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NFT: THC and Cancer

xman : 12/16/2016 8:54 pm
This should be my 3rd and last report on the topic. I earlier had reported my cat was near death with the brain tumor. Blind, bumping into walls ,peeing on the floor and sitting in it. Nothing good going on. At times she was in pain and had seisures.

I started the THC and CBD treatment October 20th. Not much early success. Increased the dose and changed the delivery method over the next 2 weeks . Her seisures stopped. I guess you could say she was holding on.

On November 14 I really upped the dose and quickly saw results. Within a day she purred and talked to me. Then a day later she stood on her rear legs to pee and poop. Started using the litter box again .Soon she began jumping up on the bed.

I continued these massive dosses for 2 plus weeks. I went through 1/2 gram every 2 1/2 days. The only hurrdle left was for her to eat and drink on her own. That happened on the 10 th of December. She has been on her own since then. Better then ever. She no longer sneezed; is more affectionate then ever and is doing great. Lets hope it holds up

So besides beeing lucky and happy I want other pet owners to seriously consider this option in treating cancer. Don't expect many vets to be familiar with this treatment but in my case it seems to be a God send. My Vet is blown away

The book on this treatment
says 2 grams over 15 days. I likely did 6+ grams over 7 weeks. Cats and dogs metabolize this stuff much quicker then people so it works faster.


I remember your first thread  
steve in ky : 12/16/2016 9:01 pm : link
Really amazing
What delivery method are you using?  
Diver_Down : 12/16/2016 9:18 pm : link
I remember your other threads, but I don't recall the specific method.

I find this correlation between THC and Cancer intriguing, and am happy for you that the result has been positive.
First week or so I placed a touch of oils  
xman : 12/16/2016 10:48 pm : link
(thc and cbd oils) on a piece of dry cat food and added a top piece of dry food to make it a sandwitch and then shoved it down her throat 3 times a day. As the dose grew it became too much for the kibble so I scraped it on the roof of her mouth. But that caused a lot of drooling and probable dehydration.

Finally it dawned on me to empty a gelatin vitamin cap and fill it with the oils. Thats when the real progress came as I was easily able to give larger doses 3 times a day. But with the larger doses came dehydration or cotton mouth so IV's were needed to hydrate her on a daily basis.
Have you halted the treatment  
Diver_Down : 12/17/2016 6:34 am : link
regiment or will you continue on a lower dose maintenance schedule?
That is remarkable  
joeinpa : 12/17/2016 7:58 am : link
Wow
This is great news hearing about natural cures like this  
EricJ : 12/17/2016 8:14 am : link
but I do have a question... how much do these treatments cost you?

This next question may not sound serious but it is. Can you just do bong hits and blow the smoke into the cat's face giving her a contact high?
we used CBDs with my dog  
Justlurking : 12/17/2016 9:26 am : link
He had hemangiosarcoma. We did not use THC. It helped his appetite but ultimately his cancer was far too aggressive. We also tried I'm Yunity which has been proven effective in clinical studies. Unfortunately, nothing worked.

I am glad to hear success stories. Hopefully, we will be able to take these successes and have some legitimate alternatives and documented treatments soon. Good luck OP.
This is a very interesting  
mrvax : 12/17/2016 9:54 am : link
non-football topic. Gotta wonder how or if this correlates with humans.

Keep posting! Good luck.
DEA just named CBD oil a schedule 1 narcotic  
DinDC : 12/17/2016 9:54 am : link
seems reasonable lol

clueless
RE: DEA just named CBD oil a schedule 1 narcotic  
mrvax : 12/17/2016 10:16 am : link
In comment 13270916 DinDC said:
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seems reasonable lol

clueless


Man, I like to think of myself as a reasonable person. Now, I don't indulge myself any more with cannabis but I really hope these dinosaurs die off.

They have to get with, yes, the 20th century!
Dumb bastards.
A couple of things  
xman : 12/17/2016 8:33 pm : link
I don't know what to do now as far as maintenance. Maybe once or twice a month? I'll keep an eye on her

Next, I doubt you can bong blow the smoke into the cat in lieu of oil for a few reasons. The amount you would need to blow would be crazy. I think that one ounce of reefer equates to 3 grams of THC oil( don't hold me to exact). Smoke is not good for the lungs nor would the cat be happy getting it near the eyes.

