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NFT: NBA Sucks: Stars Sitting For Rest

KWALL2 : 3/19/2017 3:06 pm
So how are you supposed to drop money on NBA tickets for a good matchup?

I just spent $1200 for 2 tickets to Cavs/Clippers(my 10 year old is a Lebron fan). He was fired up to see James with these great seats. I paid for it thinking there was no chance they would sit. They didn't play the night before and this was the FIRST game of a back to back.

Get to the game right before tip off and find out they aren't playing. Stadium was packed with out of town Cavs fans who paid big money and traveled to see Channing Frye get big minutes. Talked with people who drive from SF and ARZ for this game. They didn't know about it until really late too.

It was awful. Prime time game. Big matchup. And they just sit them and worst of all announce it late. Horseshit move by the Cavs especially doing it so late. GS and Spurs doing the same shit.

You can't count on getting what you paid for at NBA games. I won't do it again. We paid for something and they didn't deliver. Great business. I won't be back for another regular season game.

I hear Van Gundy went off about it all night. Good for him.



These guys suck. Coaches and teams suck too for doing it. I hope this hits them next time the TV deal is up.

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again  
PaulBlakeTSU : 3/20/2017 8:53 am : link
this style of NBA play puts huge stress on these players-- it's likely the same issue as all the non-contact injuries in the NFL. These guys are faster and stronger and more explosive and it has an effect on their joints and ligaments.

Plus, it doesn't make sense for teams to completely burn out their players that they will need for lengthy playoffs when they know they are making the playoffs.

Fix the schedule, NBA. I'd say reduce it, but it's all about $ so that will never happen.
As long as they are playing back to back games  
AnnapolisMike : 3/20/2017 9:01 am : link
You are going to see this. Can't fault the coaches. Don't buy tickets to see a team that is in the middle of a tough road trip.
yeah I get why they do it  
UConn4523 : 3/20/2017 9:05 am : link
but fans just shouldn't buy tickets in advance anymore, that might push for some change.

Mark a game down that you want to go to and try to get tickets day of. Not ideal, but it keeps you from having to blow money on something.
fans like the nba  
hitdog42 : 3/20/2017 9:18 am : link
so they buy the tickets. it is pretty simple.

does it suck for Kwall? yes absolutely. do i feel bad? yes absolutely. I would be pissed as well.

that doesn't mean this is some indictment on the toughness of NBA players... or the product
The NBA sucks  
Mr. Bungle : 3/20/2017 9:33 am : link
all the time.
Rather spend money on a college game  
Vin R : 3/20/2017 9:52 am : link
The NBA just doesn't do it for me anymore
RE: Rather spend money on a college game  
UConn4523 : 3/20/2017 10:03 am : link
In comment 13399641 Vin R said:
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The NBA just doesn't do it for me anymore


Same, though its been that way for a while for me. I'm not a basketball purist, I'm fine not seeing the best players in the world play since they are a bunch of insufferable whiny cunts with few exceptions.

College ball just has the drama the NBA doesn't and the atmosphere can't be topped.
That absolutely sucks KWALL...  
BillKo : 3/20/2017 10:14 am : link
..and what also absolutely sucks is paying $600 a piece for a single game.

I could never economically justify that.
I'm with hitdog  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 3/20/2017 11:52 am : link
watching the awful level of play in college during March Madness might be "fun" to some but I don't get it. The older I've gotten, the less I care about college sports and the joke that is the NCAA.

College Pride definitely makes for a better atmosphere, but that only goes so far. The NBA product is infinitely more interesting to watch for me.
I'll never quite understand  
MookGiants : 3/20/2017 11:54 am : link
how people love to watch something where 95% of the time you know who is going to be in the finals before the season even starts.

To me that makes a grand total of basically 7 games the entire year worth watching.
I've definitely been  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 3/20/2017 11:54 am : link
watching the tourney though. I don't think it's totally crap. The results tend to be close because of how often these teams choke, makes for exciting results.
One and done  
Deej : 3/20/2017 11:56 am : link
has really impacted my interest in NCAA. The good teams from 20 years ago would slaughter the current crop, where the best players are all freshmen, and the upper classmen are necessarily lesser talents.
If LeBron James is chasing "Jordan's ghost"  
EddieNYG : 3/20/2017 11:56 am : link
This doesn't look good. Jordan never sat out a game to "rest".
RE: I'm with hitdog  
Sean : 3/20/2017 11:58 am : link
In comment 13399806 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said:
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watching the awful level of play in college during March Madness might be "fun" to some but I don't get it. The older I've gotten, the less I care about college sports and the joke that is the NCAA.

College Pride definitely makes for a better atmosphere, but that only goes so far. The NBA product is infinitely more interesting to watch for me.


I agree, but only for a week in June.
RE: I'll never quite understand  
BillKo : 3/20/2017 1:38 pm : link
In comment 13399807 MookGiants said:
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how people love to watch something where 95% of the time you know who is going to be in the finals before the season even starts.

To me that makes a grand total of basically 7 games the entire year worth watching.


...and that's what I end up watching, if at all. The Finals.
The other point is  
LCtheINTMachine : 3/20/2017 1:38 pm : link
it makes sense to rest players in glamorous matchups.

