So, I have never neen a very big Manziel fan. I always thought he didnt have the stuff to be a leader and I thought he came off as a punk. Never had I any desire to have him join the Giants. However, given that he has a career to attempt to revive, our need for a competent back up along with our lack of a desire to draft one this year and eith Eli in the last 3-5 years of his career, the Giants could have that back up and popotentially Eli's replacement (especially if he only plays 3 more years) on the roster when he leaves.
Sitting on a train and looking at the photo with him and Beckham I was reminded of Kerry Collins and his issues with booze and how the Giants gave him another chance which he turned into a pretty good career. One could make the argument that Kerry's problems exceeded what Manziel has dealt with. Kerry Collins had quite a bit more convincing to do as he had kinda been labeled a racist(yes, I know that many thought that his comments were taken out of context) by a lot of players. In addition to convincing Giants brass that he had put his drinking days behind him, he had a lot of teammates that he had to win over as well.
Say what you want about Manziel, the guy has guts and it shows in how he plays. He has the tools to be a game changer similar to Russell Wilson. He has an arm in addition to being highly mobile, but prefers to look downfield before having to run. He is the type of back up who would be a real problem if Eli went down. You game plan for a pocket passer who will go down before taking a big hit all week and then you have to deal with one who is a threat to not only run, but pick up chunks with his legs.
Another thing is Eli is someone who apparently had to have had at least a modicum of respect for as he was brought as an instuctor for the Manning passing academy. If Manziel is truly refocused, he would have a familiar face with a track record of success as a mentor who can be a fountain of knowledge for him to access whenever he pleases. The Giants have a reputation for being a great organization to be involved with and have more of a leadership structure on the team than they had the last two years.
Manziel as a back up to Eli at the right price might be exactly what he might need to become relevant again. If his recovery is anywhere near what Collins was when he joined the Giants, this team might not have to suffer a hangover after Eli after all. The carrot for Manziel is he would have the inside track on the job after Eli. Id even be willing to pay a little higher than his worth to ensure he is re-committed to his career. And if Eli's play continues to decline, he would be a more viable and interesting successor to Eli than a series of Dave Browns, Kent Grahams and Mike Cherrys. Im not completely sold on the idea, but I wouldnt be opposed the the Giants rolling the dice on this one.This with the assumption JPP gets locked up on a new deal.
He is just too good to be true....
Manziel is none of those things. There is no reason to believe that he can stay in professional shape, and even if he did, there is no reason to believe that he could replicate Collins's success.
He didnt last long in the league because of his off-field bullshit. And I agree, that's reason enough not to bring him in here.
But dont act as if the guy never had any NFL talent to begin with - Manziel had a couple of decent games as a pro, and Cleveland gave him about 15 chances to clean himself up before cutting him.
Huh? I think your definition of a "look-at-me thread is off. Plus you can always choose to not click on it you little cunt.
For the rest of you, obviously this thread didnt materialize into anything resembling a good discussion. But I am not in any way trying hint that its a move I want the Giants to make. Of course I would assume that some kind of ongoing treatment for him would be a requirement to his getting the deal. I just think the story, if he did walk the straight and narrow and got himself back into consideration for another starting gig would be an interwsting one after the success with KC.
But yes, its a lot more fun to read thread after thread bitching about the linemen we didnt sign or why Hankins hasnt re-signed yet and to call me drunk for considering this.
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Huh? I think your definition of a "look-at-me thread is off. Plus you can always choose to not click on it you little cunt.
For the rest of you, obviously this thread didnt materialize into anything resembling a good discussion. But I am not in any way trying hint that its a move I want the Giants to make. Of course I would assume that some kind of ongoing treatment for him would be a requirement to his getting the deal. I just think the story, if he did walk the straight and narrow and got himself back into consideration for another starting gig would be an interwsting one after the success with KC.
But yes, its a lot more fun to read thread after thread bitching about the linemen we didnt sign or why Hankins hasnt re-signed yet and to call me drunk for considering this.
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