Pretty scathing sendup of the Jackson NYK era.
"When asked at his end-of-year talk what he liked from KP this season, Jackson said, in part, that he was proud of a game in which Porzingis didn’t take a 3 because “they’re a cheap way to get points.” WHY DON’T YOU WANT YOUR TEAM GETTING CHEAP POINTS, JACKSON?"
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In 3 years, he has yet to make a good trade. What Phil is supposed to be good at is coaching and developing a strong culture. That has been a disaster. For all his bullshit talk about system basketball and the triangle, none of it is reflected on the court. And defensively they couldn't be much worse. Blame Melo all you want, but there's plenty of teams who build good defenses with one below average defender in the lineup. Also, I'm not sure another team in the league could make KP disgruntled after 2 seasons, but Jackson has achieved that.
There is no doubt that Phil knows basketball. But his downfall is his lack of work ethic, arrogance and stubbornness. He has every excuse in the book for his failures and doesn't learn from his mistakes. And most importantly, he refuses to adapt and evolve. His comments about 3 pointers and screen and roll are idiotic and show you the game has passed him by.
What are Pat Riley and Gregg Popovich's systems? They both have tailored and changed their system to their rosters. They learn and adopt and win because of it. Jackson cares more about proving the triangle can work and receiving credit than actually winning games.
BRAVO!!! Well said.
In 3 years, he has yet to make a good trade. What Phil is supposed to be good at is coaching and developing a strong culture. That has been a disaster. For all his bullshit talk about system basketball and the triangle, none of it is reflected on the court. And defensively they couldn't be much worse. Blame Melo all you want, but there's plenty of teams who build good defenses with one below average defender in the lineup. Also, I'm not sure another team in the league could make KP disgruntled after 2 seasons, but Jackson has achieved that.
There is no doubt that Phil knows basketball. But his downfall is his lack of work ethic, arrogance and stubbornness. He has every excuse in the book for his failures and doesn't learn from his mistakes. And most importantly, he refuses to adapt and evolve. His comments about 3 pointers and screen and roll are idiotic and show you the game has passed him by.
What are Pat Riley and Gregg Popovich's systems? They both have tailored and changed their system to their rosters. They learn and adopt and win because of it. Jackson cares more about proving the triangle can work and receiving credit than actually winning games.
Sure anyone can try. But the point is, is he REALLY building a winning culture and keeping all his assets? He's burned all bridges with Melo and will either end up getting rid of him for cents on the dollar, or he'll be stuck with him for a good while longer. He keeps insisting on a system that no one seems jazzed to play. The best player he's acquired (KP) is already disheartened and disenchanted. How does any of this help build a winning organization? If you're a half-decent free agent or vet, would you join this circus? (Of course, if you get Noah money, you might jump at it anyway.)
But this is all academic. Phil is merely the symptom of the disease. As long as Dolan is in charge, nothing is going to change, and as long as the money keeps piling in, he has no reason to.
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He should get credit for KP. He should get credit for Hernangomez who looks to be a solid starting caliber player. He should get credit for some of the young role players who may be able to contribute later on. He should get credit for trying to build a winning culture, but keeping all of his assets at the same time. Yes, anyone CAN do that, but nobody has done it for 20 years.
Sure anyone can try. But the point is, is he REALLY building a winning culture and keeping all his assets? He's burned all bridges with Melo and will either end up getting rid of him for cents on the dollar, or he'll be stuck with him for a good while longer. He keeps insisting on a system that no one seems jazzed to play. The best player he's acquired (KP) is already disheartened and disenchanted. How does any of this help build a winning organization? If you're a half-decent free agent or vet, would you join this circus? (Of course, if you get Noah money, you might jump at it anyway.)
But this is all academic. Phil is merely the symptom of the disease. As long as Dolan is in charge, nothing is going to change, and as long as the money keeps piling in, he has no reason to.
I can't stand Dolan but how is it his fault ? This is on Phil. He's being paid 3 to 4 times as much as any other exec in the league. The guy won't even scout in person. The only thing I blame Dolan for is not firing Phil.
Why not dangle that type of package at Presti, Uriji or Buford? Guys that have actually proven to build winning teams.
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He should get credit for KP. He should get credit for Hernangomez who looks to be a solid starting caliber player. He should get credit for some of the young role players who may be able to contribute later on. He should get credit for trying to build a winning culture, but keeping all of his assets at the same time. Yes, anyone CAN do that, but nobody has done it for 20 years.
