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Per Mike G: David Wilson not cleared yet

Brandon Walsh : 6/4/2014 10:03 am
will meet again with doctor right before training camp and the hope is then.

This is per twitter, can't link from work.

Not good news regardless that they didn't see enough to clear him.
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I love how Mike Garafolo  
robbieballs2003 : 6/4/2014 10:04 am : link
breaks more Giants news than our beat reporters.
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26.2 : 6/4/2014 10:09 am : link
for some reason I wasn't expecting him to be cleared. I do think he'll play again, but it'll be kind of like a kenny phillips type deal where he'll never be the same and he'll be on the injury report more than he's not. too bad we couldn't have just kept him as strictly a KR.
More info from Conor Orr  
Brandon Walsh : 6/4/2014 10:15 am : link
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Link - ( New Window )
and that's why they signed Jennings and drafted Williams  
Greg from LI : 6/4/2014 10:16 am : link
They're not counting on Wilson returning.
No reason to rush it, but I hope he can be cleared for training camp.  
SoDev : 6/4/2014 10:21 am : link
He doesn't need any setbacks. I'm still hoping he can turn this thing around.
Thats too bad, although not really suprising.  
Curtis in VA : 6/4/2014 10:21 am : link
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I don't think we are going to see Wilson again...  
okiegiant : 6/4/2014 10:22 am : link
I think(imho)he was going to be a solid performer for the Giants, but sometimes things happen.
RE: and that's why they signed Jennings and drafted Williams  
Klaatu : 6/4/2014 10:25 am : link
In comment 11710314 Greg from LI said:
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They're not counting on Wilson returning.


Agreed. Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst.
I had high hopes for him...  
SB : 6/4/2014 10:28 am : link
...but he was not a good pick even before he got hurt.
Not sure  
NYBEN : 6/4/2014 10:30 am : link
why this is such a big deal...OTA's are non-contact anyway. If he isn't cleared for training camp then it will be a much bigger issue. From what I understand he's out there running around catching passes and getting mental reps.
Stupid question...  
andrew_nyg : 6/4/2014 10:37 am : link
What do they expect to see that's different on the film (MRI) between now and 5 weeks from now?
Its not a big deal if he gets cleared before camp  
Blue Baller : 6/4/2014 10:40 am : link
But it would have been nice to get the clean bill of health now

But it could just be the Drs and the team being conservative since there is no real upside to clearing him now as there is no reason to have contact between now and camp anyway.

Side note, the Giants approach to injuries is why I don't think they will make a serious run at Finley
Guys  
PaulN : 6/4/2014 10:42 am : link
i had 3 fusion surgeries, and it usually takes about 3-4 months, but i was not going back to playing pro football, he may be progressing great, but he may not be ready for contact, remember we had a wide reciever go through a similar surgery and he came back to finish a pretty full career, Ike Hilton I believe was his name. Wilson may get the green light is 5 weeks when training camp opens, if it opened today, he would not be cleared, that is all this means, he may still be on track, so this is not bad news at all, he is only 4 1/2 months removed from surgery.
I don't disagree Andrew but since there is no  
Jimmy Googs : 6/4/2014 10:43 am : link
contact anyway until mid July, I have a feeling today's news about not being cleared yet might have been pre-determined.

"we had him  
Fish : 6/4/2014 10:43 am : link
As the top guy on our draft board"
RE:  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/4/2014 10:46 am : link
In comment 11710383 Fish said:
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As the top guy on our draft board"


This should be good.

What does that have to do with him being cleared from spinal surgery?
I held/hold little hope for  
Big Blue '56 : 6/4/2014 10:47 am : link
his return, or at least return to effectiveness..A RB with a neck issue such as his? I'd be pleasantly surprised even if ultimately cleared..
What's the panic?  
old man : 6/4/2014 10:53 am : link
He can still do non-contact at OTAs, practice holding onto the ball, and learn the playbook.
If we see the Giants signing a DW-type speedy back,or bringing in a bunch on tryout Tuesdays, we'll learn what they think.
In the meantime we've waited 1 1/2seasons, we can wait a while longer.
And I disagree w/SB; while we may have been better to go OL,LB with his pick, we needed aa AB replacement as well.
BBI story  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/4/2014 10:55 am : link
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David Wilson Still Not Cleared for Contact - ( New Window )
thanks, Googs  
andrew_nyg : 6/4/2014 10:55 am : link
but I wasn't making a backhanded statement, it was an actual question: I would really like to know what they are looking at on that film that could change in 5 weeks.
.  
DanMetroMan : 6/4/2014 10:57 am : link
Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 1m

