So here's where I'm confused. Last week, Ernie accidentally hears Jimmy confess on Chuck's tape recorder. Chuck makes it absolutely clear to Ernie that he's can't tell anyone.
But this week, Chuck is working this angle, the success of which relies on Jimmy finding out about the tape, and breaking into Chuck's house to destroy it. How does Chuck imagine that Jimmy will even find out about the tape, if he told Ernie to keep quiet about it? Is there a detail here that's so obvious that I'm missing it?
Great observation.
Kim on the other hand, I have no idea. I feel like she'll get disbarred somehow or might have to move from bad publicity from Jimmy going to jail.
Steve, I said the same thing yesterday @ 12:47 post.
So, whatever they get him on now will obviously be dismissed. Maybe his defense is that Chuck is crazy. Won't be too hard to prove.
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happens between Better Call Saul and Breaking Bad to turn Jimmy into Saul I cannot imagine is something on such a grand scale as murder / criminal. Jimmy works and practices in Albuquerque in both shows. He has previously been employed by two of the largest firms in the area and has his face has been plastered on television with ad's & billboards as Jimmy McGill (he's publically known). In Breaking Bad he is even more well known publically (Jesse & Walt know him even before ever meeting him from commercials). If Chuck is successful in his attempt to get Jimmy barred from Law or criminally in trouble with that tape then simply changing his name isn't going to escape him from the past enough to start practicing law again. If Chuck or Kim are murdered because of his doing, again H.H.M. & Davis & Main are going to have major suspicion of the one guy who ties those two people together that they know unquestionably just changing his name and going about his career in town. Something more subtle on a public scale but heart wrenching is going to have to happen to cause Jimmy to turn into Saul in my opinion.
Steve, I said the same thing yesterday @ 12:47 post.
So, whatever they get him on now will obviously be dismissed. Maybe his defense is that Chuck is crazy. Won't be too hard to prove.
Real simple. My brother is crazy and I do things to make him less crazy and I got upset because I am over here helping him all the time and he is here trying to frame for crap I didn't do. I have every right to be upset at my brother.
Doesn't matter if it is the tape... Howard already said he's not going to use it. What they could get him for is forcing his way into the home, destroying property, and threatening to burn down the house.
HHM wanted to distance themselves from Chuck but they don't want him gone. The first episode of the show Jimmy is meeting with Howard trying to get Howard to pay out Chuck's share which he cant do because the firm cant afford to pay him out. They rather him be an invalid locked up in his home, but don't want him gone and taking his equity in the company. Howard's fear was that Jimmy would have Chuck committed and use power of attorney to force HHM to buy him out, as that would bankrupt the firm. Jimmy "does the right thing" and only uses the power of attorney to get the tests done Chuck needs but does not have Chuck committed to collect the money despite what Chuck and Howard expect him to do. This goes back to the final episode of the first season when Jimmy comes to the realization that he held millions of dollars in his hand and did the right thing and gave it back. He says when given the opportunity again he will never make that mistake again. Next time Chuck has an episode, Jimmy will again have the opportunity in his hands for the mega-payout from HHM, bankrupting them and taking the money.
I think its been said that if Chuck were to cash out, the firm would go belly up.
On the flip side, if Chuck had acted as a proud older brother, there is a chance that Jimmy might have straightened himself out.
Honestly, at that point, two years ago, Jimmy switched over to Saul. But they decided to drag out the story line another couple of years when Jimmy will (hopefully, who knows, we'll see how the ratings go) reach the same exact point he did after throwing away a lucrative big time lawyer gig and leaving Mike in the photo hut booth..
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that the tape Jimmy destroyed wasn't "The Tape?"
Doesn't matter if it is the tape... Howard already said he's not going to use it. What they could get him for is forcing his way into the home, destroying property, and threatening to burn down the house.
This isn't true at all. He said he wasn't going to use the tape at a time when the tape was all that was available as evidence. Once Jimmy did all of the things you just noted he did, it proves he believes the tape to be real and incriminating. That gives the tape as evidence far more value in court than it did before.
If that wasn't the actual tape, then the real one would certainly be back on the table, I'd think.
I think we know he doesn't get disbarred, right? He was a practicing attorney in Breaking bad which is probably after all the Chuck stuff.
Unless he gets his license back after a while or is simply practicing law without a license or viewed changing his name from Jimmy to Saul as a way to get a fake license under a different name.
I doubt it's CS, but it could be. If I were the writer, I'd go there. be a nice twist. he fainted and would have had the authorities called in, and perhaps found out.
This isn't true at all. He said he wasn't going to use the tape at a time when the tape was all that was available as evidence. Once Jimmy did all of the things you just noted he did, it proves he believes the tape to be real and incriminating. That gives the tape as evidence far more value in court than it did before.
If that wasn't the actual tape, then the real one would certainly be back on the table, I'd think.
The problem with that is there's no way to prove the intent. We (the viewers) and the characters know that was the actual intent, but I don't recall Jimmy explicitly saying that. I thought most of what he said was incredulity about being taped... not admitting whether the statements on the tape were true or false. I could be wrong though about what he said. I'll have to watch that scene again.
The problem with that is there's no way to prove the intent. We (the viewers) and the characters know that was the actual intent, but I don't recall Jimmy explicitly saying that. I thought most of what he said was incredulity about being taped... not admitting whether the statements on the tape were true or false. I could be wrong though about what he said. I'll have to watch that scene again. [/quote]
Considering that the scheme Chuck dreamed up to corner Jimmy in the first place was pretty far-fetched, I'm thinking they might be playing fast and loose with the legalities here.
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This isn't true at all. He said he wasn't going to use the tape at a time when the tape was all that was available as evidence. Once Jimmy did all of the things you just noted he did, it proves he believes the tape to be real and incriminating. That gives the tape as evidence far more value in court than it did before.
If that wasn't the actual tape, then the real one would certainly be back on the table, I'd think.
The problem with that is there's no way to prove the intent. We (the viewers) and the characters know that was the actual intent, but I don't recall Jimmy explicitly saying that. I thought most of what he said was incredulity about being taped... not admitting whether the statements on the tape were true or false. I could be wrong though about what he said. I'll have to watch that scene again.
Or it could be viewed as Jimmy getting very upset with his brother that he is trying to take care of, and all he wants to do is bring his own brother down no matter what.