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Ftr, they won a division title with Kanell under center.

and I'm not sure if it speaks to how poor the division was at that time, but to think that we could win 10 games + the division with such anemic QB play, a solid run game (Way was leading rusher with <700yd, IIRC), and a very good - but not great - defense is pretty wild, to me.

We had a legitimately outstanding pass rush, though. That was literally it.

if we didnt shit the bed vs Minnesota I think we would have had a shot in Green bay the next week too

One of the best offensive fullbacks I've seen in the NFL. Too bad injuries cut his career short.

54 sacks, allowed only 10 TD passes the entire season, picked off 27 INTs and recovered 29 fumbles.

Michael Strahan, Jessie Armstead and Jason Sehorn really played near All-Pro levels that season.

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945 yards in 1997.
1000+ 1998.

In comment 12987945 widmerseyebrow said:

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945 yards in 1997. 1000+ 1998.

Just realized Brown wasn't on our team until 1998. Minor detail.

Hometown guy, Giants fan - gets his dream, drafted in the first round as a QB, gets an OL that couldn't block a wet paper towel, and between his own lack of talent and what was around him, promptly proceeds to shit the bed and his futility ends up being his legacy.

Granted, he got paid a ton of money, but he didn't fail for lack of effort.

1978 Giants - Pisarcik, Goldsteyn, Dean
I mean could you come up with a worse trio?

is the first guy I remember being referred to as a "game manager". This was before it became a pejorative. Fassel threw that term out there a lot in '97.

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Sorry

1. the meltdown v. Minny
2. the Gus Frerrotte head butt in the 7-7 tie game

In comment 12987961 PatersonPlank said:

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1978 Giants - Pisarcik, Goldsteyn, Dean I mean could you come up with a worse trio?

Yes, this gets my vote.

and that one game where Tommy Maddox played and was banished.

It was the 2nd year or so camp was in Albany. Brown just couldn't hit the side of a barn, and DK had the worst arm I've ever seen in camp.

Funny thing was, the best QB in Albany at that time was playing for the Arena team, the Albany Firebirds. And he wasn't the best QB in the Arena League, that was Kurt Warner (then playing for the Iowa Barnstormers). I do wonder how history would have turned for the team if they ever did give Kurt a tryout then.

Same thing with a WR, David Patton, who couldn't crack that Albany Arena team starting lineup. He actually made the Giants team, and helped contribute.

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It was the 2nd year or so camp was in Albany. Brown just couldn't hit the side of a barn, and DK had the worst arm I've ever seen in camp. Funny thing was, the best QB in Albany at that time was playing for the Arena team, the Albany Firebirds. And he wasn't the best QB in the Arena League, that was Kurt Warner (then playing for the Iowa Barnstormers). I do wonder how history would have turned for the team if they ever did give Kurt a tryout then. Same thing with a WR, David Patton, who couldn't crack that Albany Arena team starting lineup. He actually made the Giants team, and helped contribute.

I never realized this, very interesting, thanks for pointing it out!

it's dumb to put any team on that list that won 10 football games and made the playoffs, but wow..

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The Giants QBs produced just 16 scoring strikes, while completing 52.5 of their passes. Kanell, who took over for Brown after Week 6, kept the bar nice and low by averaging 108.8 pass yards per game.

That is remarkably putrid. I know we had a good defense, but how the hell do you win 10 games with those QB numbers. Didn't realize it was that bad.

That automatically puts them in the top 20% of Giants seasons in the SuperBowl era.

Picked off a lot of passes that year, too - 27. Sehorn picked 6, Sparks and Wooten 5, Ellsworth 4.

Getting a true franchise QB is absolutely huge for any team. If they were wrong about Eli, it would have been bad of course and the downside then included backing a bad QB and the cost of the trade.

But man, the Dave Brown, Danny Kanell, Tommy Maddox dark ages... I do not look forward to Eli's eventual retirement. Odds are, we'll just be another one of those teams looking for their next franchise QB and they are not easy to find.

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it's dumb to put any team on that list that won 10 football games and made the playoffs, but wow.. Quote: The Giants QBs produced just 16 scoring strikes, while completing 52.5 of their passes. Kanell, who took over for Brown after Week 6, kept the bar nice and low by averaging 108.8 pass yards per game. That is remarkably putrid. I know we had a good defense, but how the hell do you win 10 games with those QB numbers. Didn't realize it was that bad.

Mike, not a good defense but that 1997 defense was a GREAT defense that carried that team to 10 wins. If the offense was even league average, we could have gone a long way that year.

Strahan, Armstead, and Sehorn were all sensational that year. Harris and the Hammer were very good at DT. Corey Widmer was a solid plugger-type MLB. The secondary was one of the best I've ever seen on the Giants - Sehorn was a superstar that year, Sparks was tough. Tito Wooten looked like a future Pro Bowler. Sam Garnes could lay the lumber in run support, and Percy Ellsworth was a real ballhawk.

Throw it deep and get a penalty to move the chains.