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Boomer Esiason Ranks Eli Manning 'At the Bottom' of NFL QB's

Vin R : 8/28/2014 3:51 pm
"He looks extremely uncomfortable in this offense."
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When you've lost Boomer Esiason...  
Klaatu : 8/28/2014 3:53 pm : link
You've lost middle America. Heavy sigh.
Well Boomer knows best  
Maximus, Esq. : 8/28/2014 3:53 pm : link
I guess it's on to 2015 now since this season is fucked.
He sure looks uncomfortable for sure.  
BeerFridge : 8/28/2014 3:53 pm : link
It may start out rough.
Thanks for sharing Vin  
Giantology : 8/28/2014 3:53 pm : link
It's certainly a surprise to see Boomer Esiason be so down on Eli Manning and the Giants! I almost never hear of him having a negative opinion of us
not  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/28/2014 3:54 pm : link
saying he is right or wrong, but this guy has had a major problem with Eli from the get-go.
Guess Boomer decided his name hasn't been mentioned in long enough.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/28/2014 3:54 pm : link
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Yeah just like  
BIG FRED : 8/28/2014 3:57 pm : link
last year boomer when you predicted Scott Tolzin would lead the packers to victory over the giants ..Iam so sick of this guy ...
Hey, can't we  
Bill in UT : 8/28/2014 3:58 pm : link
stop the negativity on game day?
Boomers is always negative when it comes to Eli  
Vin R : 8/28/2014 3:58 pm : link
Almost seems a bit obsessive
RE: not  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/28/2014 3:58 pm : link
In comment 11829764 Eric from BBI said:
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saying he is right or wrong, but this guy has had a major problem with Eli from the get-go.


He's somewhat two-faced about it. He defends Eli on his radio show when he's doing well, or against his co-host, but when things go poorly he's the first one to fire up the negative press.
He's had....  
Wonderphil11 : 8/28/2014 3:58 pm : link
a problem with Eli, as I suspect many others have, since the whole SD draft thing, then there was the dopey looks, then there was the "lucky" championships....admittedly Eli doesn't help himself with his ints and gunslinger ways but the whole Eli narrative is beyond old and tired at this point.
Boomer hates Eli  
Maximus, Esq. : 8/28/2014 3:59 pm : link
As Eric said. Not sure if it's a contrarian ratings grab being in a NY market, jealousy or both. Most likely both.
RE: not  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 8/28/2014 4:01 pm : link
In comment 11829764 Eric from BBI said:
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saying he is right or wrong, but this guy has had a major problem with Eli from the get-go.


He's become a real shit just like his partner. He goes after Eli constantly for not wanting to play in San Diego but he slobs over Peyton who ducked the Jets.

That show is unlistenable, and he's becoming more and more terrible.
well  
djm : 8/28/2014 4:03 pm : link
based on last year Eli was bad. But QBs are funny...they tend to play well when things are stable and play like shit when things aren't so stable. There are exceptions..some QBs can mask stinky teams better than others can. It's really hard to fairly judge any QB but I know that when Eli has a running game, he wins 10 games or more just about every year. 2012 they were on their way to 10 wins or more until Andre Brown went down. 2006 was really the only year they failed to win despite having the running game. 2009 the running game sucked.

Boomer can go fuck himself and Carton can donkey punch him.
This has been an ongoing shtick since 2004...  
okiegiant : 8/28/2014 4:06 pm : link
and I doubt it will ever change.

For such a successful and likable young man he sure catches a lot of crap.
he DID preface everything by saying  
mattlawson : 8/28/2014 4:06 pm : link
he respects his career, acknowledges he has not won a SB, Eli has -- but .... does not like the way he looks in this offense.

so its not total disrespect for those that want to sling shit.
I remember him...  
Ryan : 8/28/2014 4:07 pm : link
....being very critical of Gilbride and his offense in the early years and hanging a lot at his feet. I never found him to be overly negative toward Eli (or gettign caught in the upswings either).

After the '11 and the 2nd Superbowl, when people began talking about Eli now having possible HOF chances if he had another 4-5 strong years, he decided to undergo a mind-meld with Craig Carton with his on-air persona and jumped firmly to that side. You know he's the type that's very bitter about his chances of making the HOF being essentially over so his view on any other QB that suddenly finds himself on that same fence will be negative. I think Kurt Warner is the same way and in the same group.
Even if you stipulate that he hates Eli...  
BeerFridge : 8/28/2014 4:08 pm : link
The fact is that
-Eli looks really uncomfortable.
-The Giants did not extend his contract to make cap room when many thought they might.
-Eli had 27 INTs last year.

