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NFT: NCAA First Round, Part II - Friday games

Greg from LI : 3/17/2017 12:13 pm
Let's get this party started after the chalkiest first day in many years....

12:15 - #7 Michigan vs. #10 Okie St
12:40 - #3 Baylor vs. #14 New Mexico St
1:30 - #8 Arkansas vs. #9 Seton Hall
2:00 - #3 Oregon vs. #14 Iona
2:45 - #2 Louisville vs. #15 Jacksonville St
3:10 - #6 SMU vs. #11 USC
4:00 - #1 UNC vs. #16 Texas Southern
4:30 - #6 Creighton vs. #11 Rhode Island
6:50 - #1 Kansas vs. #16 UC Davis
7:10 - #7 Dayton vs. #10 Wichita St
7:20 - #2 Duke vs. #15 Troy
7:27 - #6 Cincinnati vs. #11 Kansas St
9:20 - #8 Miami vs. #9 Michigan St
9:20 - #2 Kentucky vs. #15 Northern Kentucky
9:50 - #7 South Carolina vs. #10 Marquette
9:57 - #3 UCLA vs. #14 Kent State
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Now a flagrant 1 call  
SimpleMan : 3/17/2017 3:36 pm : link
Jesus that is a huge call
Ned In Atlanta : 3/17/2017 3:36 pm : link
absurd call in the seton hall game. Great job by the ref to make it about him
He tripped over his own foot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 3/17/2017 3:36 pm : link
How on Earth is that a flagrant?
BS call  
spike : 3/17/2017 3:37 pm : link
. Unbelievable
RE: BS call  
Ned In Atlanta : 3/17/2017 3:37 pm : link
In comment 13397139 spike said:
. Unbelievable

Exactly. Total horse shit
RE: wow  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 3/17/2017 3:38 pm : link
In comment 13397135 Ned In Atlanta said:
absurd call in the seton hall game. Great job by the ref to make it about him

Replay is ruining sports. The refs are now overanalyzing everything - of course it's going to look worse in slow-mo.
Moronic call  
batman11 : 3/17/2017 3:38 pm : link
by those refs. Stupid!
exciting game  
Greg from LI : 3/17/2017 3:39 pm : link
but man, these are a couple of sloppy teams.
I actually  
MookGiants : 3/17/2017 3:39 pm : link
think that flagrant call was correct.

Very shitty timing for it, but I can't blame the refs for actually calling it.

If you shove a guy and he winds up on his back, they're going to call it
I don't think it was a GOOD call  
Greg from LI : 3/17/2017 3:41 pm : link
But it wasn't as bad as some of you are saying, for the reason Mook gave - it was a flop, absolutely, but there WAS a push.
I had $ on Arkansas  
bigbluehoya : 3/17/2017 3:41 pm : link
And I think that was a really tough call. Not the time for that. The trip looked completely unintentional, and that's what made the foul look so hard.
Complete domino effect  
montanagiant : 3/17/2017 3:41 pm : link
Starting with the travel call
I don't care either way,  
batman11 : 3/17/2017 3:41 pm : link
but that was a bullshit call. Idiot refs need to use some judgement there.
he tripped over himself  
MookGiants : 3/17/2017 3:42 pm : link
because he got pushed.

I think they had to call it. It sucked and I generally am 100% against the refs, but i have to agree with them on that one.

You can't just push a guy and him wind up on the floor with no play on the ball and think it's not going to be called a flagrant. Yes, he did trip over himself but that doesnt happen without the push.
We'll surely see worse calls than that  
bigbluehoya : 3/17/2017 3:45 pm : link
In this tournament, but that's one where I think the officials ought to look at the combination of the intent and the situation and let the players decide the game.
That takes me back to the Dave Stallworth thread  
njm : 3/17/2017 3:45 pm : link
Mike Riordan: "Hell, that was a love tap."
Tough loss for my Pirates  
Rick in Dallas : 3/17/2017 3:48 pm : link
They lost because of turnovers but you let the kids play and don't call the flagrant one on that play. He got pushed but he tripped on that play. Refs should let them play on....
IMO, that's coaching  
Greg from LI : 3/17/2017 3:48 pm : link
Teaching players how to foul correctly is an important skill for end of game situations. If he doesn't shove the guy there as opposed to just grabbing an arm, this doesn't happen.
RE: We'll surely see worse calls than that  
batman11 : 3/17/2017 3:51 pm : link
In comment 13397164 bigbluehoya said:
In this tournament, but that's one where I think the officials ought to look at the combination of the intent and the situation and let the players decide the game.

