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David Wilson cleared -- per him

Dannyc58 : 7/21/2014 9:58 am
yes!
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Nice, hopefully he can add that added dimension  
Ben in Tampa : 7/21/2014 10:00 am : link
to the offense and fulfill his 1st round promise. It'd be nice to have a potential home run hitter cycling in and out of the backfield.
This is great news  
Josh in the City : 7/21/2014 10:01 am : link
Excited to see what Wilson can do in this new offense which will feature RB's in the passing game and in open space. He could still end up being our top back this season.
Alright D-dub.  
Giantgator : 7/21/2014 10:01 am : link
Make it count! Show us what you've got.
Please be safe  
Ten Ton Hammer : 7/21/2014 10:01 am : link
I'd really hate for the kid to not have a chance at a career.
I really have no faith  
superspynyg : 7/21/2014 10:02 am : link
that he will hold up for us with such a terrible injury, but it is nice that he is cleared.
Fantastic news  
mrvax : 7/21/2014 10:02 am : link
I hope he's given every chance to succeed.
(Also hoping he's improved at blocking & ball security.)
RE: Please be safe  
Dannyc58 : 7/21/2014 10:02 am : link
In comment 11774322 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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I'd really hate for the kid to not have a chance at a career.


Goes without saying, of course this is only good news if its truly safe.
sweeeeeeeeeeeeeet  
CruzShip52 : 7/21/2014 10:03 am : link
Lets see what he can do with an improved OL and the load off his shoulders

Big year for Jennings/wilson combo

I haven't given up hope on him yet  
Wuphat : 7/21/2014 10:04 am : link
if he can stay healthy.
I'm In The Minority Probably  
AD-Blaze : 7/21/2014 10:05 am : link
But I think "Pocket Rocket" is going to surprise alot of us this year. It's year 3...the light ususally turns green here.
Pocketrocket.  
Tittle 9 20 64 : 7/21/2014 10:05 am : link
I like it.
Hopefully McAdoo can come up with some creative ways to use him  
Greg from LI : 7/21/2014 10:06 am : link
Because he simply isn't a starting RB in this league.
outside of blocking  
UConn4523 : 7/21/2014 10:09 am : link
I don't see any reason why he can't start in this league. But blocking is huge and hopefully can improve.
RE: Hopefully McAdoo can come up with some creative ways to use him  
Josh in the City : 7/21/2014 10:12 am : link
In comment 11774334 Greg from LI said:
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Because he simply isn't a starting RB in this league.


LOL! I'll wait to see if he can learn how to block before jumping to that conclusion. If he can improve his blocking skills and stay healthy, I think there's a very good chance he can be an above average starting rb in this league.
Didn't Kiwi have a similar injury?  
BlueHurricane : 7/21/2014 10:12 am : link
He has come back fully. No reason to think with HSS and the all the Giants medical staff clearing him he is not fully back. Our staff is overly cautious with necks.
Great news  
muhajir : 7/21/2014 10:13 am : link
I hope he's the starter by mid yr. He has the speed and playmaking ability to be a top 5 rb in this league. Jennings is all around very good but limited upside. Wilson has good hands too, caught a few 10+ yard passes, two of them against the Eagles. If the line can open up some holes, Wilson is going to rip off some Chris Johnson like runs this yr.
Still comes down to his response between the  
Big Blue '56 : 7/21/2014 10:14 am : link
ears when the contact begins
Hooray!  
Sarcastic Sam : 7/21/2014 10:14 am : link
*backflips*
my problem  
UConn4523 : 7/21/2014 10:16 am : link
is the time from fusion. They say a fuse starts quickly withing the first 2 months, but doesn't fully harden until 6-12 months. Obviously each case is different but i'd be hesitant letting him start the season so soon. Allowing an extra 6 weeks could be huge for the finishing stages of the healing process; I'd highly consider PUPing him.
Yes, there's his blocking  
Greg from LI : 7/21/2014 10:16 am : link
There's also the fact that he can't find a hole with a roadmap, and that he routinely loses yards when he chooses to do his Barry Sanders routine instead of simply taking the 2-3 yards the defense is giving him. You can do that if you're Barry Sanders. David Wilson is not Barry Sanders.
Don't expect much  
deadkurtrulz : 7/21/2014 10:17 am : link
but if he can at least return kicks it will be good to have Rocky Thompson back.
I couldn't find a hole  
Ten Ton Hammer : 7/21/2014 10:21 am : link
this offensive line has made with a roadmap either. It's about as rare as the white whale.
Giants didn't  
muhajir : 7/21/2014 10:21 am : link
use a 1st rd. pick so they could sprinkle him into the offense. They badly want him to blossom into a play making beast (similar to Mccoy) and will give him every opportunity to do so Imo. Jennings is 29 and might give us 2 or 3 yrs max. They're not talking Wilson up much because of the health concerns but I think the coaches have big plans for him.
could be a weapon catching balls out of the backfield  
oipolloi : 7/21/2014 10:22 am : link
we have seen that he is explosive in the open field

