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So, Massachusetts voted to legalize recreational weed this past November.
Conversationally I mentioned to some of my buddies and hockey teammates that I was looking forward to this since I was thinking about taking up smoking weed.
Most were surprised, some felt like "that's what was holding you back all these years? that it was illegal"? Others felt like it was just strange.
I told my wife the same thing and she just thought I was joking and then just thought I was insane (as usual).
But when I thought about it, if alcohol were illegal most of my life I'd probably not drink so much. I might occasionally have had a drink in private (illegally like people did during prohibition) but I probably wouldn't regularly drink alcohol. I don't think as a teenager I'd have been drinking as early and as often, and I am pretty sure my adult drinking habits would be different.
Why should weed be different?
I was never a big smoker growing up, tried it a few times, and whatever didn't appeal to me. and I lived with some 24/7 wake and bake hard core weed users during and after college - I was just never seriously interested, but I'm willing to give it another shot.
For some reason, chilling out on the back deck summer evenings with a high ball of bourbon or scotch or vodka whatever I'm in the mood for that night and smoking a joint or hitting a weed pen seems appealing.
Would anyone else change their habits based on the legal status?
Love it. Good stuff.
Do it all the time coming home from MetLife during the football season
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Or adultery? Or vices in general. They're (some vices at least) legal but I'm not eager to partake. For some choices, legality is irrelevant.
I don't understand comments like this.
Cigarettes have cancer-causing carcinogens and chemicals in them. They're deadly. Marijuana is not. There's a HUGE difference.
And I have no idea what adultery has to do with smoking weed.
If you aren't interested in it, that's fine - it's not for everyone. But some of these comparisons are ridiculous and if you want to talk about irrelevance, well.. those comps fall right into that category.
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Or adultery? Or vices in general. They're (some vices at least) legal but I'm not eager to partake. For some choices, legality is irrelevant.
I don't understand comments like this.
Cigarettes have cancer-causing carcinogens and chemicals in them. They're deadly. Marijuana is not. There's a HUGE difference.
And I have no idea what adultery has to do with smoking weed.
If you aren't interested in it, that's fine - it's not for everyone. But some of these comparisons are ridiculous and if you want to talk about irrelevance, well.. those comps fall right into that category.
theyre all behavioral vices that people can make a value choice to do or not do and make the choice indepently of whether or not they are legal.
So are a billion other things that are completely unrelated. Not sure what point you're trying to make.
Of course for some choices legality is irrelevant, that's why I asked the question. I was specifically asking how legality would change people's behaviors FOR THIS ISSUE if at all. I even mentioned in the OP that some people's reaction was surprised that the legal status is the only thing holding me back. Some people I'm sure wouldn't be interested regardless.
And for some choices legality is relevant.
I liken it in some ways like I said in the OP to prohibition. While alcohol was banned I am sure that some people refrained from drinking. Others drank while it was illegal, and once prohibition was repealed I am sure some people enjoyed alcohol again.
But I think there needs to be more evidence that weed is indeed harmless. I've heard it's no worse than prescription drugs or alcohol, but color me skeptical. I just would like some more evidence.
If it was deemed harmless, then yeah, I would. I need it. I have a few health issues, including anxiety, and weed is supposedly beneficial towards dealing with them.
Just need to look around anakim.
Good to see Dave in Hoboken displaying his superior intellectual prowess above everyone here...
The not so common users/smokers whatever, that do it must do it out of a pure nostalgia thing, no? I work with some people who tell me they do it from time to time, whatever, but the friends who I went to high school with and got high a lot and made it "their way of life" into adulthood were the real annoying pot advocates that we all know and love, and eventually, just got caught up into other drugs. Then they unfortunately died.