Giants RB David Wilson, who met w/ doctors this am, will meet again w/ doctors in July and expects to be cleared for full contact in camp.
According to Schefter  
Josh in the City : 6/4/2014 10:58 am : link
Wilson still expects to be cleared for contact by training camp.
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@AdamSchefter
Giants RB David Wilson, who met w/ doctors this am, will meet again w/ doctors in July and expects to be cleared for full contact in camp.
Josh  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/4/2014 11:03 am : link
Wilson expected to be cleared today, so I wouldn't put much stock into that.
Could  
AcidTest : 6/4/2014 11:04 am : link
start on the PUP list, so we bring him in later in the year. But let's see what happens five weeks from now before camp. It would have been good if he had been cleared, but it's not a disaster that he isn't. We have Jennings and Williams.

OTOH, we could have had Cordy Glenn.
Ike  
Pete from Woodstock : 6/4/2014 11:04 am : link
Hilliard!!
Wilson  
stretch234 : 6/4/2014 11:06 am : link
He had his surgery in January and Finley had his in November - I believe about 8 weeks earlier.

That puts Finley being cleared for contact in that same window ahead of Wilson being cleared (hopefully)
RE: Josh  
Josh in the City : 6/4/2014 11:14 am : link
In comment 11710433 Eric from BBI said:
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Wilson expected to be cleared today, so I wouldn't put much stock into that.


True but that wasn't based on anything but hope. The fact that he still expects to be cleared by camp means the image today showed real tangible improvement being that he still believes that goal is attainable.
RE: Josh  
Big_Blue_Wrecking_Crew : 6/4/2014 11:14 am : link
In comment 11710433 Eric from BBI said:
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Wilson expected to be cleared today, so I wouldn't put much stock into that.


Let's not assume the worst here.

There may have been some improvement but just not enough for our sometimes very conservative staff (which is very careful to protect the players long term health and risk for injury moreso than other teams) to clear him.

Just a guess here and I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, but if there was no improvement I don't think we would have heard he expects to be cleared by July.
Remember one thing  
Larry in Pencilvania : 6/4/2014 11:14 am : link
If he's cleared he can't be PUP'd



And who is Ike Hilton?
RE: Remember one thing  
Josh in the City : 6/4/2014 11:15 am : link
In comment 11710457 Larry in Pencilvania said:
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If he's cleared he can't be PUP'd



And who is Ike Hilton?


I believe he can still be PUP'd if he doesn't participate in team activities during camp.
Not  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/4/2014 11:19 am : link
saying we should expect the worst, but haven't you guys learned anything about not listening to what the player says about an injury?

How many times have we heard a guy like Brandon Jacobs or someone else say, "I'm fine...I'm playing..." and then they end up not or worse, on IR.

Wilson tells Schefter by e-mail that he expects to be cleared by camp. There is a very good chance that's just bluster on his part.
I'd be lot happier  
PEEJ : 6/4/2014 11:24 am : link
with a quote from the doctor.
Wilson will be a great player  
deadkurtrulz : 6/4/2014 11:24 am : link
in the National Flag League. No contact, no fumbles, no pass blocking, lots of speed. Not an NFL player though. Before or after injury. He will always be remembered for a couple of garbage time highlights. A wasted pick.
Josh once he passes his physical  
Larry in Pencilvania : 6/4/2014 11:24 am : link
For camp he can't be PUP'd. If the neck bothers him in camp or preseason he is sol and would be ird if need be
yep  
alligatorpie : 6/4/2014 11:26 am : link
a pile of us wanted an OLer.
To think the NYG could have picked Cordy Glenn instead  
Optimus-NY : 6/4/2014 11:30 am : link
That would have helped the OL immeasurably.

I am not sure if this was ever known.....  
Doomster : 6/4/2014 11:33 am : link
Did the Giants know of any previous history with his neck, before drafting him?

It's a shame, because he did have to potential to take it to the house....Giants haven't had a runner like that since Morris....Tiki had long runs, but it was more because of his elusiveness rather than raw speed...

The Giants, for whatever Reason, have been snake bit with their drafts.....that can't seem to draft beyond the 1st or 2nd round, and even those picks, we get a couple years out of them and then they are gone.....Wilson, JPP, Nicks, Beatty, Phillips, Thomas, Ross, Smith, etc.