just doesn't seem like a guy who can run between the tackles--but then again neither did Tiki after two years
RE: Hopefully McAdoo can come up with some creative ways to use him  
BrettNYG10 : 7/21/2014 10:23 am : link
In comment 11774334 Greg from LI said:
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Because he simply isn't a starting RB in this league.


I don't think he was even necessarily drafted to be a 25 per-game carry back. He can be wildly successful if we can get him the ball in space, on screens (LOL), etc.

And I think injuries hurt him more than most because he needed the time to develop his vision at this level. He simply can't consistently get away with the shit he did in college because his athleticism advantage isn't as great.

Just my $0.02. Happy he's cleared.
that's a fair point  
UConn4523 : 7/21/2014 10:23 am : link
if this was the same exact team as it was when he was running. But with a new o-line that should be an improvement and a new OC, I expect big improvements for the offense overall.
Pocket Rocket. Now there's a term you seldom see anymore to  
Marty in Albany : 7/21/2014 10:29 am : link
describe an entire person. LOL.

Wilson cleared. Good News for us!!
TTH  
Greg from LI : 7/21/2014 10:33 am : link
The line was awful last year. Two years ago, it was serviceable, and the same problem was there.
He was a rookie 2 years ago  
UConn4523 : 7/21/2014 10:42 am : link
you can hate him all you want for being from VT, but give the man a fair shake atleast. He's shown plenty of flashes and then got dealt a really bad hand with a terrible injury.
.  
arcarsenal : 7/21/2014 10:45 am : link
He averaged 5 yards a clip 2 years ago. He was fine.

Sure, his vision isn't elite or even great but his physical ability is undeniable and I don't think he's incapable of becoming a smarter player.

I'd rather a guy have the physical ability and be taught than have one of those really smart, instinctive guys who just don't have the athleticism to be a next-level player.

I'm looking forward to see how McAdoo uses Wilson. I think he's gonna make plays.
Greg, I agree with your opinion of Wilson  
Some Fan : 7/21/2014 10:45 am : link
He may end up being a 3rd down back that cannot block but occasionally has a long wrong amongst fumbles, getting his QB killed and losing 5 yards.


RE: TTH  
mrvax : 7/21/2014 10:45 am : link
In comment 11774404 Greg from LI said:
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The line was awful last year. Two years ago, it was serviceable, and the same problem was there.


2 years ago he had a 5.0 ypc and 4 TDs in limited carries (71). Not too shabby for a rookie. And... he was dynamic when returning kickoffs too.

Tiki had only 3.8/3.2/4.2 ypc his first 3 years.
RE: Didn't Kiwi have a similar injury?  
area junc : 7/21/2014 10:46 am : link
In comment 11774354 BlueHurricane said:
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He has come back fully. No reason to think with HSS and the all the Giants medical staff clearing him he is not fully back. Our staff is overly cautious with necks.