Agree 100%
In non-tourny news  
Greg from LI : 3/17/2017 3:51 pm : link
Rumor is that NCSU's top choice is UNCW coach Kevin Keatts.
The Seton Hall player  
spike : 3/17/2017 3:53 pm : link
should've have bear hugged him.
RE: Tough loss for my Pirates  
MookGiants : 3/17/2017 3:54 pm : link
In comment 13397178 Rick in Dallas said:
They lost because of turnovers but you let the kids play and don't call the flagrant one on that play. He got pushed but he tripped on that play. Refs should let them play on....

He tripped because he got pushed, it's all part of it.
Pitino looks more and more embalmed every day  
Greg from LI : 3/17/2017 3:56 pm : link
Wow I come on a NCAA thread after a tough call  
Stu11 : 3/17/2017 4:18 pm : link
and find Mook praising the officials. Whats next am I going to go on the JPP thread and find GoTerps praising the deal? lol actually good job Mook you called it right. Hands on the back shoving is a flagrant 1, no question. As a ref we laugh when people say "Let the players decide the game" How does letting one player get away with a blatantly illegal act letting the players decide the game?
Holy shit that slam by Ojeleye on SMU was brutal  
montanagiant : 3/17/2017 4:29 pm : link
Definite highlight
Refs ice the smu shooter  
B in ALB : 3/17/2017 5:13 pm : link
This replay stuff is Bullshit.
MookGiants : 3/17/2017 5:15 pm : link
looked lost offensively on their final 2 possessions and the coach somehow keeps 3 timeouts in his pocket
It's crazy how teams in that "First Four" always seem to win.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 3/17/2017 5:16 pm : link
USC had no business being in the tournament and now they have 2 wins under their belt. I know a lot of people that loved SMU.
RE: RE: Nice thread. The 3 stooges participating  
Cruzin : 3/17/2017 5:16 pm : link
In comment 13397031 njm said:
In comment 13396757 Cruzin said:


Metnut, your take on the ND/Princeton game couldn't have been more wrong. Both statements you made, "minor miracle ND won and Princeton took it to them" are completely inaccurate.

ND established control early and never relinquished it. The game was close because we were uncharacteristically missing free throws after being assaulted most of the game. Some of the contact by Princeton may have been criminal offenses.

B's whining that the referees were favoring ND because of the difference in foul totals proves he either didn't watch the game or doesn't know what he's seeing. Both options are equally possible.

You'll need to improve your analysis Nut, although you fit in well with these two amateurs at the moment.

BTW, Zaga would be the weakest 1 seed, not Kansas.

Have a Happy Irish Day!

Let me guess, Notre Dame should have been the 1 seed as opposed to the Zags.
nah, ND should have been a 3 seed and Duke should have gotten the 1 seed over Zaga. ND will knock Zaga out of the tourney though. Lurch, meet Bonzie'
Well, there goes my first S16 team  
Greg from LI : 3/17/2017 5:17 pm : link
SMU screws me again
Also, Kevin Keatts to NC State  
Greg from LI : 3/17/2017 5:24 pm : link
I was 14 of 16 yesterday  
montanagiant : 3/17/2017 6:14 pm : link
18-23 so far today. OK State, SMU, Seton Hall killed me today
Perfect bracket already busted on Yahoo  
montanagiant : 3/17/2017 6:17 pm : link
No one can get one
20/24 today  
Greg from LI : 3/17/2017 6:53 pm : link
Rhode Island came through for me.
I've lost 3 games thus far...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/17/2017 6:59 pm : link
UVM, SMU, & Seton Hall.
Refs taking over  
B in ALB : 3/17/2017 8:45 pm : link
In the duke game.
When don't they?  
Greg from LI : 3/17/2017 9:08 pm : link
Archie Miller is a pip squeek  
B in ALB : 3/17/2017 9:26 pm : link
turd. Perfect fit for Indiana.
Frank Martin with some  
B in ALB : 3/17/2017 10:16 pm : link
serious flair tonight. The UnderArmor pin is just ridiculous.
Cruzin : 3/17/2017 10:43 pm : link

I swear to God, 2 hours in my living room I could make you understand the game.

