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NFT: NCAA First Round, Part II - Friday games

Greg from LI : 3/17/2017 12:13 pm
Let's get this party started after the chalkiest first day in many years....

12:15 - #7 Michigan vs. #10 Okie St
12:40 - #3 Baylor vs. #14 New Mexico St
1:30 - #8 Arkansas vs. #9 Seton Hall
2:00 - #3 Oregon vs. #14 Iona
2:45 - #2 Louisville vs. #15 Jacksonville St
3:10 - #6 SMU vs. #11 USC
4:00 - #1 UNC vs. #16 Texas Southern
4:30 - #6 Creighton vs. #11 Rhode Island
6:50 - #1 Kansas vs. #16 UC Davis
7:10 - #7 Dayton vs. #10 Wichita St
7:20 - #2 Duke vs. #15 Troy
7:27 - #6 Cincinnati vs. #11 Kansas St
9:20 - #8 Miami vs. #9 Michigan St
9:20 - #2 Kentucky vs. #15 Northern Kentucky
9:50 - #7 South Carolina vs. #10 Marquette
9:57 - #3 UCLA vs. #14 Kent State
Big Country sighting  
B in ALB : 3/17/2017 12:51 pm : link
LOL great post B in ALB  
Metnut : 3/17/2017 12:52 pm : link
I think Big Country and Kevin Pittsnogle are two random college bball players that I always loved watching.
As far as upsets go...  
Metnut : 3/17/2017 12:55 pm : link
I feel like the obvious ones are #11 URI and #10 Wich State (both might even be favored in Vegas). I also like #10 Marquette.

For long shots... UCLA doesn't play defense so I'd give #14 Kent State a chance and #16 UC Davis is the best of the #16 seeds and KU is the worst so maybe that can be a miracle.


KU worst of the #1s I mean  
Metnut : 3/17/2017 12:55 pm : link
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Dude was a beast  
B in ALB : 3/17/2017 12:56 pm : link
PITTSnogle! From the parking lot!



He had some trashy tatoos too.
Nice thread. The 3 stooges participating  
Cruzin : 3/17/2017 1:16 pm : link

Metnut, your take on the ND/Princeton game couldn't have been more wrong. Both statements you made, "minor miracle ND won and Princeton took it to them" are completely inaccurate.

ND established control early and never relinquished it. The game was close because we were uncharacteristically missing free throws after being assaulted most of the game. Some of the contact by Princeton may have been criminal offenses.

B's whining that the referees were favoring ND because of the difference in foul totals proves he either didn't watch the game or doesn't know what he's seeing. Both options are equally possible.

You'll need to improve your analysis Nut, although you fit in well with these two amateurs at the moment.

BTW, Zaga would be the weakest 1 seed, not Kansas.

Have a Happy Irish Day!

Oh give it a rest already  
MetsAreBack : 3/17/2017 1:19 pm : link
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RE: Oh give it a rest already  
B in ALB : 3/17/2017 1:19 pm : link
In comment 13396766 MetsAreBack said:
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Don't bother. The guy is a Loser.
RE: Nice thread. The 3 stooges participating  
Metnut : 3/17/2017 1:25 pm : link
In comment 13396757 Cruzin said:
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Metnut, your take on the ND/Princeton game couldn't have been more wrong. Both statements you made, "minor miracle ND won and Princeton took it to them" are completely inaccurate.

ND established control early and never relinquished it. The game was close because we were uncharacteristically missing free throws after being assaulted most of the game. Some of the contact by Princeton may have been criminal offenses.




The refs certainly didn't favor ND (you're right that we were mugged left and right) but doesn't change the fact that ND played their worst game in at least a month. The defense (Farrell in particular) was awful down the stretch with PU shooting open corner 3s everywhere. The 3 alums I watched the game with all felt the same way.

If you think ND played good yesterday I don't know what to tell you. It's a testament to Brey and the program that we're advancing after laying egg vs a good team rather than being ousted. After playing 9:50 tipoffs all last week, I think the noon tipoff and Colson being off with an ankle hurt them. I expect them to do better vs WVU.

Nuk, Nuk, Nuk  
Cruzin : 3/17/2017 1:25 pm : link

OK Curly
Wow. New Mexico State with the lead  
B in ALB : 3/17/2017 1:28 pm : link
Over Baylor at the half.
RE: RE: Nice thread. The 3 stooges participating  
Cruzin : 3/17/2017 1:29 pm : link
In comment 13396781 Metnut said:
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In comment 13396757 Cruzin said:


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Metnut, your take on the ND/Princeton game couldn't have been more wrong. Both statements you made, "minor miracle ND won and Princeton took it to them" are completely inaccurate.