Yes, he did, but he was never the same player again either. #bigday
Here  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/21/2014 10:46 am : link
is Connor's update...
Giants David Wilson Recives Medical Clearance - ( New Window )
RE: TTH  
Giants Fan in Steelers Land : 7/21/2014 10:46 am : link
In comment 11774404 Greg from LI said:
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The line was awful last year. Two years ago, it was serviceable, and the same problem was there.


Greg are you referring to 2012, where had had almost twice as many carries as 2013, averaged 5.0 yds/carry, and set records in the return game?

You seem to be rooting for this guy to fail.
I think it is 100% assured that he will not start  
Some Fan : 7/21/2014 10:47 am : link
We use a rotation anyway (or at least have used some sort of rotation) so starting may not matter. I think many are way over-estimating what this guy will do.
Greg from LI  
bc4life : 7/21/2014 10:47 am : link
Starter or not, I think he'll thrive in this offense. He doesn't need to start anyway - look how valuable a guy like Sproles was.
excellent news!!  
mfsd : 7/21/2014 10:52 am : link
between Jennings in FA and Williams in the draft, he doesn't have to go into the season expecting to carry the full load

Look forward to seeing McAdoo use him...I can see Jennings and Wilson both in the game, with Wilson motioning wide...giving us 2 RBs who can move and catch the ball

Now, Wilson needs to make sure he holds onto it too...obviously
Wilson sucked the last two years  
djm : 7/21/2014 10:56 am : link
But he can certainly develop the necessary traits to become a great back. He has the talents that can't be taught. Maybe this is his year to bust out. Tiki did in year 3. That was the 1999 season and by the end of that year tiki was an electric player out of the back field. He had close to 70 receptions. Everyone points to the 2000 season as tiki's breakout but really it was 99 where the light bulb seemed to flick on for him.
good point mfsd  
area junc : 7/21/2014 10:57 am : link
part of the criticism w/gilbride was not finding creative ways to get his playmakers the ball. perhaps mcadoo will get wilson and trindon holliday the ball like darren sproles and percy harvin are used
If he goes on to make a Reggie Bush/Darren Sproles type impact...  
Big Blue Blogger : 7/21/2014 11:00 am : link
...Wilson will be well worth the #32 pick. The Giants have Jennings and Williams to bang heads with defensive tackles.

At the same stage of his career in 1999, Tiki Barber entered camp a year older than Wilson, a third-down back recovering from a bad case of the drops, fifth on the RB depth chart behind Gary Brown, Joe Montgomery, LeShon Johnson and Sean Bennett. David Wilson just turned 23. There are older rookies all over the NFL. (Our own Devon Kennard is just nine days younger.) I think it's a little early to make judgments.
100 of those 358 yards came against what was quite possibly  
Greg from LI : 7/21/2014 11:00 am : link
the worst defense in NFL history, the 2012 Saints.

In any case, if you want to wave 2012 as some kind of banner, be my guest. He had a couple of good games against that horrific Saints defense and the waving-the-white-flag Eagles. Yay.

He's a great return man, yes. That has absolutely nothing to do with his play at running back.
Or what djm said.  
Big Blue Blogger : 7/21/2014 11:00 am : link
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Love the picture of Diehl celebrating  
The Turk : 7/21/2014 11:03 am : link
with the thumbs all bandaged up
there's nothing cooler than waving the flag on a guy  
UConn4523 : 7/21/2014 11:05 am : link
with 6 starts and barely 100 career carries. No chance he can get better...
he'll improve if McAdoo uses him where his abilities lie  
Greg from LI : 7/21/2014 11:08 am : link
As a Sproles type, rather than where he's miscast as an everydown, between the tackles runner.
RE: he'll improve if McAdoo uses him where his abilities lie  
mitch300 : 7/21/2014 11:20 am : link
In comment 11774499 Greg from LI said:
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As a Sproles type, rather than where he's miscast as an everydown, between the tackles runner.

Exactly, maybe the screen pass can be used more in this offense.
Awsome!  
ZogZerg : 7/21/2014 11:25 am : link
Explosiveness for the Offense.
Great news.

