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The case for bringing on Johnny Manziel as a back up

chopperhatch : 3/16/2017 10:00 pm
So, I have never neen a very big Manziel fan. I always thought he didnt have the stuff to be a leader and I thought he came off as a punk. Never had I any desire to have him join the Giants. However, given that he has a career to attempt to revive, our need for a competent back up along with our lack of a desire to draft one this year and eith Eli in the last 3-5 years of his career, the Giants could have that back up and popotentially Eli's replacement (especially if he only plays 3 more years) on the roster when he leaves.

Sitting on a train and looking at the photo with him and Beckham I was reminded of Kerry Collins and his issues with booze and how the Giants gave him another chance which he turned into a pretty good career. One could make the argument that Kerry's problems exceeded what Manziel has dealt with. Kerry Collins had quite a bit more convincing to do as he had kinda been labeled a racist(yes, I know that many thought that his comments were taken out of context) by a lot of players. In addition to convincing Giants brass that he had put his drinking days behind him, he had a lot of teammates that he had to win over as well.

Say what you want about Manziel, the guy has guts and it shows in how he plays. He has the tools to be a game changer similar to Russell Wilson. He has an arm in addition to being highly mobile, but prefers to look downfield before having to run. He is the type of back up who would be a real problem if Eli went down. You game plan for a pocket passer who will go down before taking a big hit all week and then you have to deal with one who is a threat to not only run, but pick up chunks with his legs.

Another thing is Eli is someone who apparently had to have had at least a modicum of respect for as he was brought as an instuctor for the Manning passing academy. If Manziel is truly refocused, he would have a familiar face with a track record of success as a mentor who can be a fountain of knowledge for him to access whenever he pleases. The Giants have a reputation for being a great organization to be involved with and have more of a leadership structure on the team than they had the last two years.

Manziel as a back up to Eli at the right price might be exactly what he might need to become relevant again. If his recovery is anywhere near what Collins was when he joined the Giants, this team might not have to suffer a hangover after Eli after all. The carrot for Manziel is he would have the inside track on the job after Eli. Id even be willing to pay a little higher than his worth to ensure he is re-committed to his career. And if Eli's play continues to decline, he would be a more viable and interesting successor to Eli than a series of Dave Browns, Kent Grahams and Mike Cherrys. Im not completely sold on the idea, but I wouldnt be opposed the the Giants rolling the dice on this one.This with the assumption JPP gets locked up on a new deal.
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chopper  
Beezer : 3/17/2017 10:12 am : link
must be messing with us. Gotta be.
While reading this original post,  
Doomster : 3/17/2017 10:13 am : link
how in the world does this guy not have a job?

He is just too good to be true....
Kerry Collins was a great QB.  
NoPeanutz : 3/17/2017 11:05 am : link
#1 pick. Had already taken his team deep into the playoffs... All a team needed to win with him was for him to keep his act together. Sure enough, he did, and the Giants won consistently with him. When the Giants brought him in, they took a chance on a proven winner.
Manziel is none of those things. There is no reason to believe that he can stay in professional shape, and even if he did, there is no reason to believe that he could replicate Collins's success.
Yeah some people are going a little overboard  
MetsAreBack : 3/17/2017 11:34 am : link
on the 'no talent' stuff

He didnt last long in the league because of his off-field bullshit. And I agree, that's reason enough not to bring him in here.

But dont act as if the guy never had any NFL talent to begin with - Manziel had a couple of decent games as a pro, and Cleveland gave him about 15 chances to clean himself up before cutting him.
An Exhaustive List of Reasons to sign Manziel as Eli's backup  
Bramton1 : 3/17/2017 12:10 pm : link
1. There aren't any.
I'd rather have Scott Brunner  
HoustonGiant : 3/17/2017 12:15 pm : link
at his current age
Well, we are apparently going Geno instead  
MetsAreBack : 3/17/2017 12:20 pm : link
lol.
Jerry Jones wanted to draft him  
jeffusedtobeonwebtv : 3/17/2017 12:50 pm : link
Unfortunately, he was talked out of it, and they drafted Zack Martin instead.
Jerry Jones wanted to draft him  
jeffusedtobeonwebtv : 3/17/2017 12:51 pm : link
Unfortunately, he was talked out of it, and they drafted Zack Martin instead.
Jerry Jones  
RobCrossRiver56 : 3/17/2017 1:35 pm : link
picked a hell of a day to give up drinking
What an annoying, look-at-me thread.  
Mike in Long Beach : 3/17/2017 1:36 pm : link
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He's a talented kid  
David in LA : 3/17/2017 1:39 pm : link
but he's got to earn his way back in the league. Go to the CFL and rebuild your equity.
RE: What an annoying, look-at-me thread.  
chopperhatch : 3/17/2017 5:09 pm : link
In comment 13396814 Mike in Long Beach said:
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Huh? I think your definition of a "look-at-me thread is off. Plus you can always choose to not click on it you little cunt.


For the rest of you, obviously this thread didnt materialize into anything resembling a good discussion. But I am not in any way trying hint that its a move I want the Giants to make. Of course I would assume that some kind of ongoing treatment for him would be a requirement to his getting the deal. I just think the story, if he did walk the straight and narrow and got himself back into consideration for another starting gig would be an interwsting one after the success with KC.

But yes, its a lot more fun to read thread after thread bitching about the linemen we didnt sign or why Hankins hasnt re-signed yet and to call me drunk for considering this.

case closed  
spike : 3/17/2017 5:11 pm : link
Geno and Josh just ended this fascination with Manziel.
The best I'd do for Manziel is bring him to camp  
Ira : 3/18/2017 12:22 pm : link
with a non-guaranteed contract.
RE: RE: What an annoying, look-at-me thread.  
Mike in Long Beach : 3/18/2017 12:27 pm : link
In comment 13397421 chopperhatch said:
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In comment 13396814 Mike in Long Beach said:


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Huh? I think your definition of a "look-at-me thread is off. Plus you can always choose to not click on it you little cunt.


For the rest of you, obviously this thread didnt materialize into anything resembling a good discussion. But I am not in any way trying hint that its a move I want the Giants to make. Of course I would assume that some kind of ongoing treatment for him would be a requirement to his getting the deal. I just think the story, if he did walk the straight and narrow and got himself back into consideration for another starting gig would be an interwsting one after the success with KC.

But yes, its a lot more fun to read thread after thread bitching about the linemen we didnt sign or why Hankins hasnt re-signed yet and to call me drunk for considering this.



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