Should be the first of 4 losses this week. 4 road games against 3 playoff teams and a 4th likely one. Unless the Spurs rest everyone.
Big stat lines last night:
-Dame 49
-Kyrie 46
-D-Lo 40
-Lebron 34 and 7
-Love 21 and 15
-Ingram with 18
-Nurkic 21 and 12, 3 blocks
-Davis 28 and 12. Jordan Crawford 22, been a big addition. Solomon hill has been doing a bit better too.
-KAT 33, Wiggins 25
-Saric with 23. Another win, the sixers actually look like a decent team without Embiid/Simmons
-WCS and Hield. 18 and 5 assists. Skal 14 and 7
Sixers don't really have an incentive to tank. They will naturally pass Sacramento in the standings so a top 6 pick is very much in play.
yesterdays intervies sounded like an after the season press conference, kp and rose both said the tram jist never clicked together and couldnt get it going...
Every word out of this guy's mouth pisses me off.
Agreed, that's just silly - waiting to be mathematically eliminated? This team mailed it in since november
The only competition is whether over this time is who has been worse, the FO (collectively) and the players. And your dedicated following of the team over the past few weeks has gradually been sapped, because of irrelevance, of focus on what to me is arguably the worst move of the 2016 offseason, the signing of Joakim. I loved watching his heart, smarts, and hustle with the Bulls, but his last two years were such red flags, and to see him this season, even in the early games, it was clear he has lost a big % of his mobility, whether age, arthritis, desire, whatever. And at that contractual term, that cost. My goodness.
Again, nothing but admiration for you guys here, but the recompense is so out of proportion. How many organizations in professional sports in recent years, with the $$ and fanbase the Knicks control, have outdone the Knicks in ineptitude?
yesterdays intervies sounded like an after the season press conference, kp and rose both said the tram jist never clicked together and couldnt get it going...
At what point do we completely kill Horn and Phil? Either or. Horn for not putting his stamp on things and Phil for putting too much of a stamp on things. Fucking stamps. We either have too many stamps or not enough stamps at MSG.
Horn did a dreadful job this year. I don't care what Phil is or isn't doing. Coach the fucking team. Coach to win. I haven't seen a bigger mess of a team at MSG in a long time. And that's saying something. This team wasn't very good but they shouldn't be this bad. This is a travesty. With that said, it's a well placed travesty. Bank the tank. Pick a winner.
That's why there needs to be clarity. Boston hires Stevens with an understanding there would be a lot of losing early on, and he just did his thing on the developmental front with no worries about job status. Same with Brown in Philly and Atkinson in Brooklyn. Our coaches have no clue what direction we're going because Phil has no clue either.
Quote:
he has no problem with it..
yesterdays intervies sounded like an after the season press conference, kp and rose both said the tram jist never clicked together and couldnt get it going...
At what point do we completely kill Horn and Phil? Either or. Horn for not putting his stamp on things and Phil for putting too much of a stamp on things. Fucking stamps. We either have too many stamps or not enough stamps at MSG.
Horn did a dreadful job this year. I don't care what Phil is or isn't doing. Coach the fucking team. Coach to win. I haven't seen a bigger mess of a team at MSG in a long time. And that's saying something. This team wasn't very good but they shouldn't be this bad. This is a travesty. With that said, it's a well placed travesty. Bank the tank. Pick a winner.
Clean house and bring in a competent and experienced GM. And truly clean house- not the half measure Phil did. No more Alan Houston, Steve Mills, even the trainer Roger Hinds on the bench with a clipboard. Jackson has completely failed at changing the toxic environment and has actually made it worse. The high draft pick is great but it would be insane to entrust Jackson with another offseason.
That's why there needs to be clarity. Boston hires Stevens with an understanding there would be a lot of losing early on, and he just did his thing on the developmental front with no worries about job status. Same with Brown in Philly and Atkinson in Brooklyn. Our coaches have no clue what direction we're going because Phil has no clue either.
Earl Watson made this exact point last week. How hard it is for coaches to accept tanking when their jobs are on the line.
Clean house and bring in a competent and experienced GM. And truly clean house- not the half measure Phil did. No more Alan Houston, Steve Mills, even the trainer Roger Hinds on the bench with a clipboard. Jackson has completely failed at changing the toxic environment and has actually made it worse. The high draft pick is great but it would be insane to entrust Jackson with another offseason.