It's not a stretch to think that Eli is cooked. I don't think that, but it's not necessarily something only an Eli Hater might think.
Anyone remember  
mrvax : 8/28/2014 4:13 pm : link
Boomer's last appearance on MNF? He was so stupid. He was arguing with Al Michaels over when a timeout should be used and Boomer was so damn wrong.

Turned out that Michaels was able to prove his point by what happened in the final minutes of the game. That was the last time they allowed Boomer on MNF.
RE: not  
Arcanum : 8/28/2014 4:15 pm : link
In comment 11829764 Eric from BBI said:
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saying he is right or wrong, but this guy has had a major problem with Eli from the get-go.


Pretty much.
If someone says something about the giants  
dontboobigblue : 8/28/2014 4:18 pm : link
they must be haters or have an agenda.

-BBI Wimps
He's a phony, two faced dooshbag.  
Victor in CT : 8/28/2014 4:19 pm : link
Phony as they come.
RE: If someone says something about the giants  
okiegiant : 8/28/2014 4:22 pm : link
In comment 11829825 dontboobigblue said:
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they must be haters or have an agenda.

-BBI Wimps


Oh bull...don't generalize when you're trying to make a point.

I swear there are posters on this site who think you're a homer if you so much as think something said negatively about the team may be wrong.

Of course, some of these same posters are much more than willing to make lots of loud noises and agree the Giants suck and always will.

Boomer  
Bleedin Blue : 8/28/2014 4:27 pm : link
Has stated on. Any occasions that he can't believe Eli got the contract he got!. He has started that if he was playing what he would be worth. He's just jealous and this coming from a former NFLPA leader. He has to work 8 jobs to make half of what Eli makes! He should put his Jet jersey back on, he's green with envy!
If you watch  
pjcas18 : 8/28/2014 4:28 pm : link
the video, Boomer is absolutely right.

as is Chris Simms.

However, it starts with the O-line.

I've said this before, Eli is a rhythm QB, when he gets in a rhythm he's as good as anyone.

Simms was more critical than Boomer.
RE: Even if you stipulate that he hates Eli...  
AcidTest : 8/28/2014 4:29 pm : link
In comment 11829816 BeerFridge said:
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The fact is that
-Eli looks really uncomfortable.
-The Giants did not extend his contract to make cap room when many thought they might.
-Eli had 27 INTs last year.

It's not a stretch to think that Eli is cooked. I don't think that, but it's not necessarily something only an Eli Hater might think.


Agree. We need to see how the OL plays, but it's certainly possible. I do also agree that Boomer has been overtly critical of Eli for years.

Season can't start soon enough.
no  
kepler20 : 8/28/2014 4:30 pm : link
2013 and 2012 Eli pretty much deserve to be in the bottom half of QBs. People think 2011 was yesterday.
2012 stat line....  
okiegiant : 8/28/2014 4:47 pm : link
3948 yds 26 TD's and 15 picks. Rating(grain of salt the rating system sucks)87.2.

2013 sucked...we have yet to play 2014. One horrible year since his last Super Bowl title. Lets maybe let it play out a bit before we kick him to the curb.

RE: well  
Riggies : 8/28/2014 4:47 pm : link
In comment 11829799 djm said:
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based on last year Eli was bad. But QBs are funny...they tend to play well when things are stable and play like shit when things aren't so stable. There are exceptions..some QBs can mask stinky teams better than others can. It's really hard to fairly judge any QB but I know that when Eli has a running game, he wins 10 games or more just about every year. 2012 they were on their way to 10 wins or more until Andre Brown went down. 2006 was really the only year they failed to win despite having the running game. 2009 the running game sucked.

Boomer can go fuck himself and Carton can donkey punch him.

Boomer is terrible, but while it's your intention, you really aren't defending Eli by going on about how he's always needed a run game to lean on.

It's not the 80s anymore. Good QBs, if they're actually good, can survive a lack of a rushing attack just fine. If Eli can't (he's shown he can), that's an indictment of him.
Boomer had the yips in Cincy  
Phil in LA : 8/28/2014 4:48 pm : link
and cried like a baby when they drafted Klingler and not an OL.
The sick part is  
Giantcol22 : 8/28/2014 4:48 pm : link
HE does nothing but defend Eli when that moron Carton tries to tarnish how two super bowls. People are just weird.
boomer is old school  
kepler20 : 8/28/2014 4:55 pm : link
I would bet he's just angry that Eli forced his way to NY like a diva would. Boomer is old school in that he thinks Eli should've sucked it up and be successful in SD without cherry picking his team.