You're just embarrassing yourself.

I recommend Califorication on DVD to binge watch. Best show ever. Of course, you'd have to be cool to get it. I honestly think you qualify for coolness but don't have access to what is out there. Be Hank.

Stop posting on College BBall threads, your value as a quality poster couldn't be lower.

I mean that in an instructional way. I got St Looie ribs on the grill tomorrow and leftover corned beef. No BBIer ever left my house hungry, including Nads O'Leary.

you could be an insider. Reach out, you have potential. Embrace the old farts, we've seen more than you.
It's a friendly post B  
Cruzin : 3/17/2017 10:59 pm : link

It's St Patty's and I'm watching Mich St with the green borders on the court pad my bank account, been a great day. Too cold for fishing this morning but the ocean was green, Rhode Island is legit and your claim that USC was unworthy was totally destroyed by their second win in the tourney.

Reach out or go away til the NIT starts up again. I honestly believe that Cuse would have beat Va if they had the chance but you didn't qualify for the chance.

Keep it real B. Bond with me on my Mich St windfall.

Heh, heh.
That's a great game by MSU  
B in ALB : 3/17/2017 11:29 pm : link
They're going to be a force next year.

Kent State hanging in.
For some reason  
MetsAreBack : 3/17/2017 11:39 pm : link
It didn't register to me that South Carolina might actually get Duke in South Carolina on Sunday. That would be really fun - hope they hold on here
B in ALB : 3/17/2017 11:41 pm : link
Crazy that SC gets not only a 7, but plays 130 miles from home.

That said, they're playing well and could knock out Duke. I'm ok with that!
Nobody's gonna knock out Dook  
Cruzin : 3/18/2017 12:09 am : link

Until the final 4.

Here's an idea. Since you think you're connected and I'm a loser, I'll give you 2 days to find out who Charlie Yelverton was. That's how far I go back and you are not even in the equation,

I'll help you though and as promised, I'll feed you well.

I can't tell you who Nad's O'Leary was though. If I told you, I'd have to kill you.

Any Fordham fans want to chime in on Charlie?  
Cruzin : 3/18/2017 12:48 am : link

An Icon.

Willie Glass before the sweater.

Note any responses , those of us that lived it will be far more advanced than any newbies.

Newbies being anyone one before 1971.

Yeah, I'm old but trained and connected by the best there ever was. Digger was cool but any coach that played the game respected Bobby Knight as the best. No one has surpassed him since.

The political upheaval has merit but if your kid is a potential hooper with the gumption to put in the work, there was s no price on Bobby. He's the best there ever was and that comes straight from Digger, Frank McLaughlin and Dick Debasio.

I would think ND, Harvard and Stanford would be a mic drop.

Have a nice night.

Finished 25-32 for the first round  
montanagiant : 3/18/2017 12:48 am : link
Rough day after a good start yesterday. Still have all ,my 16, 8 and 4 alive though
How ya feeling B?  
Cruzin : 3/18/2017 1:09 am : link

UNCW, Middle Tennesee and Mich St just funded my summer.

That's Disneyworld for the family plus Roger Waters in Philly for myself with maybe a baseball game before the concert. If I hit ND over WV I can go first class or invite djm and feelflows as my guests. I owe jlukes since he made it possible for my son to attend his first ballgame, so he's first on the list. Sorry D.

Get a clue man. Make some money. I'm done already but I'll give up my source for a price.

Baylor's going down soon, just have to pick the right time, same with Oregon and Zaga.

Was a great day! And to all a good night...
MookGiants : 3/18/2017 1:14 am : link
is right before Duke too. So if UNC wins you will have all of the UNC fans cheering against Duke with the SC fans. Could be fun.
The UNC fans realize that this might be their last hurrah  
Cruzin : 3/18/2017 1:27 am : link

I spoke with a father of a past UNC player today who works at my pharmacy.

Litigation has been stalled longer than should be. UNC will be erased from the archives. Think SMU. Tarheel fans have this run to enjoy then it's total abscurity.

Michael could be permantly erased from college basketball. Property value will go down since he owns a home in my neighborhood. Maybe I could sue Dean Smith for the difference?

Got to wait on the litigation.
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