ND established control early and never relinquished it. The game was close because we were uncharacteristically missing free throws after being assaulted most of the game. Some of the contact by Princeton may have been criminal offenses.






The refs certainly didn't favor ND (you're right that we were mugged left and right) but doesn't change the fact that ND played their worst game in at least a month. The defense (Farrell in particular) was awful down the stretch with PU shooting open corner 3s everywhere. The 3 alums I watched the game with all felt the same way.

If you think ND played good yesterday I don't know what to tell you. It's a testament to Brey and the program that we're advancing after laying egg vs a good team rather than being ousted. After playing 9:50 tipoffs all last week, I think the noon tipoff and Colson being off with an ankle hurt them. I expect them to do better vs WVU.


I don't think we played well yesterday, just offering some constructive comments about your analysis. I know you're an Irish fan and would take it for what it's worth.
RE: Wow. New Mexico State with the lead  
Greg from LI : 3/17/2017 1:47 pm : link
In comment 13396797 B in ALB said:
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Over Baylor at the half.


Scott Drew teams gonna do what Scott Drew teams do
ah, the early '90s and its crop of oafish white centers with crewcuts  
Greg from LI : 3/17/2017 1:53 pm : link
Who you taking - Big Country or Montross or Ostertag?



Big Country had skills  
B in ALB : 3/17/2017 2:01 pm : link
Those two were goonish space eaters.
yeah  
YAJ2112 : 3/17/2017 2:01 pm : link
50 >>>> 00+00
Michigan/Ok St. living up to the expectations  
Kyle in NY : 3/17/2017 2:04 pm : link
Some big time shots hit in this one. Fun to watch
RE: Michigan/Ok St. living up to the expectations  
Cruzin : 3/17/2017 2:07 pm : link
In comment 13396893 Kyle in NY said:
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Some big time shots hit in this one. Fun to watch


Best game of the tourney thus far.
Montross was a very good college player  
Greg from LI : 3/17/2017 2:11 pm : link
His raw numbers aren't as impressive as Reeves', but then he played for Dean Smith. Even Michael Jordan couldn't match Reeves' scoring when he played for Dean.
About that Scott Drew comment....  
Greg from LI : 3/17/2017 2:11 pm : link
Never mind
Horrible shot by Walton who's been fantastic  
Cruzin : 3/17/2017 2:12 pm : link

almost let State back in but they miss two wide open 3's and push off. Michigan ball coming out of the commercial.

As entertains a game as I can remember this year.
entertaining  
Cruzin : 3/17/2017 2:18 pm : link

Walton again!
RE: About that Scott Drew comment....  
B in ALB : 3/17/2017 2:20 pm : link
In comment 13396907 Greg from LI said:
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Never mind


32-6 run. They look really good.
That should have been OK States ball  
montanagiant : 3/17/2017 2:23 pm : link
The missed free throws killed them and than Evans misses a lay up SMH
Got to call your banks, right?  
Cruzin : 3/17/2017 2:25 pm : link

State won't die!
What is Oklahoma State Mentality?  
B in ALB : 3/17/2017 2:27 pm : link
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2nd missed lay up  
montanagiant : 3/17/2017 2:28 pm : link
nice put back though.
Walton ices it  
Cruzin : 3/17/2017 2:29 pm : link

give that man an MVP pin.
Damn  
Cruzin : 3/17/2017 2:31 pm : link

I guess Wilson iced it!

What a great game.
That was a great great game  
B in ALB : 3/17/2017 2:31 pm : link
Make a layup and it's the Cowyboys advancing. Crazy.
Michigan  
MotownGIANTS : 3/17/2017 2:32 pm : link
with a gritty performance.
Iona putting up a good fight early against Oregon  
Greg from LI : 3/17/2017 2:32 pm : link
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Oklahoma State  
MookGiants : 3/17/2017 2:37 pm : link
played a hell of a game.

Michigan made a million threes in the 2nd half and OK State still had a chance to win.
If Solomon could box out the quicker  
Cruzin : 3/17/2017 2:42 pm : link

Wilson a little better, State would have done better on the boards. Evans missed at least 4 lay ups that I counted. Can't blame the score total on his last missed layup, that banked in three has no business going in.

Both teams fearless on offense, not much collective defense going on but there were some great individual defensive plays.

