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NFT: Google's new tool - 80% of roofs viable for solar panels

Ira : 3/19/2017 12:18 pm
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In a new expansion of its Project Sunroof, the company has built 3-D models of rooftops in all 50 states, looked at the trees around people’s homes, considered the local weather, and figured out how much energy each house or building can generate if its owners plunk down for some panels.


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Sunroof lets you search for your house, suggests how large a solar array you might consider putting on your roof, and estimates how much energy it will generate—as well as how much it would cost to lease or buy the panels.

It’s a handy tool, and comes at a good time. Solar has been growing quickly in the U.S., with installations nearly doubling over the course of 2016. But most of that is on the utility scale—residential installations grew just 19 percent last year, mostly because demand is drying up in big state markets like California.

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RE: RE: My boss is in westchester  
UConn4523 : 3/20/2017 9:01 am : link
In comment 13399546 Jim in Forest Hills said:
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check with your insurance about it before you do anything. Certain towns won't put out roof fires which causes your premiums to go up substantially.



This has been eliminated with the adoption of universal fire setbacks put into place in 2016 in NY state.


Good to know. I think he built his house in 2015 so I guess it was still an issue then.

For me in CT I'm around $2,000 per year in electricity so getting my money back in anything more than 5 years makes it hard to get serious about going through everything. I'd have to look into the CT rebates again but there aren't as aggressive the last time I checked. Am I wrong about that?
CT is a weaker market  
Jim in Forest Hills : 3/20/2017 9:10 am : link
there are SRECs available but they were trading for around $20 each last time I checked. Not very appetizing for purchase.

The only product that would interest me is a 0 escalator lease in CT. Meaning if they fixed your rate for 10 years and it never moved. It would be low savings now, but would hedge against price increases over 20 years (well your price would never rise).
Sorry fixed your rate for 20 years, not 10.  
Jim in Forest Hills : 3/20/2017 9:13 am : link
But yes you are correct, until SREc prices rise, purchases are not a great idea in CT.
Pj  
Ron Johnson 30 : 3/20/2017 9:13 am : link
I'm familiar with him. I make an effort to be "green" but I don't use solar. I don't want it on my house. My focus is on energy conservation.
RE: How is Solar panel different from solar tiles?  
Jim in Forest Hills : 3/20/2017 9:20 am : link
In comment 13399418 spike said:
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Solar tiles look so much better imo. But what is the difference in cost?


Solar Tiles aka Tesla tiles are new, so questions abound. It looks better, but we've only heard estimations on cost and efficiency. Will they be via string inverter? What will manage the power?

Right now the only answer is that it will cost roughly the same amount as a tile or slate roof which is 3X more than comp shingle (which is 90% of non flat roofs).

My personal opinion - it was rolled out to increase buzz, so that the merger could hapen. SC is not in great financial shape, so that was the shiny news before merging.

I think its a year or two away from being viable for non spanish tile/slate roofs.

And remember, for homeowners who already own spanish tile or slate roofs, those roofs last forever with just spot repair.
RE: Pj  
EricJ : 3/20/2017 9:22 am : link
In comment 13399601 Ron Johnson 30 said:
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I'm familiar with him. I make an effort to be "green" but I don't use solar. I don't want it on my house. My focus is on energy conservation.


IMO, creating an envelope around your living space with closed cell spray foam may be the way to go.
RE: RE: Solar City guarantees approval for new buyer.  
Brown Recluse : 3/20/2017 9:22 am : link
In comment 13399559 HomerJones45 said:
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Or they can install on new house. I'm not moving so not a concern for me.

i am sure they do but that is not the point. The buyer now has a new payment obligation that must be figured into their ratios to qualify for their Mortgage.

And think twice about paying lease pAyyments in advance. I saw one deal tank because the seller wanted to be reimbursed for thousands in lease payments to Solar City they had made in advance and the buyer felt they had paid for the system in the purchase price.


