Nailed last year's pick a month in advance when nobody considered Flowers anywhere near Top 10. Will try to do the same again. This is a little more conventional. Still have a few weeks to alter my pick after collecting more information. This is subject to change, but for now ... it's Florida CB Vernon Hargreaves.
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You see him as more of a strong side (LE) end?
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Would be very happy with VH.
You see him as more of a strong side (LE) end?
Perhaps, but he is a two-way force at times.
Haha. Yeah, that really is pathetic on my part.
However, draft held today I can see Hargreaves as a good choice.
Problem is I have a hard time believing that in this pass first league 9 teams will pass on the best cover corner in the draft.
He is fast and can cover well.
But he does not jam at the line, does not tackle well, and avoids contact if he sees that another defender could get there.
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A) Hargreaves III would bet the BPA
B) We need a nickel back
C) You can never have enough cover corners
D) Who knows what will happen next year with DRC and Prince
E) Prince isn't exactly durable
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I only think this makes sense if Prince is lost in free agency.
A) Hargreaves III would bet the BPA
B) We need a nickel back
C) You can never have enough cover corners
D) Who knows what will happen next year with DRC and Prince
E) Prince isn't exactly durable
Additionally, NYG didn't hesitate to draft Amukamara when they already had Webster and Thomas. (Thomas was entering a contract year, but they were hoping to extend him until his preseason injury.)
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I only think this makes sense if Prince is lost in free agency.
A) Hargreaves III would bet the BPA
B) We need a nickel back
C) You can never have enough cover corners
D) Who knows what will happen next year with DRC and Prince
E) Prince isn't exactly durable
Actually:
A. You can never have enough pass rushers.
He's a tough, hard nosed kid.
He's the best Cornerback in this draft ahead of Alexander and Ramsey (who is a safety really).
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In comment 12836435 njm said:
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I only think this makes sense if Prince is lost in free agency.
A) Hargreaves III would bet the BPA
B) We need a nickel back
C) You can never have enough cover corners
D) Who knows what will happen next year with DRC and Prince
E) Prince isn't exactly durable
Actually:
A. You can never have enough pass rushers.
It's both
He is fast and can cover well.
But he does not jam at the line, does not tackle well, and avoids contact if he sees that another defender could get there. Vernon Hargreaves not impressive in these clips - ( New Window )
Agree with the negatives. Looks flat out terrible on the tape.
Every year fans get hard-ons b/c of how someone does in the combine when they should be looking at game tape.
Say what? His hair style is different? (Thinks of Obj..) We have to draft this kid!!
Every year fans get hard-ons b/c of how someone does in the combine when they should be looking at game tape.
so you base you assessment off the one game you saw...
ok... nothing to see here..
If so, I say no and look at Lawson, Rankins or Stanley
Plus, I really think Ogbah is the guy. Big OL bastard with great athleticism and length. Reminds me a ton of JPP. Makes even more sense if we bring in Williams and resign JPP. Have a rotation of MW, JPP, OO and Kerry Wynn with Hankins, Bromley, Cullen Jenkins and a 2nd/3rd rounder DT and that's a pretty nice D line rotation. Provided we don't get fisted by injuries.
I could live with Hargreaves, but I'd rather make a push for Sean Smith rather than resign Prince.
Plus, I really think Ogbah is the guy. Big OL bastard with great athleticism and length. Reminds me a ton of JPP. Makes even more sense if we bring in Williams and resign JPP. Have a rotation of MW, JPP, OO and Kerry Wynn with Hankins, Bromley, Cullen Jenkins and a 2nd/3rd rounder DT and that's a pretty nice D line rotation. Provided we don't get fisted by injuries.
I could live with Hargreaves, but I'd rather make a push for Sean Smith rather than resign Prince.
Would be a very good pick imo.
This kid's a football player. As per his game tape. Get a clue!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qq_CMeQ-de8