Both teams looked strong. Michigan might do some damage.
RE: Big Country sighting  
njm : 3/17/2017 2:53 pm : link
In comment 13396716 B in ALB said:
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Looks like it was just a drive by.
RE: Nice thread. The 3 stooges participating  
njm : 3/17/2017 2:54 pm : link
In comment 13396757 Cruzin said:
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Metnut, your take on the ND/Princeton game couldn't have been more wrong. Both statements you made, "minor miracle ND won and Princeton took it to them" are completely inaccurate.

ND established control early and never relinquished it. The game was close because we were uncharacteristically missing free throws after being assaulted most of the game. Some of the contact by Princeton may have been criminal offenses.

B's whining that the referees were favoring ND because of the difference in foul totals proves he either didn't watch the game or doesn't know what he's seeing. Both options are equally possible.

You'll need to improve your analysis Nut, although you fit in well with these two amateurs at the moment.

BTW, Zaga would be the weakest 1 seed, not Kansas.

Have a Happy Irish Day!


Let me guess, Notre Dame should have been the 1 seed as opposed to the Zags.
That three at the buzzer from Oklahoma State  
B in ALB : 3/17/2017 2:55 pm : link
Had them cover at +2.5. That's a brutal beat.
Seton Hall taking it to Arkansas all of a sudden  
Greg from LI : 3/17/2017 3:05 pm : link
12-1 run in two minutes
and now Arkansas comes roaring back  
Greg from LI : 3/17/2017 3:22 pm : link
Great game. 68-all with 4 to go
Brutal time to take 5 steps  
SimpleMan : 3/17/2017 3:33 pm : link
for Seton Hall guy there.
Travel?  
montanagiant : 3/17/2017 3:33 pm : link
He took 8 steps holding the ball
Carrington just turned the ball over twice  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 3/17/2017 3:33 pm : link
and Arkansas can add points.
What a crucial moment to have a brain fart there  
montanagiant : 3/17/2017 3:34 pm : link
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Now a flagrant 1 call  
SimpleMan : 3/17/2017 3:36 pm : link
Jesus that is a huge call
wow  
Ned In Atlanta : 3/17/2017 3:36 pm : link
absurd call in the seton hall game. Great job by the ref to make it about him
He tripped over his own foot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 3/17/2017 3:36 pm : link
How on Earth is that a flagrant?
BS call  
spike : 3/17/2017 3:37 pm : link
. Unbelievable
RE: BS call  
Ned In Atlanta : 3/17/2017 3:37 pm : link
In comment 13397139 spike said:
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Exactly. Total horse shit
RE: wow  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 3/17/2017 3:38 pm : link
In comment 13397135 Ned In Atlanta said:
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absurd call in the seton hall game. Great job by the ref to make it about him


Replay is ruining sports. The refs are now overanalyzing everything - of course it's going to look worse in slow-mo.
Moronic call  
batman11 : 3/17/2017 3:38 pm : link
by those refs. Stupid!
exciting game  
Greg from LI : 3/17/2017 3:39 pm : link
but man, these are a couple of sloppy teams.
I actually  
MookGiants : 3/17/2017 3:39 pm : link
think that flagrant call was correct.

Very shitty timing for it, but I can't blame the refs for actually calling it.

If you shove a guy and he winds up on his back, they're going to call it
I don't think it was a GOOD call  
Greg from LI : 3/17/2017 3:41 pm : link
But it wasn't as bad as some of you are saying, for the reason Mook gave - it was a flop, absolutely, but there WAS a push.
I had $ on Arkansas  
bigbluehoya : 3/17/2017 3:41 pm : link
And I think that was a really tough call. Not the time for that. The trip looked completely unintentional, and that's what made the foul look so hard.
Complete domino effect  
montanagiant : 3/17/2017 3:41 pm : link
Starting with the travel call
I don't care either way,  
batman11 : 3/17/2017 3:41 pm : link
but that was a bullshit call. Idiot refs need to use some judgement there.
he tripped over himself  
MookGiants : 3/17/2017 3:42 pm : link
because he got pushed.

I think they had to call it. It sucked and I generally am 100% against the refs, but i have to agree with them on that one.