Deepest group of RBs we've had since I can remember.
RE: Wilson sucked the last two years  
Randy in CT : 7/21/2014 11:26 am : link
In comment 11774465 djm said:
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But he can certainly develop the necessary traits to become a great back. He has the talents that can't be taught. Maybe this is his year to bust out. Tiki did in year 3. That was the 1999 season and by the end of that year tiki was an electric player out of the back field. He had close to 70 receptions. Everyone points to the 2000 season as tiki's breakout but really it was 99 where the light bulb seemed to flick on for him.
So, I disagree with the observation quite a bit and wonder what you were watching.
RE: Awsome!  
Greg from LI : 7/21/2014 11:31 am : link
In comment 11774551 ZogZerg said:
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Explosiveness for the Offense.
Great news.

Deepest group of RBs we've had since I can remember.


Guess your memory sucks, since 5 years ago we had Jacobs, Ward and Bradshaw. Right now we have a decent free agent, a guy with a fused spine who's accomplished virtually nothing in two NFL seasons, and a 4th round draft pick.
RE: he'll improve if McAdoo uses him where his abilities lie  
speedywheels : 7/21/2014 11:39 am : link
In comment 11774499 Greg from LI said:
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rather than where he's miscast as an everydown, between the tackles runner.


Pretty sure NO ONE ever thought he would be that type of back.
Greg  
ZogZerg : 7/21/2014 11:40 am : link
Ward was a JAG. Bradshaw and Jacobs were very good, but they weren't nearly as versatile as the group we have now.

My memory does suck, but you are being way to negative about the possibilities of our RBs.

WIlson  
stretch234 : 7/21/2014 11:44 am : link
Only 11 times in the last 5 years has a RB even avg 20 carries per game. Arian Foster had 358 as a high - slightly over 22.

2008 had 2 guys over 22 (Peterson & Turner. 2007 had Portis leading with only 325

Just get him used creatively and good things can happen
Great news for David Wilson and Giants!  
Jimmy Googs : 7/21/2014 12:00 pm : link
Now hold onto the goddamn ball and pick up your man in pass protection and we'll all get along just fine...




Giants should go  
OldPolack : 7/21/2014 12:14 pm : link
back in history and use him ala Meggett.
Only on second or third downs.
...  
SamTheTram : 7/21/2014 12:27 pm : link
Until his blocking improves keep him out of 3rd downs
RE: he'll improve if McAdoo uses him where his abilities lie  
muhajir : 7/21/2014 12:35 pm : link
In comment 11774499 Greg from LI said:
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As a Sproles type, rather than where he's miscast as an everydown, between the tackles runner.

Greg why don't you think he can be a between the tackles runner?
because he thinks he's Barry Sanders  
Greg from LI : 7/21/2014 12:37 pm : link
If the hole isn't really there and he's looking at a 2-3 yard carry, he'll start reversing field and end up losing yardage. And since his field vision sucks, he can't find a crease when the hole isn't there as drawn up.
Hope he can stay healthy  
Jan in DC : 7/21/2014 12:38 pm : link
and become a dependable member of the offense. We need all the talented players we can get.
That's nice and all  
NYDCBlue : 7/21/2014 12:38 pm : link
I'm much more concerned about Beatty though. Anyone heard anything about Beatty? Is he going to ready for the start of Training Camp?
at this point  
santacruzom : 7/21/2014 12:41 pm : link
I think it's a leap of faith to project an above-average RB career for Wilson, and I don't mean just because of the injury.
I'm reading the same things about Wilson  
PeterS : 7/21/2014 12:45 pm : link
that were written here in the C.F. years and years ago about one Tiki Barber.
anyone who thinks this group of RBs...  
BillKo : 7/21/2014 12:46 pm : link
is better than BJ, AB, and Ward.....you're just not watching.

I think Jennings is a nice back, but both Wilson and our draft pick from BC are huge question marks.

I don't see Wilson being strong enough to be a between the tackles runner consistently. They are going to have to pick their spots with him.

