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Do the Giants feel there is any chance Will Hill wins his appeal? Will Giants stick with him even if does win appeal? They do, which is why he hasn't been released yet. That being said, the team is not happy about the constant stream if issues (even though Jerry Reese knew what he was getting into). East Rutherford might not be the best place for Will, who had a tough upbringing just a few miles away from the Giants facility. That being said, Hill knows he's on thin ice, and admitted as much in an interview last year. |
Is that true? I can't find any evidence they ever signed Will Hill.
It's not in his stats pages, wikipedia, and only article I found about it refutes it.
I am sure your information is better than mine, LOL since my "research" means google searching.
They won't be, at least not officially. It's protected information by the CBA. The league won't disclose it. They only categorize it as performance-enhancing substance or other substance.
Yeah,yeah,In Reese We Blaze
Anyone know what happened to contracts of players suspended for a full year?
http://www.alligatorarmy.com/2011/7/25/2293953/washington-redskins-sign-will-hill - ( New Window )
His arrest in December where weed was allegedly found in his car would be a stage two violation.
Of course, I know absolutely nothing about what he has told front office members, team officials or teammates. There is so much that goes on behind closed doors that we have no idea about. All I know is what happens between the lines, that I can watch, the guy is a phenomenal talent.
Police: Giants safety Hill was behind $9K in child support; odor of marijuana in car - ( New Window )
It is annoying
I just don't get this, but OK.
How many times has he been suspended specifically for substance abuse, and is the pending suspension for substance abuse. Answering these two questions, seems to me, would answer how long Hill is slated to be suspended for.
I don't get how this distinction hasn't been priority #1 for Giants' beat writers. It's the biggest story on the defense at the moment.
If JPP bounces back and Hankins stuffs the run and pass it just opens things up for middle for blitzes and stuff. Our defense has a chance to be special if it stays healthy and plays to its abilities.
Last, I have this funny feeling - a guess really - that DE Ayers is going to have a "break out" season and win the starting job and show the NFL why he was once a #1 pick. If that happens we have a superb DL, DB and LB set. When is the last time we had all those in place?
Hope Mr. Hill bucks whatever those odds are.
Richard Sherman won his appeal. So,, it does happen.
not surprised at what ??
Another member of the "every silver lining has its cloud" crowd. I hope you never, ever serve on a jury; you simply aren't capable of rational, critical thought.
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to happen very often...does it?
Hope Mr. Hill bucks whatever those odds are.
Richard Sherman won his appeal. So,, it does happen.
Sherman's suspension was for PEDs not recreational drugs. You are more likely to win PEDs. Also Sherman was never in the NFL treatment program. Very different circumstances.
Nevertheless, whatever the reasons, it's time for the NFL to catch up to the present Zeitgeist of this country. By 2017, there is likely to be a federal law enacted to decriminalize and legalize marijuana throughout the US.
Sure I'm prejudiced in my view because I am a big Will Hill fan. However, haven't the major sports led the way in being the testing ground to change societal mores? Well (again), the NFL needs to step up here and change their drug policy regarding smoking reefer. Lots of players do it during the offseason. Unfortunately, it seems "Will the Thrill" has been under the microscope.
Mike,
I respect your opinion. But how can you say that Hill screwed up? Is that because he got caught? Remember, his previous indiscretion was with stimulant medication (which he claimed that he needed). Is smoking a little grass a screw up? I understand the rules that players are contracted to through the NFL CBA. However, getting caught smoking grass (IMHO) should not be grounds for suspension in the NFL. And if anything, the Giants should go to bat for Will and protect him (citing that the present rules in place for smoking marijuana are effete).
But Rules are Rules and the NFL sticks to the Rules!
You're not going to lose a lesser but still good player by keeping a suspended Hill. If you lose that player in order to keep an active Hill, you haven't lost, you've won.
The turnover rate in the NFL is 20%+ year to year. Chances are the "lesser but still good player" is not going to be on the team next year anyway. Keep the better player.
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how confident can you be he won't screw up again - they have a lot of players at the safety position. if he wins his appeal, do you keep him and cut a player of lesser but still good ability and take a chance Hill won't screw up again?
Mike,
I respect your opinion. But how can you say that Hill screwed up? Is that because he got caught? Remember, his previous indiscretion was with stimulant medication (which he claimed that he needed). Is smoking a little grass a screw up? I understand the rules that players are contracted to through the NFL CBA. However, getting caught smoking grass (IMHO) should not be grounds for suspension in the NFL. And if anything, the Giants should go to bat for Will and protect him (citing that the present rules in place for smoking marijuana are effete).
He screwed up because he (reportedly) tested positive for a substance that is:
a) prohibited by the NFL's substance abuse policy and
b) is still illegal in 48 states and nationally
Whether or not is should (or will) be legalized in the coming years has no bearing on the case. The Commish might decide some leniency is in order due to the slowly changing landscape, but that doesn't mean Hill didn't screw up.
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I'm not surprised.
not surprised at what ??
Not surprised they think he can win the appeal.
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how confident can you be he won't screw up again - they have a lot of players at the safety position. if he wins his appeal, do you keep him and cut a player of lesser but still good ability and take a chance Hill won't screw up again?
Mike,
I respect your opinion. But how can you say that Hill screwed up? Is that because he got caught? Remember, his previous indiscretion was with stimulant medication (which he claimed that he needed). Is smoking a little grass a screw up? I understand the rules that players are contracted to through the NFL CBA. However, getting caught smoking grass (IMHO) should not be grounds for suspension in the NFL. And if anything, the Giants should go to bat for Will and protect him (citing that the present rules in place for smoking marijuana are effete).
Since Hill knew he was in the NFL's drug program and his job depended on staying clean in frequent unannounced drug tests, smoking weed, even in a state where it is already legal, qualifies as screwing up. Even if you think the rules are effete.
(that's assuming that he's an otherwise good teammate - something I don't get to see everyday and admittedly know nothing about)
Fairly certain this is not what the 2014 NY Giants will do. So what is up next on your legal strategy board?