I have a realtor friend that told me she is having a difficult time selling houses with solar panels. Apparently they are not good for resale value. Too many people don't want to buy a house with those on the roof.
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UConn4523 : 3/20/2017 9:25 am : link
In comment 13399607 EricJ said:
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I'm familiar with him. I make an effort to be "green" but I don't use solar. I don't want it on my house. My focus is on energy conservation.



IMO, creating an envelope around your living space with closed cell spray foam may be the way to go.


I was looking into that as well, but seems like a real pain in the ass to open up every wall in the house (and expensive). Have you done it before?
RE: RE: RE: Solar City guarantees approval for new buyer.  
EricJ : 3/20/2017 9:27 am : link
In comment 13399609 Brown Recluse said:
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I have a realtor friend that told me she is having a difficult time selling houses with solar panels. Apparently they are not good for resale value. Too many people don't want to buy a house with those on the roof.


I am sure there are a lot of factors. If the panels are on the front of the house vs the rear it may be an eye sore. If this is a wealthy community where the potential buyers would rather not look at panels and pay the extra $$ for their electric bill. I would think that in other areas where the dollar is harder to come by, the idea of having panels to significantly reduce monthly costs would be a good thing.
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Jim in Forest Hills : 3/20/2017 9:28 am : link
In comment 13399611 UConn4523 said:
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I'm familiar with him. I make an effort to be "green" but I don't use solar. I don't want it on my house. My focus is on energy conservation.



IMO, creating an envelope around your living space with closed cell spray foam may be the way to go.



I was looking into that as well, but seems like a real pain in the ass to open up every wall in the house (and expensive). Have you done it before?


Im interested in this as well, I need insulation, especially in the front of my home. But I don't want to take all my walls down or punch holes, is there a less intrusive way?
I had the spray foam  
pjcas18 : 3/20/2017 9:40 am : link
insulation done in my attic for free as part of the Mass Save energy program in Massachusetts.

Literally no cost to mass residents, they come to your house - replace all your bulbs with high efficiency LED bulbs - no cost for the bulbs and if you qualify will spray foam insulate your attic. They'll also give you rebates and discounts on furnace/boiler replacements after they come to your house and do an assessment.

I haven't looked into getting the foam sprayed anywhere else, they only recommend it in the attic with this program (if it's the same stuff)
my attic isn't really accessible  
UConn4523 : 3/20/2017 9:53 am : link
so that's out as far as spray goes. The insulation in my house in general is horrible, just one of the many things that doesn't come up on an inspection. Lesson learned though, won't be buying any old construction ever again.
Jim  
Ron Johnson 30 : 3/20/2017 12:13 pm : link
There are foam methods with small exterior holes. It's very hard to see the plugged holes. The issue today, energy is relatively cheap so the ROI isn't great.
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UConn4523 : 3/20/2017 12:23 pm : link
In comment 13399868 Ron Johnson 30 said:
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There are foam methods with small exterior holes. It's very hard to see the plugged holes. The issue today, energy is relatively cheap so the ROI isn't great.


What about the existing insulation, is it just sprayed over it or is it removed?
Page, Brin and Zuckerman should pay for universal installation  
Torrag : 3/20/2017 12:28 pm : link
1% cocksuckers.
The Targets and Walmarts of the world  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 3/20/2017 12:37 pm : link
have started to put solar farms on-top of their shopping center. Pretty ingenious way to power their facilities.
Green Street Solar  
spike : 3/20/2017 3:56 pm : link
Is coming in for a visit next month

Ever heard of them, Jim?
Yes, they are a small company.  
Jim in Forest Hills : 3/20/2017 4:17 pm : link
Send me the details if you want and I will tell you of you are getting a fair price and what to look for.
RE: Yes, they are a small company.  
spike : 3/20/2017 6:42 pm : link
In comment 13400421 Jim in Forest Hills said:
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Send me the details if you want and I will tell you of you are getting a fair price and what to look for.


Ok. They are comjng by in a couple of weeks. I ll keep you posted. Honestly Im interested in replacing my roof before installing any solar equipments. So solar tiles interest me
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