That's what I thinkhe resentment comes from. And when Eli is up for the HOF, don't think for one second that the whole NYG/SD debate won't have an impact.
Go easy on Norman, guys.  
bceagle05 : 8/28/2014 4:56 pm : link
The Bengals, Jets and Cardinals have been the biggest laughingstocks in football over the past 50 years, and he was the face of all three.
RE: boomer is old school  
arcarsenal : 8/28/2014 4:59 pm : link
In comment 11829877 kepler20 said:
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I would bet he's just angry that Eli forced his way to NY like a diva would. Boomer is old school in that he thinks Eli should've sucked it up and be successful in SD without cherry picking his team.

That's what I thinkhe resentment comes from. And when Eli is up for the HOF, don't think for one second that the whole NYG/SD debate won't have an impact.


Boomer was probably your childhood idol, wasn't he Jets fan?
RE: RE: boomer is old school  
kepler20 : 8/28/2014 5:00 pm : link
In comment 11829884 arcarsenal said:
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In comment 11829877 kepler20 said:


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I would bet he's just angry that Eli forced his way to NY like a diva would. Boomer is old school in that he thinks Eli should've sucked it up and be successful in SD without cherry picking his team.

That's what I thinkhe resentment comes from. And when Eli is up for the HOF, don't think for one second that the whole NYG/SD debate won't have an impact.



Boomer was probably your childhood idol, wasn't he Jets fan?


1998 NFL MVP :)
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arcarsenal : 8/28/2014 5:02 pm : link
Heh. I figured.
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arcarsenal : 8/28/2014 5:03 pm : link
That was 88, though. Not 98. You should know that.
What is worse?  
ANGPASS : 8/28/2014 5:03 pm : link
Listening to Boomer and annoying carton or greeny? Hate that those are my options in the morning.
RE: .  
kepler20 : 8/28/2014 5:04 pm : link
In comment 11829891 arcarsenal said:
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That was 88, though. Not 98. You should know that.


On my phone.
RE: What is worse?  
kepler20 : 8/28/2014 5:05 pm : link
In comment 11829892 ANGPASS said:
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Listening to Boomer and annoying carton or greeny? Hate that those are my options in the morning.


Carton is hilarious. I listen for the first hour and that's usually good enough. I dont like the rest of the show usually.
Fuck Boomer  
jmac13 : 8/28/2014 5:07 pm : link
He's just jealous of Eli. Boomer was overrated. He had his chance in a Super Bowl and lost.
Eli - 2  
rebel yell : 8/28/2014 5:12 pm : link
Boomer - 0
RE: RE: not  
River Mike : 8/28/2014 5:12 pm : link
In comment 11829778 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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In comment 11829764 Eric from BBI said:


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saying he is right or wrong, but this guy has had a major problem with Eli from the get-go.



He's somewhat two-faced about it. He defends Eli on his radio show when he's doing well, or against his co-host, but when things go poorly he's the first one to fire up the negative press.


I'm sorry, but it sounds like you just said that he praises him when he does well and criticizes him when he does bad ...Hmmm. That pig headed one track mind bastard!
Boomer was lucky if he could  
jmac13 : 8/28/2014 5:16 pm : link
throw the ball 50 yards in the air at the end of his career,
He's a douchebag.
How good is Eli?  
Ira : 8/28/2014 5:27 pm : link
When he's good, he's very good. When he's bad, he's very bad. Which Eli will show up this season? My guess is that he's a work in progress over the season. He starts to improve after a few bad games and finishes the season in one of his unbeatable funks. Remember, you read it here.
Eli does not look good in this offense?  
Doomster : 8/28/2014 5:28 pm : link
Well, based on roughly 4 quarters, he hasn't....having a DLman in his face, a lot of times, could be a factor...no TE....no #1 receiver.....guess that doesn't count....
I'd like to see how Eli  
jmac13 : 8/28/2014 5:42 pm : link
does when he has the whole playbook to use.

I have to believe we haven't seen the entire offense so far.
jmac  
dontboobigblue : 8/28/2014 5:50 pm : link
when Boomer Esiason last stepped on the field in the superbowl his team had the lead.
RE: jmac  
jmac13 : 8/28/2014 5:53 pm : link
In comment 11829940 dontboobigblue said:
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when Boomer Esiason last stepped on the field in the superbowl his team had the lead.


I didn't realize that was the criteria we judge QB's with.
I thought it was whether they win or lose Super Bowls
I was never an Eli supporter at first  
Sec 103 : 8/28/2014 6:03 pm : link
but 2 SB Championships and his cool demeanor have grown on me.
Boomer is just a big headed asswipe who can put his opinions where they count most, up Craig's ass...
Frustrated JEST QB who closed a decent career on the wrong side of the ledger.
I just looked up Boomer SB stats  
jmac13 : 8/28/2014 6:05 pm : link
Boomer Esiason 11/25 144 0 1

Great game.
RE: I just looked up Boomer SB stats  
shabu : 8/28/2014 6:06 pm : link
In comment 11829953 jmac13 said:
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Boomer Esiason 11/25 144 0 1

Great game.