You can't just push a guy and him wind up on the floor with no play on the ball and think it's not going to be called a flagrant. Yes, he did trip over himself but that doesnt happen without the push.
We'll surely see worse calls than that  
bigbluehoya : 3/17/2017 3:45 pm : link
In this tournament, but that's one where I think the officials ought to look at the combination of the intent and the situation and let the players decide the game.
That takes me back to the Dave Stallworth thread  
njm : 3/17/2017 3:45 pm : link
Mike Riordan: "Hell, that was a love tap."
Tough loss for my Pirates  
Rick in Dallas : 3/17/2017 3:48 pm : link
They lost because of turnovers but you let the kids play and don't call the flagrant one on that play. He got pushed but he tripped on that play. Refs should let them play on....
IMO, that's coaching  
Greg from LI : 3/17/2017 3:48 pm : link
Teaching players how to foul correctly is an important skill for end of game situations. If he doesn't shove the guy there as opposed to just grabbing an arm, this doesn't happen.
RE: We'll surely see worse calls than that  
batman11 : 3/17/2017 3:51 pm : link
In comment 13397164 bigbluehoya said:
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In this tournament, but that's one where I think the officials ought to look at the combination of the intent and the situation and let the players decide the game.


Agree 100%
In non-tourny news  
Greg from LI : 3/17/2017 3:51 pm : link
Rumor is that NCSU's top choice is UNCW coach Kevin Keatts.
The Seton Hall player  
spike : 3/17/2017 3:53 pm : link
should've have bear hugged him.
RE: Tough loss for my Pirates  
MookGiants : 3/17/2017 3:54 pm : link
In comment 13397178 Rick in Dallas said:
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They lost because of turnovers but you let the kids play and don't call the flagrant one on that play. He got pushed but he tripped on that play. Refs should let them play on....


He tripped because he got pushed, it's all part of it.
Pitino looks more and more embalmed every day  
Greg from LI : 3/17/2017 3:56 pm : link
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Wow I come on a NCAA thread after a tough call  
Stu11 : 3/17/2017 4:18 pm : link
and find Mook praising the officials. Whats next am I going to go on the JPP thread and find GoTerps praising the deal? lol actually good job Mook you called it right. Hands on the back shoving is a flagrant 1, no question. As a ref we laugh when people say "Let the players decide the game" How does letting one player get away with a blatantly illegal act letting the players decide the game?
Holy shit that slam by Ojeleye on SMU was brutal  
montanagiant : 3/17/2017 4:29 pm : link
Definite highlight
Refs ice the smu shooter  
B in ALB : 3/17/2017 5:13 pm : link
This replay stuff is Bullshit.
SMU  
MookGiants : 3/17/2017 5:15 pm : link
looked lost offensively on their final 2 possessions and the coach somehow keeps 3 timeouts in his pocket
It's crazy how teams in that "First Four" always seem to win.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 3/17/2017 5:16 pm : link
USC had no business being in the tournament and now they have 2 wins under their belt. I know a lot of people that loved SMU.
RE: RE: Nice thread. The 3 stooges participating  
Cruzin : 3/17/2017 5:16 pm : link
In comment 13397031 njm said:
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Metnut, your take on the ND/Princeton game couldn't have been more wrong. Both statements you made, "minor miracle ND won and Princeton took it to them" are completely inaccurate.

ND established control early and never relinquished it. The game was close because we were uncharacteristically missing free throws after being assaulted most of the game. Some of the contact by Princeton may have been criminal offenses.

B's whining that the referees were favoring ND because of the difference in foul totals proves he either didn't watch the game or doesn't know what he's seeing. Both options are equally possible.

You'll need to improve your analysis Nut, although you fit in well with these two amateurs at the moment.

BTW, Zaga would be the weakest 1 seed, not Kansas.

Have a Happy Irish Day!




Let me guess, Notre Dame should have been the 1 seed as opposed to the Zags.
nah, ND should have been a 3 seed and Duke should have gotten the 1 seed over Zaga. ND will knock Zaga out of the tourney though. Lurch, meet Bonzie'
Well, there goes my first S16 team  
Greg from LI : 3/17/2017 5:17 pm : link
SMU screws me again
Also, Kevin Keatts to NC State  
Greg from LI : 3/17/2017 5:24 pm : link
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I was 14 of 16 yesterday  
montanagiant : 3/17/2017 6:14 pm : link
18-23 so far today. OK State, SMU, Seton Hall killed me today
Perfect bracket already busted on Yahoo  
montanagiant : 3/17/2017 6:17 pm : link
No one can get one
20/24 today  
Greg from LI : 3/17/2017 6:53 pm : link
Rhode Island came through for me.
I've lost 3 games thus far...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/17/2017 6:59 pm : link
UVM, SMU, & Seton Hall.
Refs taking over  
B in ALB : 3/17/2017 8:45 pm : link
In the duke game.
When don't they?  
Greg from LI : 3/17/2017 9:08 pm : link
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Archie Miller is a pip squeek  
B in ALB : 3/17/2017 9:26 pm : link
turd. Perfect fit for Indiana.
Frank Martin with some  
B in ALB : 3/17/2017 10:16 pm : link
serious flair tonight. The UnderArmor pin is just ridiculous.
B  
Cruzin : 3/17/2017 10:43 pm : link

I swear to God, 2 hours in my living room I could make you understand the game.

