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Courtland finnegan covering obj in the slot

ron mexico : 12/19/2015 10:06 am
Paul dottino was on wfan saying that when obj lines up in the slot, he might be covered by Finnigan recently came out of retirement. Obviously Finnigan is no match physically at this point but it'll be interesting to see all the extracurricular activity between the two.

I'm sure a lot will disagree with me, but the way OBJ played his rookie year reminded me of Finnegan with the cheap shots and trying to get in his opponents head. He has pretty much cut that out of his game, but I wonder if it will resurface tomorrow? Should be fun to watch.
Really?  
Hammer : 12/19/2015 10:10 am : link
Finnegan is a world-class douche-bag. OBJ is not. So much for that comparison.
Ha  
ron mexico : 12/19/2015 10:23 am : link
Like I said, I don't expect it to be a popular or widely accepted opinion, but if you didn't notice any chippyness in obj's game last year you weren't paying attention.
RE: Ha  
Strip-Sack : 12/19/2015 10:30 am : link
In comment 12695429 ron mexico said:
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Like I said, I don't expect it to be a popular or widely accepted opinion, but if you didn't notice any chippyness in obj's game last year you weren't paying attention.


Um, no...OBJ may talk trash and his histrionics might have been over the top at times which rubbed opponents the wrong way but to compare that to a notorious cheap shot asshole like Finnegan is way off the mark to say the least.
There is a difference between being chippy...  
okiegiant : 12/19/2015 10:30 am : link
and being a douche nozzle...Finnegan fits the latter.
I think we guaranteed on PF out of Courtney.  
Boy Cord : 12/19/2015 10:40 am : link
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I didn't mean this to put down OBJ in any way  
ron mexico : 12/19/2015 10:47 am : link
but he is prone to mixing it up with opponents.

Sometimes he is the instigator and sometimes he is reacting the other guy.

CF made up for physical limitations by getting in WR's heads. Hopefully OBJ can win the mental battle because the physical battle will be no contest.
Getting in someone's head is very different  
Neckbone1333 : 12/19/2015 10:56 am : link
Than taking someone's off illegally
Always funny when people mistake trying to get into  
RC02XX : 12/19/2015 11:06 am : link
Your opponents head as something cheap.
If this is true, I would worry  
Matt M. : 12/19/2015 11:09 am : link
about OBJ picking up a penalty when he gets too frustrated. He has been close to a penalty a number of times this year for retaliating to physical play after the whistle.
It's apples to oranges...  
Strip-Sack : 12/19/2015 11:14 am : link
A WR doesn't instigate physicality, a CB does....a WR reacts to a jam on the line with physicality to counter. I think you're referring to the Buffalo game where OBJ let the head hunting get to him and eventually took a swing at someone during the interception....this could happen with Finnegan, no doubt and hopefully he's learned not to let the cheap shots to the head, etc get to him but, to imply that OBJ is out there "instigating" is wrong.
Instigating probably isn't the best word to describe some of his  
ron mexico : 12/19/2015 11:21 am : link
actions last year. Baiting is probably a better word.

But like I said, that seems to be in the past.Hopefully he can keep his head tomorrow.
OBJ is a trash taller and is full of bravado  
Larry in Pencilvania : 12/19/2015 11:48 am : link
but he backs it up with his play. he will retaliate when the opponent gets physical with him and that shows his immaturity.

Finnegan is one of the dirtiest players of the last ten years. his game has been to physically and mentally work his opponent, especially when that opponent is physically superior to him. he's made a successful career with his style of play.


that
that said he's  
Larry in Pencilvania : 12/19/2015 11:48 am : link
a douche bag
RE: Really?  
Vanzetti : 12/19/2015 12:00 pm : link
In comment 12695423 Hammer said:
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Finnegan is a world-class douche-bag. OBJ is not. So much for that comparison.


a lot of players and fans of other teams think OBJ is a bit of a douche. we don't, but they do
I can't remember an instance of Beckham  
BSIMatt : 12/19/2015 12:03 pm : link
landing a cheap shot on an opposing defensive player. That isn't me believing that your opinion is unpopular, it is me believing there is no evidence supporting your claim.

Beckham reminds me more of Shockey or Steve Smith, very fiery, fiesty, they wear their emotions on their sleeve and it shows after a big play. I don't believe that is calculated or planned, I think it's an intense emotional response. The end zone dances are planned, but I would consider that to be a player having fun celebrating and much less about getting into an opponents head, especially since it's occurs at the end of the drive after all the work has been done.