And I'm with Greg on Wilson, they only thing he's shown is the ability to acclerate through a wide open hole, not block, and not hold onto the football.
RE: because he thinks he's Barry Sanders  
mrvax : 7/21/2014 12:49 pm : link
In comment 11774716 Greg from LI said:
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If the hole isn't really there and he's looking at a 2-3 yard carry, he'll start reversing field and end up losing yardage.


Actually this is exactly what Barry Sanders did. Loss, no gain, loss, 20+ gain, etc.
RE: I'm reading the same things about Wilson  
santacruzom : 7/21/2014 12:49 pm : link
In comment 11774734 PeterS said:
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that were written here in the C.F. years and years ago about one Tiki Barber.


Sure, but you're also probably reading the same things about him that were written about guys who remained average or below for their entire careers.
RE: anyone who thinks this group of RBs...  
arcarsenal : 7/21/2014 12:50 pm : link
In comment 11774737 BillKo said:
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is better than BJ, AB, and Ward.....you're just not watching.

I think Jennings is a nice back, but both Wilson and our draft pick from BC are huge question marks.

I don't see Wilson being strong enough to be a between the tackles runner consistently. They are going to have to pick their spots with him.

And I'm with Greg on Wilson, they only thing he's shown is the ability to acclerate through a wide open hole, not block, and not hold onto the football.


His issues between the tackles have nothing to do with his strength. He's built like a truck and he's a very strong dude.
How can you make judgments on Jennings and Williams  
Exit 172 : 7/21/2014 12:55 pm : link
when they haven't played a game in a Giants uniform yet? You can't say they'll be great, and you can't say they'll stink. You just don't know yet.

And Ward and Bradshaw were both 7th-round picks who made the most of their skill sets when they just happened to play behind a terrific Giants o-line. If this rebuilt Giants o-line becomes a good one, Jennings and Williams will have a much better chance at being productive, obviously. And that's just another "if".
Can't believe the cynicism  
jLefty : 7/21/2014 1:05 pm : link
Here we have the most talented, speedy back with the most potential in a long time and because the o-line was pathetic and Gilbride's offense was unimaginative, people play the crusty hard bitten veteran scout. In his short career he's gotten off better runs than anyone we've had recently. Obviously I believe he will be great. A cautionary note: hope he's really ready to go full bore.
I wouldn't say....  
BillKo : 7/21/2014 1:07 pm : link
he's built like a truck. He's 5-9, 205.

Jennings may be built more like a truck, at 231.

I hope he does great, I'm just saying from what I seen he looks more of a situational guy to me, which is fine. You needs guys like that on winning teams.
And the OL did suck.....  
BillKo : 7/21/2014 1:08 pm : link
that didn't have anything to do with fumbling and whiffing on blocks............

This is the year Wilson either makes it in blue, or doesn't.
A Rocky Thompson comparison from Deadkurt.  
Crispino : 7/21/2014 1:10 pm : link
Fucking brilliant.
new offense  
Bradshaw #44 : 7/21/2014 1:25 pm : link
clean slate for everyone. Lets go Gmen.
Nobody will be successful running if we don't block.  
RDJR : 7/21/2014 1:30 pm : link
That is the biggest question mark. The OL.
RE: I wouldn't say....  
arcarsenal : 7/21/2014 1:34 pm : link
In comment 11774784 BillKo said:
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he's built like a truck. He's 5-9, 205.

Jennings may be built more like a truck, at 231.

I hope he does great, I'm just saying from what I seen he looks more of a situational guy to me, which is fine. You needs guys like that on winning teams.