Sure anyone can try. But the point is, is he REALLY building a winning culture and keeping all his assets? He's burned all bridges with Melo and will either end up getting rid of him for cents on the dollar, or he'll be stuck with him for a good while longer. He keeps insisting on a system that no one seems jazzed to play. The best player he's acquired (KP) is already disheartened and disenchanted. How does any of this help build a winning organization? If you're a half-decent free agent or vet, would you join this circus? (Of course, if you get Noah money, you might jump at it anyway.)
But this is all academic. Phil is merely the symptom of the disease. As long as Dolan is in charge, nothing is going to change, and as long as the money keeps piling in, he has no reason to.
No, he has not built a winning culture. He needed to burn the bridge with Melo so that Melo will want to leave(at least that's my belief). No, FA's wont want to join this circus but that's ok with me because I don't want them signging FA's. Build through the draft. When we start to get better, people will want to join.
Spot on about Dolan, I agree.
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He should get credit for KP. He should get credit for Hernangomez who looks to be a solid starting caliber player. He should get credit for some of the young role players who may be able to contribute later on. He should get credit for trying to build a winning culture, but keeping all of his assets at the same time. Yes, anyone CAN do that, but nobody has done it for 20 years.
Sure anyone can try. But the point is, is he REALLY building a winning culture and keeping all his assets? He's burned all bridges with Melo and will either end up getting rid of him for cents on the dollar, or he'll be stuck with him for a good while longer. He keeps insisting on a system that no one seems jazzed to play. The best player he's acquired (KP) is already disheartened and disenchanted. How does any of this help build a winning organization? If you're a half-decent free agent or vet, would you join this circus? (Of course, if you get Noah money, you might jump at it anyway.)
But this is all academic. Phil is merely the symptom of the disease. As long as Dolan is in charge, nothing is going to change, and as long as the money keeps piling in, he has no reason to.
I can't stand Dolan but how is it his fault ? This is on Phil. He's being paid 3 to 4 times as much as any other exec in the league. The guy won't even scout in person. The only thing I blame Dolan for is not firing Phil.
Why not dangle that type of package at Presti, Uriji or Buford? Guys that have actually proven to build winning teams.
But Dolan not firing Phil is the main problem at this point. if you're an owner, there comes a time you have to say, "This is a shit show" and take steps to improve things. Either Dolan is deluded enough to think that Phil is doing a satisfactory job, or he just doesn't care and enjoys having someone else around to take all the hits.
No doubt about it, MSG is very dysfunctional place. One of the ways that Sather was able to stick around for so long was that he would hide - literally hide - from Dolan. Its an ultra-messed up place and the fish absolutely stinks from the head down.
This. Like the triangle was why Jordan and Pippen were great.
It was never a guarantee, I think a lot of people understood that when it happened, but you certainly can't say Phil Jackson wasn't qualified to try the job when you consider what's going on in the NBA. There are also examples of things of this nature happening with other franchises and it IS working out. Hell, Daryl Morey wasn't a "basketball guy" but the Rockets have not had a losing record, in the Western Conference, since his time as General Manager.
How many years of coaching experience or teams built up from scratch does Jason Kidd have? He's doing okay for himself as a beginner coach. He was smart enough to leave another lousy franchise situation for one he could actually work with.
The problem is the Knicks. When you're a dysfunctional franchise that enables dysfunction from the top to the bottom, it's not a place that promotes success, encourages growth, or demands excellence. They barely demand accountability for anything.
He's the one that needs to hold people accountable. Phil's background definitely was qualified for the position, but he has proven in 3 years that he isn't capable of being a successful exec.
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a great exec. And to compound it, Jackson NEVER had to coach up a team from scratch. Bulls and Lakers were ready made to win. Zen Master my ass, he's just another full of shit ego maniac.
It was never a guarantee, I think a lot of people understood that when it happened, but you certainly can't say Phil Jackson wasn't qualified to try the job when you consider what's going on in the NBA.
Oh you can definitely say he wasn't qualified. No experience with the cap, running a draft, CBA minutia, hiring a head coach, etc. It's a completely different skillset compared to being a coach.
Huh? Morey had experience working in an NBA front office prior to running the Rockets.
I'd argue the leap from NBA player to coach is not as significant as the leap from NBA coach to GM/team president.