LOL
RE: RE: jmac  
River Mike : 8/28/2014 6:09 pm : link
In comment 11829944 jmac13 said:
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In comment 11829940 dontboobigblue said:


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when Boomer Esiason last stepped on the field in the superbowl his team had the lead.



I didn't realize that was the criteria we judge QB's with.
I thought it was whether they win or lose Super Bowls


Of course, that's why Trent Dilfer and Doug Williams are obviously better than Dan Marino and Archie Manning
River Mike  
jmac13 : 8/28/2014 6:14 pm : link
We're talking about someone who's never won a super bowl consistently criticizing someone who's won two.
Boomer played well in his superbowl  
WideRight : 8/28/2014 6:25 pm : link
His obsession with Eli goes way beyond that.

He prefaces his comments with platitudes just so he can put more zingers in there. As others have said, there's no rational reason. Its boring.
RE: River Mike  
River Mike : 8/28/2014 6:29 pm : link
In comment 11829965 jmac13 said:
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We're talking about someone who's never won a super bowl consistently criticizing someone who's won two.


I get your point, but Boomer is in the media doing his job and giving his opinion. I don't believe it has anything to do with whether he has won a Super Bowl or whether he even played football.
River Mike  
jmac13 : 8/28/2014 6:33 pm : link
I don't think Boomer is like the regular media. He's a former NFL QB who seems to enjoy criticizing Eli. You are correct that I can't know his motives.
RE: River Mike  
River Mike : 8/28/2014 6:50 pm : link
In comment 11829990 jmac13 said:
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I don't think Boomer is like the regular media. He's a former NFL QB who seems to enjoy criticizing Eli. You are correct that I can't know his motives.


Fair enough
Eli didn't look comfortable in  
bradshaw44 : 8/28/2014 6:58 pm : link
Gilbrides offense right away either. How bout we give him some time to acclimate, boomer. Sheesh
He isn't always negative on Eli  
gmen1234 : 8/28/2014 7:10 pm : link
I have heard him many times on the show giving Eli praise and acknowledging him as a two-time Super Bowl MVP.
Well Eli  
liteamorn : 8/28/2014 7:36 pm : link
HASN'T looked comfortable in this NEW offense, except for the 2 minute drill during this PRESEASON.
Boomer is just saying  
Sandman96R : 8/28/2014 9:12 pm : link
what everyone is thinking. When you have two QBs playing against the same defense and one performs while the other doesn't .. doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the writing on the wall.
Beason  
Servo : 8/28/2014 9:48 pm : link
to come of the PUP list as expected when the roster is cut to 53, according to WFAN.
Bah  
Servo : 8/28/2014 9:51 pm : link
wrong thread. Sorry.
ring count ??  
Blue Blood : 8/28/2014 10:09 pm : link
Eli-2

Boomer-0

nuff said
Boomer is jealous of Eli because Boomer played in Cincy  
Rich Houston-NYG-WR-1971 : 8/29/2014 7:41 am : link
and Eli gets to play in NY. Boomer had a lot of talent wasted in cincy and his popularity would have been 10 fold if he played in ny
My impression  
Mike fr Warwick : 8/29/2014 7:45 am : link
Booker experience as a Jet was not what he expected or wanted.He expected to be a saviour win and restore respect and bring championships.

What he got was losing criticism and worst of all second citizen status. TOUGH for an athlete to take. Rather than blame the Jets or accept his failure he felt the Giant unfairly received too much credit and became jealous.

I base this on his comments as a Jet player commentator radio hits.

Boomerr  
Mike fr Warwick : 8/29/2014 7:46 am : link
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Another comforting comment from a source  
gidiefor : Mod : 8/29/2014 7:56 am : link
that always has it wrong
Boomer Esiason  
cjac : 8/29/2014 9:19 am : link
is a twat

He however is correct about Eli looking uncomfortable
This morning the line re: McAdoo's offense was  
RonJohnson : 9/2/2014 3:07 pm : link
In Green Bay he had Aaron Rodgers

now he has Mr. Rodgers
This morning the line re: McAdoo's offense was  
RonJohnson : 9/2/2014 3:08 pm : link
In Green Bay he had Aaron Rodgers

now he has Mr. Rodgers
.  
arcarsenal : 9/2/2014 3:18 pm : link
Norman and his friend Cartman got a good laugh that Eli called himself "elite" a few years back. Guess they forgot about how that year went.
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