ME-Horn for a lot longer.
He still went on to have some solid years after '98.. but he was never the same guy.
But in the past whatever # of years Revis was matched up man vs the best receivers in the NFL. Larry Fitzgerald (with Warner), Andre Johnson, etc. and took them all completely out of the game week in week out.
if you don't consider Revis among the best cornerbacks you have ever seen, then you are underrating him.
James Jett was insanely fast, too. But outside of him, I can't recall ever seeing a player as fast as Green was.
Wouldn't it be the opposite?
It is HARDER to defend the pass with the rule changes now than it used to be. How did Revis have it easier than DB's in the past who were able to make a hell of a lot more contact?
but anyone who tells you'd they take Sehorn in his prime over Revis is 100% a Giants fan.
When Sehorn came back from the injury, he was still very good. But people focus too much on the ACL as the reason for his decline. He kept having various other injury issues after his comeback, and the talent in the front 7 deteriorated, which obviously effected him. That 1997 front 7 was off the charts good
He remained an awesome athlete even after the injury. I recall every offseason when NBC used to have those silly athletic competitions with NFL players, Jason Sehorn was competing in and winning those events multiple times
As for his time with the Jets, I do go back to that affect. There were some individual games where an opposing DB got flagged for what seemed to be incidental contact on critical plays and afterwards, Revis essentially mugged the receiver to no flag.
And to think that as good as he was as a CB, he was almost that bad as a FS, which was what he was drafted as. He initially lined up his first camp as a FS and was getting shredded every day. Thank G-d, they converted him to a CB right away.