The toxic environment comes from Dolan and is institutionalized at the Garden (although interestingly not @ the Rangers). It's nice to say "clean house" but the house is the problem -- not what is inside it. We dont need a clean-up, we need a cleansing fire.
As for Horny, it's hard to avoid a conclusion that he has done an awful job. It doesnt help that his two "stars" are completely resistant to coach, dont play defense, and know that there is nothing JH can do about it.
And Rambis, Red Auerbach wouldn't have delivered any championships with Rambis on his staff as the defensive guru.
None of the moves have effected our ability to rebuild. Noah's contract won't prevent us from doing anything and we didn't give up any young players, picks or assets to bring in these vets.
I just pray they don't make stupid signings again this offseason.
Gotta figure the NYK will somehow win enough games to miss out on all these PGs. Murphy's (Knicks) Law.
I wonder if this guy Milos Teodocic would come for big bucks?
They aren't Paul George who would be the face on every billboard in Southern California if they were to jump ship.
Troy Weaver OKC
Mark Hughes (Knicks current director of player personnel, people are very high on him)
Brian Pauga (Wolves sniped him from SA)
Sixers easily. Orlando blows. Sixers have a pretty decent schedule going forward and have been winning some games and don't get affected by it because they have sacramentos pick.
Exactly - if Phil Jackson, with his rep and Lil' Jimmy's determination to hire him, didn't have enough pull to get Houston and Mills shitcanned, no anonymous young NBA exec is going to pull it off.
Quote:
Remember what team you root for. They're not still here because of Phil.
Exactly - if Phil Jackson, with his rep and Lil' Jimmy's determination to hire him, didn't have enough pull to get Houston and Mills shitcanned, no anonymous young NBA exec is going to pull it off.
The flipside is probably, why would Phil care to get Mills fired? In this structure, Mills is likely just a pass thru -- having the initial trade talks and reporting back. Gathering reports on D leaguers. Etc.
"The Kazoos are down to 25th in points allowed per possession after the Nets flitted around for 121 points in Madison Square Garden on Thursday. Two of the five teams trailing New York in defensive efficiency are trying to lose. That includes the Lakers, who spent years clutching pearls about tanking from atop their golden throne -- WON'T SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN! -- before embarking on perhaps the most naked late-season tank job in recent NBA history. They sent two veterans home, and were about to banish Nick Young -- noted winner Nick Young -- until the public shaming became too much for them.
Back to the Kazoos: they are bad at basically every part of defense. They rank last in defensive rebounding rate. Their transition defense has been an abominable mix of lazy and uncoordinated. Derrick Rose is among the half-dozen worst defenders among all full-time starters. He's either lazy, clueless, or both. The Knicks should not re-sign him unless his market collapses into nothingness.
Carmelo Anthony has been a minus on defense for years, and he completely checks out on some nights. It's hard to blame him. With everyone fixated on the NCAA tourney, Melo brought us the single best, "Yeah, I care more about my shooting percentage than helping my awful team win" instance of half-court heave avoidance in league history:
That is the basketball representation of not giving a crap. That is avant garde art.
The scary part about New York's defense? Things could even be worse. New York has allowed a ton of open 3s, but opponents have hit an unusually low percentage of them, per NBA.com.
But, sure, keep working on the triangle. Difficulty mastering that has definitely been the thing keeping the Kazoos down for the last 15 years."
Zach Lowe ESPN - ( New Window )
I would rather sit out any big free agency moves and just go with a youth movement. Let Hornacek focus on developing the team and not chasing the 8th seed. If it leads to another high pick, then you get another young player to add to the core.
The only 'attainable" free agent point guard who would interest me is Patty Mills. He's only 28, can play off the ball or even come off the bench if the 2017 pick is a PG. Any guess what he will cost?
Unrelated, but wow did Josh Jackson impress over the weekend. That guy can play. Any chance he goes number 1? Wouldn't mind pairing him with KP.....
Should've started doing this 10 games ago.
Well that's my point. Enough shoveling "okay"/solid veterans onto the Melo Hill and being cool with "being a little better". There is no doubt Teague/Hill are better than Derrick Rose. It doesn't mean either one makes any sense on the 3-4 year 15+ million dollar deals they will be getting. No more of this crap.
No, Rose is delusional. He thinks his D is good.
I dont care if we win 15 or 45 games next season. I want to see a baseline of discipline and accountability put down. No NBA team has gotten anywhere being as uncommitted as we are.