Why did Jim Fassel never get another chance?

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In comment 13304156 Ron Johnson 30 said:

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In comment 13304098 SomeFan said: Quote: like to hire people who had previously worked for the GMen. He felt he knew them but he was stupid here as he didn't really know Fassel - see off field antics. The other reason he hired Fassel was to fix the unfixable and that was Dave Brown. Brown was a nice kid but a bad NFL QB and not NFL starter quality and not a guy that would ever sniff the SB. He was considered by many to be the next Bill Walsh. He was in demand and could waited for several jobs. I also think the way he treated Sean Payton hurt him. It worked short term but he lost some credibility. Strahan rebelling while he was at his Mom's funeral was a black mark. The chips speech was a low point in NFL history.

Who the fuck considered Fassel to be the next Bill Walsh? That must have been marketing specialists. You could not understand Fassel at his press conferences. He was inarticulate. He was not short or using coach-speak with the press; he was inarticulate. To boot, it seemed to me that the team had no direction under him. When he left, it was addition by subtraction.

good time management. I fondly recall that his challenges were often losers and inexplicably timed.

Be sure to note which ones have a job.

"motivational" speech at a business function once where he was the "big name" speaker. Boooooooooooooooorrriiiiing. It was a Fixed Income conference, he kept saying how similar "selling stocks" was to motivating players. Completely inane.

Use that stuff about him getting a lot out of what he had, he is a huge part of why we had what we had though. Bottom line is that Fassel was a mediocre head coach. We had three brutal playoff losses under him, and we had 1 great one. But the losses to Minnesota, San Francisco, with open arguing and almost fist fighting between players going on during the game, and that brutal Super Bowl performance really define his tenure/

Don't approve of his off-field behavior (the Maras didn't either)

Going into the Super Bowl) even after having crushed the Vikings in the NFC Championship game, I knew they didn't have a chance in you-know where ....

The BBI delusional blamed him for the butt kicking; the truth is they ran into one of the best two or three dest defenses in the history of the NFL (just like the '85 Patriots ran into the '85 Bears).

Then along comes Drillmaster Tom; he was going to fix everything - Wrong.
Remember, even Eric, here, was volunteering to pack Tom's bags (when all of a sudden Tom re-adjusted his attitude and both Strahan [and even Tiki] saved his job, speaking to the Maras)

I remember when Jim was fired, he didn't go whimpering out the back door. He asked to stay and finished the season, his severely injured and out-manned team played their hearts out for him.

Never will understand the hate for him, never.

In comment 13304190 Racer said:

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..was a lot like Bill Callahan's with Oakland against Tampa Bay. You don't reduce the opportunities to do what you do well simply because it's 'the big game'. The players just aren't going to buy in, and in both cases, the players were really pissed off. Amani Toomer or Rich Gannon were both pretty vocal on Sirius in the last couple of years on the subject.

I see your point, but Callahan was too lazy to change the terminology, and he was facing his former boss! I'm surprised he ever got another job in the NFL, no less a HC gig! Fassell's team was underprepared, but it didn't help that Kerry Collins looked like he was being chased by Michael Myers (although, to be fair, he was being chased by Ray Lewis!).

In comment 13304211 Les in TO said:

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if every coach or player who ever had some fun on a party boat or cheated on their spouse was blackballed from the league, there wouldn't be enough players to form 32 teams.

That's a good point. When you think about it, Doug Pederson probably isn't a HC if he hadn't screwed around with KC employees!

He was lazy and didn't do his job. From what I understand (based on this article) he hasn't spoken to Billick since.


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I think people forget how bad the giants were in the 90's. Fassel help most Giant fans forget about Kent Graham and Dave Brown. For all of his faults, he turned Kerry Collins into a Superbowl QB, the giants were in or fighting for the playoffs most of his tenure, he also had to deal with Shockey, Barber, and Strahan. Don't get me wrong, he is also responsible for some of the most heartbreaking losses in Giants history... Giants vs SF 2002, and SB, but atleast he got us to those games.

In comment 13304474 upstatenyg said:

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I really haven't heard this before.

Cocaine & under age hookers is something you usually associate L.T with.

In comment 13304609 Victor in CT said:

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"motivational" speech at a business function once where he was the "big name" speaker. Boooooooooooooooorrriiiiing. It was a Fixed Income conference, he kept saying how similar "selling stocks" was to motivating players. Completely inane.

Aren't stocks not considered fixed income? Or is that your point?

In comment 13304176 arcarsenal said:

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That was pretty much it.

What did happen on the party boat?

as Giants head coach can't be called anything other than successful.

the facility & EA was appalled? I could have sworn I read/heard that somewhere.

In comment 13304026 Big Blue '56 said:

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might be able to fill you in on that..😜

Jim Fassel will never be a HC in the NFL again!

In comment 13305922 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:

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the facility & EA was appalled? I could have sworn I read/heard that somewhere.

The ring couldn't have been more appalling than Ernie's hairpiece.