THC seems to work by cutting off or interferring with the tumors ability to produce some kind of emzyme that it needs to make new cancer sells. Kind of the same way science does it with flea pills. The chemicals in flea pills interfere with the fleas ability to make the protein needed for their skeleton . So since the cancer cannot make the necessary emzyme to produce new cells it ends up eating the cells it has and kills itself. Something like that

Yes supposedly it works on humans. Absolutely they say. Skin cancer, prostrate cancer and brain tumor . I think it works on many many types but I was only concerned with my situation AND was willing to use Boomer as a guinea pig to see if this treatment could be effective for others someday.

My cat did go through some pain to get to the light at the end of the tunnel.It sickened me to see her put both her paws to her ears and press on her head as if she had a migrane all the while contorting her body . I did believe there was going to be a light at the tunnel's end so I was intent on letting her suffer for a short period if it meant success.

One night I took the dose I gave her and the room spun. I was nauseous and for a long long time. Everyone will handle it differently but I don't think its fun dosing yourself with THC. But if it kicks cancers ass you do it.

I've read enough stories on BBI with loved ones losing family members so I do hope this will open eyes and at least be an option.

RE: A couple of things  
Milton : 12/17/2016 9:10 pm : link
In comment 13271373 xman said:
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THC seems to work by cutting off or interferring with the tumors ability to produce some kind of emzyme that it needs to make new cancer sells.
As I understand it, it doesn't interfere with the production of the enzyme in the cancer cell, but instead facilitates it. The good news is that it is an enzyme which kills the cell hosting it.

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The National Cancer Institute (NCI), one of the federal government sponsored agencies, has just updated the FAQs on its website to include recent studies on marijuana showing that it can and has killed cancer cells.

These are the findings of studies NCI have included:

Cannabinoids may inhibit tumor growth by causing cell death, blocking cell growth, and blocking the development of blood vessels needed by tumors to grow. Laboratory and animal studies have shown that cannabinoids may be able to kill cancer cells while protecting normal cells.
Cannabinoids may protect against inflammation of the colon and may have potential in reducing the risk of colon cancer, and possibly in its treatment.
A laboratory study of delta -9-THC in hepatocellular carcinoma (liver cancer) cells showed it damaged or killed the cancer cells. The same study of delta-9-THC in models of liver cancer showed that it had anti-tumor effects. Delta-9-THC has been shown to cause these effects by acting on molecules that may also be found in non-small cell lung cancer cells and breast cancer cells.
A laboratory study of cannabidiol (CBD) in estrogen receptor positive and estrogen receptor negative breast cancer cells showed that it caused cancer cell death while having little effect on normal breast cells. Studies of metastatic breast cancer showed that cannabinoids may lessen the growth, number, and spread of tumors.
A laboratory study of cannabidiol in human glioma cells showed that when given along with chemotherapy, CBD may make chemotherapy more effective and increase cancer cell death without harming normal cells. Studies showed that CBD together with delta-9-THC may make chemotherapy such as temozolomide more effective.
These studies are considered by the NCI as preclinical. They were all done using animals. According to them, no clinical trials of cannabis use for the treatment of cancer in humans have been published.

The way it works is that the cannabinoids bind with receptors in our cells and if it is an unhealthy cell (cancerous) it tells the cell to produce an enzyme from our immune system that then destroys the cell. So if it's a healthy cell, the enzyme isn't produced, but if it's tumorous, it does. Simply put, marijuana is like a Santa's little helper to our immune system.

p.s.--And it's also a natural anti-inflammatory, which is what makes it useful in treating and preventing a bunch of other ailments.
Here's how it works - ( New Window )
I hope they figure out a way to isolate  
short lease : 12/17/2016 9:58 pm : link
whatever it is in Cannabis that is good for fighting disease - if that is possible. I don't like the high. But, the drug seems promising.
Cost  
xman : 12/17/2016 10:59 pm : link
THC oil is 55$ per gram as is CBD oil
Unless you plan to discontinue treatment entirely  
BlackLight : 12/18/2016 12:31 am : link
I'd love to keep hearing periodic updates. If only because I'm curious as to the shelf-life of your critter's recovery. Fingers crossed, but if the treatment becomes less effective as time goes on and your cat's earlier symptoms return, that's just as much worth knowing as it is knowing that weeds cures cancer.

Thanks again.
Here's the best explanation....  
Milton : 12/18/2016 5:08 am : link
...for how it works on cancer cells.
how cannabinoids cause cancer cells to die - ( New Window )
Very interesting. I missed the first posts on this  
buford : 12/18/2016 7:12 am : link
what kind of cancer does your cat have?

Bless you for doing this for your kitty.
Thanks for the update  
jpennyva : 12/18/2016 8:16 pm : link
I am so glad for you and your kitty that this worked out and I have found this series very interesting. Thank you.
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