RE: Not  
AcidTest : 6/4/2014 11:46 am : link
In comment 11710468 Eric from BBI said:
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saying we should expect the worst, but haven't you guys learned anything about not listening to what the player says about an injury?

How many times have we heard a guy like Brandon Jacobs or someone else say, "I'm fine...I'm playing..." and then they end up not or worse, on IR.

Wilson tells Schefter by e-mail that he expects to be cleared by camp. There is a very good chance that's just bluster on his part.


Got to admit, that's certainly possible.
Fans should want him PUPed  
UConn4523 : 6/4/2014 11:55 am : link
I really REALLY hope they don't find a way to activate him week 1. He had the surgery 4.5 months ago and regardless off the world class rehab, fuses generally take upwards of a year to be considered "healed". I hope this kid isn't rushed back.
Optimus  
bc4life : 6/4/2014 12:13 pm : link
They definitely needed a rb given what they had on hand; however, need based drafts can come back to haunt you.

And, in view if Glenn playing fairly well at LT for the Bills, it makes you wonder what they saw or thought saw compelling them to take Wilson over Glenn.
of Glenn  
bc4life : 6/4/2014 12:14 pm : link
not if
I was wondering  
BigBlueCane : 6/4/2014 12:24 pm : link
how long it would take before people brought up him a waste of a draft pick.
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arcarsenal : 6/4/2014 12:24 pm : link
I think it's fairly obvious what the Giants saw in Wilson. We've seen it. His career has taken an unfortunate turn thus far but the book is so far from closed on this dude and people keep talking about him as if he's some past tense player who already happened and never amounted to anything.
This news doesn't seem all that surprising  
ZogZerg : 6/4/2014 12:35 pm : link
I would think there is a good chance he could be cleared by July 25. But, I agree that he should only be cleared if the Drs are 100% absolutely certain about what they are seeing.
RE: Wilson will be a great player  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/4/2014 12:43 pm : link
In comment 11710480 deadkurtrulz said:
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in the National Flag League. No contact, no fumbles, no pass blocking, lots of speed. Not an NFL player though. Before or after injury. He will always be remembered for a couple of garbage time highlights. A wasted pick.


lol. There should be a timer just for posts like these. Set it for 365 days.
RE: Not  
Big_Blue_Wrecking_Crew : 6/4/2014 12:43 pm : link
In comment 11710468 Eric from BBI said:
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saying we should expect the worst, but haven't you guys learned anything about not listening to what the player says about an injury?

How many times have we heard a guy like Brandon Jacobs or someone else say, "I'm fine...I'm playing..." and then they end up not or worse, on IR.

Wilson tells Schefter by e-mail that he expects to be cleared by camp. There is a very good chance that's just bluster on his part.


Eric you certainly have a point. Players do talk big when it comes to timetables for their return from injury. I guess we'll see.
RE: RE: Wilson will be a great player  
arcarsenal : 6/4/2014 12:44 pm : link
In comment 11710654 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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In comment 11710480 deadkurtrulz said:


Quote:


in the National Flag League. No contact, no fumbles, no pass blocking, lots of speed. Not an NFL player though. Before or after injury. He will always be remembered for a couple of garbage time highlights. A wasted pick.



lol. There should be a timer just for posts like these. Set it for 365 days.


The "z at the end of the handle" rule was made especially for douches like these.
RE: To think the NYG could have picked Cordy Glenn instead  
LauderdaleMatty : 6/4/2014 1:03 pm : link
In comment 11710489 Optimus-NY said:
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That would have helped the OL immeasurably.


Reese is whom he is. Always an athlete/potential game breaker over an OL every time. Same this year.
RE: RE: To think the NYG could have picked Cordy Glenn instead  
arcarsenal : 6/4/2014 1:06 pm : link
In comment 11710715 LauderdaleMatty said:
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In comment 11710489 Optimus-NY said:


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That would have helped the OL immeasurably.




Reese is whom he is. Always an athlete/potential game breaker over an OL every time. Same this year.


Which "athlete/game breaker" did he take over OL in the 2nd rd?
Really feel bad for this kid.  
TC : 6/4/2014 1:11 pm : link
What and exciting, promising talent, even if he wasn't destined to be an every down RB. Instead he's become the Giants "bubble boy."

I get the sense the Giants aren't including him as a significant part of their plans, and are getting close to moving on.
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