I think there are some similarities as a player like Finnegan is intense, competitive and fiery, but the concept of being chippy, and getting into the head of a player I think is really a strategy employed by defensive players, and not offensive players. Same tactic is used by defenders in basketball(think of the old Knicks and Pistons teams in their attempt to defend Jordan).



RE: I can't remember an instance of Beckham  
USAF NYG Fan : 12/19/2015 12:24 pm : link
In comment 12695526 BSIMatt said:
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landing a cheap shot on an opposing defensive player. That isn't me believing that your opinion is unpopular, it is me believing there is no evidence supporting your claim.

To be fair, Beckham has thrown a punch and gone after guys after the play is dead. That is a fact. However, Beckham is not remotely close to the A-Hole that Finnegan is.

OBJ is quickly maturing but getting into someone's head is what Finnegan does. OBJ does need to be smart enough to keep his head. It's not a ridiculous question/concern by any means. I agree OBJ is an emotional player and it's part of what makes him so great. He's got to keep his head though. I DO NOT see this as a concern throughout his career. OBJ has been a lot better as of late already.
Finnegan  
Moondawg : 12/19/2015 12:31 pm : link
is the NFL's Bill Lambeer.
by my comparison I didn't mean to imply the two were equals  
ron mexico : 12/19/2015 12:33 pm : link
Just that last year OBJ tried to get in the head of players, much like how CF made a career for himself. I'm not making that up, thats a direct quote from him. Now did he go the levels of cheap shots that CF did? Not even close.

Early on it worked to his advantage but it quickly stopped working and eventually started working against him. He has since seemed to eliminate it from his game.

The point of this thread is that I would expect CF to try to rile OBJ up tomorrow (if they are matched up) as there is no way he can hang with him physically. Hopefully OBJ doesn't take the bait and all the PF flags are on CAR.
RE: Really?  
EricJ : 12/19/2015 1:03 pm : link
In comment 12695423 Hammer said:
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Finnegan is a world-class douche-bag. OBJ is not. So much for that comparison.


BUT OBJ is always willing to retaliate. He lets guys get into his head a bit.
I think  
dorgan : 12/19/2015 1:34 pm : link
the bigger concern is OBJ retaliating to a cheap shot and getting penalized or worse.

Finnegan is a piece of shit, but he is good at irritating the living hell out of an opponent.

I'm sure this has been addressed with OBJ. Let's hope he heeds the warning.
RE: If this is true, I would worry  
NYDCBlue : 12/19/2015 1:46 pm : link
In comment 12695475 Matt M. said:
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about OBJ picking up a penalty when he gets too frustrated. He has been close to a penalty a number of times this year for retaliating to physical play after the whistle.


Exactly. O[DB|BJ] plays with great emotion, which allows him to make mind blowing plays. The downside is when you play that way it tends to shut the brain down in a binary fashion. In a fight, it is often the second player who throws the punch that gets penalized/ejected.
I pray the Panthers  
Big Rick in FL : 12/19/2015 2:28 pm : link
match Finnegan up with Odell. That would be the best thing we could possibly ask for. Unless the Oline got completely dominated all day (Definitely possible) it would be a complete bloodbath for Finnegan.

I'd line him up early & often in the slot to see what match up he's gonna get. If it is Finnegan I'd keep him there all day or until Carolina makes a switch.
Would not count  
TMS : 12/19/2015 4:23 pm : link
on any of that stuff. OBJ will be taken away this game for sure. We have to make them pay for doing it. A real challenge for McAdoo and Coughlin to pull this off. Carolina is due for a bad game that may include turnovers. Spags has that job. They are cocky so anything could happen. Lets hope it does. Hope the Giant fans bring it tomorrow big time. We need that 12th man.
Finnegan has no chance keeping up with OBJ on medium/long  
Jimmy Googs : 12/19/2015 5:35 pm : link
routes, so Eli needs to look for LB/Safety blitzes in many instances where Finnegan is in an obvious 1 on 1 matchup as Carolina will assume they will get to Eli before OBJ breaks free.

In those instances, we can go max protect and try to get OBJ deep, or Eli needs to make that blitzer miss and take advantage of the weakest zone/spot on the field.

Courtland on OBJ (versus Josh Norman) is too see how far the refs will let it play out before calling PFs. You know Carolina will still mirror OBJ with a Safety in these defenses.

Odell  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 12/20/2015 3:14 am : link
Putting on a shoe A week behind = lol it's over.

I hope he shows everyone what/who he is
a lot of overly homerific/definsive poor reading comp  
chris r : 12/20/2015 3:56 am : link
the op didn't say they are the same - just noted similarities. And yes it will be interesting to see how OBJ responds to an even feistier guy.
Bump  
chris r : 12/20/2015 5:07 pm : link
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