You're just embarrassing yourself.

I recommend Califorication on DVD to binge watch. Best show ever. Of course, you'd have to be cool to get it. I honestly think you qualify for coolness but don't have access to what is out there. Be Hank.

Stop posting on College BBall threads, your value as a quality poster couldn't be lower.

I mean that in an instructional way. I got St Looie ribs on the grill tomorrow and leftover corned beef. No BBIer ever left my house hungry, including Nads O'Leary.

you could be an insider. Reach out, you have potential. Embrace the old farts, we've seen more than you.
It's a friendly post B  
Cruzin : 3/17/2017 10:59 pm : link

It's St Patty's and I'm watching Mich St with the green borders on the court pad my bank account, been a great day. Too cold for fishing this morning but the ocean was green, Rhode Island is legit and your claim that USC was unworthy was totally destroyed by their second win in the tourney.

Reach out or go away til the NIT starts up again. I honestly believe that Cuse would have beat Va if they had the chance but you didn't qualify for the chance.

Keep it real B. Bond with me on my Mich St windfall.

Heh, heh.
That's a great game by MSU  
B in ALB : 3/17/2017 11:29 pm : link
They're going to be a force next year.

Kent State hanging in.
For some reason  
MetsAreBack : 3/17/2017 11:39 pm : link
It didn't register to me that South Carolina might actually get Duke in South Carolina on Sunday. That would be really fun - hope they hold on here
MAB  
B in ALB : 3/17/2017 11:41 pm : link
Crazy that SC gets not only a 7, but plays 130 miles from home.

That said, they're playing well and could knock out Duke. I'm ok with that!
Nobody's gonna knock out Dook  
Cruzin : 3/18/2017 12:09 am : link

Until the final 4.

Here's an idea. Since you think you're connected and I'm a loser, I'll give you 2 days to find out who Charlie Yelverton was. That's how far I go back and you are not even in the equation,

I'll help you though and as promised, I'll feed you well.

I can't tell you who Nad's O'Leary was though. If I told you, I'd have to kill you.

Any Fordham fans want to chime in on Charlie?  
Cruzin : 3/18/2017 12:48 am : link

An Icon.

Willie Glass before the sweater.

Note any responses , those of us that lived it will be far more advanced than any newbies.

Newbies being anyone one before 1971.

Yeah, I'm old but trained and connected by the best there ever was. Digger was cool but any coach that played the game respected Bobby Knight as the best. No one has surpassed him since.

The political upheaval has merit but if your kid is a potential hooper with the gumption to put in the work, there was s no price on Bobby. He's the best there ever was and that comes straight from Digger, Frank McLaughlin and Dick Debasio.

I would think ND, Harvard and Stanford would be a mic drop.

Have a nice night.


Finished 25-32 for the first round  
montanagiant : 3/18/2017 12:48 am : link
Rough day after a good start yesterday. Still have all ,my 16, 8 and 4 alive though
How ya feeling B?  
Cruzin : 3/18/2017 1:09 am : link

UNCW, Middle Tennesee and Mich St just funded my summer.

That's Disneyworld for the family plus Roger Waters in Philly for myself with maybe a baseball game before the concert. If I hit ND over WV I can go first class or invite djm and feelflows as my guests. I owe jlukes since he made it possible for my son to attend his first ballgame, so he's first on the list. Sorry D.

Get a clue man. Make some money. I'm done already but I'll give up my source for a price.

Baylor's going down soon, just have to pick the right time, same with Oregon and Zaga.

Was a great day! And to all a good night...
UNC-Arkansas  
MookGiants : 3/18/2017 1:14 am : link
is right before Duke too. So if UNC wins you will have all of the UNC fans cheering against Duke with the SC fans. Could be fun.
The UNC fans realize that this might be their last hurrah  
Cruzin : 3/18/2017 1:27 am : link

I spoke with a father of a past UNC player today who works at my pharmacy.

Litigation has been stalled longer than should be. UNC will be erased from the archives. Think SMU. Tarheel fans have this run to enjoy then it's total abscurity.

Michael could be permantly erased from college basketball. Property value will go down since he owns a home in my neighborhood. Maybe I could sue Dean Smith for the difference?

Got to wait on the litigation.
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