Height and weight really have nothing to do with it. The guy is a fitness freak and he's pure muscle. The idea that his strength is an issue just isn't true. He doesn't go down easily and sometimes even to a fault.. he's had the ball stripped from him while about 5 defensive players were trying to wrestle him to the ground because he wouldn't go down.
RE: Can't believe the cynicism  
vibe4giants : 7/21/2014 1:41 pm : link
In comment 11774781 jLefty said:
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Fair enough. But your handle suggests you've been overly optimistic before.
I guess I'm with the minority on this one  
gersh : 7/21/2014 2:05 pm : link
But Wilson has elite talent and I expect him to be a huge contributor for us this year (if he's OK physically)
not every guy with elite athleticism is an elite back  
Greg from LI : 7/21/2014 2:11 pm : link
All I'm saying is that he has a lot to prove.
I would not call this the deepest group in years by any means  
Some Fan : 7/21/2014 2:20 pm : link
but could agree with calling it a big guestion-mark.
Marshall is running the wrong way  
ghost718 : 7/21/2014 2:22 pm : link
Pocket Rocket with the block that frees him up
wilson wont be blocking  
SBlue46 : 7/21/2014 2:33 pm : link
We have 2 fbs and 3 big rbs. ...he willl be catching screens
and takin it to th house
Such a strange season coming up.  
Mike in Long Beach : 7/21/2014 3:01 pm : link
I have absolutely no idea what to make of this team.
Great, great news!  
Simms11 : 7/21/2014 3:03 pm : link
he could be a real weapon in this WCO. I think the Giants have their Sproles now, as well.
The guy has skills  
TMS : 7/21/2014 3:25 pm : link
but lacks technique and know how in other areas. Not ready for a featured RB role by any standard right now. Hopefully he can be developed, but he has been here two years already and has had zero production for a 1st round pick.
actually...  
BillKo : 7/21/2014 3:29 pm : link
Height and weight really have a lot to do with how much pounding you can take inside.

Yeah, he's looked strong, with about how many carries?

Let's see the guy play 16 games, get into the rotation, and see how he does.

It's been a small sample size, with lots of room for improvement.
and I think he's pretty strong dude....  
BillKo : 7/21/2014 3:31 pm : link
absorbing hits by DL's and LB's can be an entirely other issue........
To those who say don't judge him because of bad blocking  
NYDCBlue : 7/21/2014 3:44 pm : link
He still displayed pretty poor vision on kick returns also. He seems to just like running into the backs of his team mates (and then falling down).
Poor vision on kick returns?  
lono801 : 7/21/2014 4:18 pm : link
Huh... I must have been watching a different player in '12...

Didn't he set a Giants record with 1,500+ return yards that year?
RE: To those who say don't judge him because of bad blocking  
Randy in CT : 7/21/2014 4:29 pm : link
In comment 11775156 NYDCBlue said:
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He still displayed pretty poor vision on kick returns also. He seems to just like running into the backs of his team mates (and then falling down).
I didn't see this at all. And he was damned good at returning kicks.
RE: actually...  
arcarsenal : 7/21/2014 4:36 pm : link
In comment 11775121 BillKo said:
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Height and weight really have a lot to do with how much pounding you can take inside.

Yeah, he's looked strong, with about how many carries?

Let's see the guy play 16 games, get into the rotation, and see how he does.

It's been a small sample size, with lots of room for improvement.


Eh.. 5'8" Maurice Jones-Drew disagrees. He led the league with 343 carries just 2 seasons ago and averaged 100 yards a game. He's nearing 2,000 career attempts.

Wilson's build and ability to absorb contact isn't something I'd be concerned about. His blitz pickups and general football I.Q. are.

And to the guy who said he had poor vision on KR's and was constantly running into the backs of his own players.. wow. Just.. yeah. No.
arc -  
Exit 172 : 7/21/2014 5:04 pm : link
Ya gotta wonder what some Giants fans are looking at when a game is in progress.
Arc nailed it  
Jay on the Island : 7/21/2014 5:07 pm : link
Wilson's height is irrelevant. He is built very well and will continue to add muscle throughout his career. I honestly was not counting on Wilson to play this season but now with his clearance and the addition of Jennings and Andre Williams the running game should finish in the top 10 this season.
Oh, look at you!  
I'mRonBurgandy? : 7/21/2014 5:24 pm : link
You're a sweet little pocket rocket. What fun!

stays healthy he is a top five back  
grizz299 : 7/21/2014 5:30 pm : link
Run inside and out, block sufficiently. Only heard JR huff about one back - the kid who Buff got.
. Pugh,Prince, JPP, the safety? JR doesn't take a rb early unless he's special. I hear a kid who is an animal...wants it bad. I see marvelous talent and power.
. Tellin' ya guys this team has a chance to be very special.
I don't see the Sproules comparison, at all ...  
Manny in CA : 7/21/2014 6:01 pm : link
I see him being more like Lesean McCoy or Tiki Barber ….