Warriors played the Wolves and Spurs back to back. Try and get the win against the worse team and rest for the tougher game - although they lost both.

Cavs playing Clips and Lakers. May as well ensure the win over the Lakers by letting the King reign and rest against the Clips. Makes perfect sense, especially in the analytics era that is driving the decision-making.
RE: If LeBron James is chasing  
PaulBlakeTSU : 3/20/2017 1:44 pm : link
In comment 13399817 EddieNYG said:
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This doesn't look good. Jordan never sat out a game to "rest".


Jordan also sat out two seasons to go play minor league baseball.

It's a different game now.
Even worse considering the game is officiated differently  
Dave in Hoboken : 3/20/2017 1:46 pm : link
and alot of stuff that was allowed in the past isn't allowed now. Weak.
I would imagine  
PaulBlakeTSU : 3/20/2017 1:48 pm : link
today's game is more taxing on the athletes (especially with their year-round training) than the more physical "bodied" games of the past.
Well I guess they'd never give up money...  
MetsAreBack : 3/21/2017 8:44 am : link

But based on a 30 team league i'd cut the regular season from 82 to 76 games. Right now you play your division 4x, West 2x, and other divisions in the east sometimes 3 and sometimes 4. Just make it 3x against non division opponents. Schedule makers limit back-to-backs to 6-8 range over a season.

First round needs to go back to best of 5. I cant remember the last great 7 game first round series. Maybe there's 1 every 5 years. If there is its usually two mediocre teams in the East that lose in 5 in the next round anyway.

Have one or two wild card play-in games in both conferences to get some of that first round interest back - 7 plays 10 and 8 plays 9 in both conferences. One game sudden death on the higher seeds court.
A few schedule model would work for me  
Joey from GlenCove : 3/21/2017 9:06 am : link
All include getting rid of divisions. Which at this point are meaningless. The main concern is we need to get rid of the back to back

I also feel like the NBA will go to 32 teams seattle and (cinci,vegas, kansas city, pitt, another cali etc.)

For 30 team league: 2 conferences 72 games
3x own conference
2x other conference

5 game first round

My favorite: 1 table play everyone twice. 58 games and in a 32 league team 62 games

I dont even watch the NBA anymore...  
EricJ : 3/21/2017 9:11 am : link
for this reason and others. So, yeah I am making a statement with my wallet. Dont go to games, dont watch the TV of their ads... nothing.

Also...(no real disrespect to KWALL), but no player is worth that kind of money to see play.

Season ticket holders should just dump the season seats next year and just buy tickets to games on a one off basis. Maybe target the game after your star player sits.

I see a sports market crash at some point. When our economy gets in real bad shape and people just dont have the disposable income, then watch teams fold, salaries drop, etc etc. Hockey will be the first to go and it is a shame because those guys give 100% every night and most of them play for the love of the sport.
RE: I dont even watch the NBA anymore...  
MetsAreBack : 3/21/2017 9:43 am : link
In comment 13401084 EricJ said:
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Hockey will be the first to go and it is a shame because those guys give 100% every night and most of them play for the love of the sport.



Sorry but this is just plain wrong. Hockey (for some damn reason) hasnt had the exponential revenue growth the other sports have had, is not dependent on the huge TV deals, and is not paying guys $25 million a year to pitch every 5-6 days.

Second, half the league sits in Canada which has already gone through its currency crisis. A U.S. recession would strengthen the looney and provide the league relative strength versus the 3 other sports.

No, without question, the first sport "to go" as the bubble bursts is baseball. I make a nice living but for the life of me cannot understand how they are able to get people to pay so much money for regular season baseball tickets, and the TV deals make absolutely no sense. Its like the networks are too lazy to put stuff on over the summer with better bottom line.
Baseball will never  
steve in ky : 3/21/2017 9:58 am : link
really go away. There will always be a line of guys who want to play a game for a living, and another line of people willing to watch them.

Teams may fail, salaries and ticket prices may be adjusted but the game won't go away.

Well hockey isnt going away either ... obviously  
MetsAreBack : 3/21/2017 11:45 am : link
none of the 4 sports are "going away"

Its just a question of which bubble will burst the loudest, and my educated guess is baseball.
Was watching NBA highlights on YouTube last night  
Vin R : 3/21/2017 11:49 am : link
Kept clicking on videos from the 90's and early 2000's..


Ugh I miss it
Magin Johnson last 3 seasons, games played:  
Stan in LA : 3/21/2017 12:04 pm : link
77, 79, 79.

Jordan: 82, 82, 82.

Wilt: 82, 82, 82.

Stockton: 82, 82 82

Yeah, today players need rest because...

Just because.



'Magic'  
Stan in LA : 3/21/2017 12:04 pm : link
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The other point is  
LCtheINTMachine : 3/21/2017 3:29 pm : link
no one complains that the Lakers are sitting players as they try to tank for LaVar Ball. The more you think about it it's a mess.
KWALL  
Rich in L.A. : 3/21/2017 7:01 pm : link
That completely sucks. And I feel your pain. Plunked down serious bucks two years ago to see Kobe in his final go-round as a Christmas present to my two sons. At the ARENA it was announced he was sitting it out, even though the Lakers hadn't played for a few days. Just a complete downer.
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