Wilson 5'9", 205

McCoy - 5'11, 208

Barber - 5'10", 205

Sproules (a hard to find bug at 5'6", 190)

Wilson is a hard-running, tackle-breaking, between-the-tackles demon. Watch his Virginia Tech highlights ….

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1bO123KOEM
Here is Wilson's 2012 highlight reel. I wonder what Giant fans  
fredgbrown : 7/21/2014 6:09 pm : link
were looking at when they say he had no vision returning kicks.
2012 Highlights - ( New Window )
Wilson I believe was the second team all pro KO returner yet  
fredgbrown : 7/21/2014 6:14 pm : link
he had no vision.
RE: To those who say don't judge him because of bad blocking  
phillygiant : 7/21/2014 6:30 pm : link
In comment 11775156 NYDCBlue said:
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He still displayed pretty poor vision on kick returns also. He seems to just like running into the backs of his team mates (and then falling down).


Do you actually watch the games?
There is some very seriously misguided opinions  
LI NHB : 7/21/2014 7:43 pm : link
happening in this thread right now. Saying Wilson "sucked the past 2 years" is a grossly incorrect statement. He was an extremely helpful complementary player his first year in the league from a ST perspective and showed flashes during preseason. His athleticism and balance were far and away better than anything we had on the team since a younger, spry Tiki.

Last year, he played in a few games before he got hurt. Games amidst a 0-6 start that saw our offensive line do their best interpretation of swiss cheese. He tries to stop and reverse fields and gets tackled for a loss? YES, where guys are making their first point of contact 4 yards deep behind the LOS that tends to happen.

Jennings is a bonafide starting NFL running back and showed that last season in place of Darren McFadden. Wilson was the unquestioned starter last season (for a reason) and has a chance to be used in a way that will complement his abilities. Williams is an unknown, but looks to be a smart and hungry young guy.

Best scenario ….  
Manny in CA : 7/21/2014 7:56 pm : link
O-line (all of it) has outstanding year ….

(Fill-in-the-name) pounds & softens the defense (like Jacobs used to do for Bradhaw); Wilson comes in for "Shock & Awe" time.
Wilson had problems with the playbook and he had two years  
Doomster : 7/21/2014 8:57 pm : link
to study it....now he has a new one....

I'm not sold on the neck until he takes some shots.....

He has to hold onto the ball and he has to learn to protect Eli.....
Bad vision? Poor instincts? Bad football player?  
gersh : 7/23/2014 7:57 am : link
The Giants studied every snap the guy took in college and thought he was worth their first pick.
Anyone saying he sucks, please watch the 2012 highlight reel that fredgbrown linked.

Now, to be fair, he clearly hasn't lived up to expectations.
My opinion is that he came in cocky, had trouble picking up aspects of the playbook (blitz pick-up especially) and then had ball security issues that made him very unpopular with TC and really hurt his confidence.

As much as any position in football, RB is all about ability. Wilson has it in spades. IMO, he just needs to get to the point where he just plays instead of thinks. He's a smart kid - it should be by now.

A final thought (guess). Wilson had a neck issue so bad, it required fusion to repair. It is common for such injuries (herniations) to cause arm/hand weakness. That could have contributed to his fumbling problem.
RE: Wilson had problems with the playbook and he had two years  
UConn4523 : 7/23/2014 8:15 am : link
In comment 11775507 Doomster said:
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to study it....now he has a new one....

I'm not sold on the neck until he takes some shots.....

He has to hold onto the ball and he has to learn to protect Eli.....


If fully healed his neck should be stronger than yours or mine. I was always worried about him coming back too soon resulting in injury. As long as the fuse is beyond the 100% point, further injury risk is the same as anyone without that injury.
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