To be honest, I forget it exists until someone mentions it because for years I choose not to be around people who do it, and it actually does remind me of the goofy idiot stoners from high school who still use it to this day and can’t give it up. They'd always question me why I never did it and how come, and this and that and I'd tell them man, if you're so confused why someone doesn't do something and such a life exists without your “recereational habit”, you must really have a fucking problem. If you are talking to me in person and can’t give up talking about how great pot is for five minutes straight, I’m probably going to walk away from you and stand next to bunch of strangers or a trash can instead.
Just need to look around anakim.
Good to see Dave in Hoboken displaying his superior intellectual prowess above everyone here...
True, but what about the long-term effects? I agree, more studies should be done and I think Dr. Gupta has investigated the pros and cons of it.
Nice to see you, by the way. You should post more.
The not so common users/smokers whatever, that do it must do it out of a pure nostalgia thing, no? I work with some people who tell me they do it from time to time, whatever, but the friends who I went to high school with and got high a lot and made it "their way of life" into adulthood were the real annoying pot advocates that we all know and love, and eventually, just got caught up into other drugs. Then they unfortunately died.
To be honest, I forget it exists until someone mentions it because for years I choose not to be around people who do it, and it actually does remind me of the goofy idiot stoners from high school who still use it to this day and can’t give it up. They'd always question me why I never did it and how come, and this and that and I'd tell them man, if you're so confused why someone doesn't do something and such a life exists without your “recereational habit”, you must really have a fucking problem. If you are talking to me in person and can’t give up talking about how great pot is for five minutes straight, I’m probably going to walk away from you and stand next to bunch of strangers or a trash can instead.
This kind of just sounds like a biased opinion based on people you've encountered. Not all people who smoke are like this.
It's the same thing as alcohol in that there are people who can go out, have a couple drinks and call it a night and people who get loaded on a regular basis and can't control themselves.
It doesn't need to be a "way of life" or mean that you're some sort of fuck up if you do it. I don't work while I'm stoned. I take care of my business and keep my priorities straight. Pot helps me relax and sleep better at night. I'm not looking to get obliterated or tell everyone else how high I can get.
There are annoying stoner bros out there for sure. There are also a lot of people who aren't like that at all and maintain full-time jobs and have their lives in order while still partaking in smoking every now and then or in their free time.
I'd continue to hang out with them throughout the years and think I would be left alone, and not get picked on. That never went well and I guess we all have things we regret in our youth. Haven't seen them since I was 21, after a bunch of botched reunions. I thought that kind of stuff would go away after high school but it was even worse outside the world. Who knows what they’re doing with their lives? I’m never on Facebook.
Don’t think I don’t know that side of the story either, lol. I’ve even heard the “Snoop Dogg and successful CEOs smoke weed, why not you?” arguments as well. My neighbors are potheads, if you’ve been in or around Little Egg Harbor, you’ve probably bought weed from them. You’re right, they never bugged me once.
I've never been pressured to smoke weed in my life even when I lived with a couple guys post-college who smoked 24/7 and even sold it.
Alcohol definitely had more pressure, tons of it from the time i was 12 or 13 years old.
if someone offered weed and I said no, I never felt uncomfortable simply saying I'm not interested. And I never felt judged for that.
So, while I was able to acknowledge there were absolutely some slacker stoners there were also many mature "normal" people who smoked weed and basically anything I've ever done or not done in my life has been my decision (or done out of pursuit of a female - but still kind of my choice).
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More and more evidence is being produced. It's out there and it'd be even better if the schedule 1 designation was removed.
Just need to look around anakim.
Good to see Dave in Hoboken displaying his superior intellectual prowess above everyone here...
True, but what about the long-term effects? I agree, more studies should be done and I think Dr. Gupta has investigated the pros and cons of it.
Nice to see you, by the way. You should post more.
Again like I said, the studies are coming. Long term ones have been done before too. But in general much has been limited because of schedule 1.
One thing is for sure, I don't need studies to tell me weed ought to be on the same legality of alcohol and cigarettes rather than linked to fucking heroin. That's just common sense.
Good to see you as well and I hope all is well with you, but you won't see me posting unless it's mets or current events stuff like this. And given the state of our Mets right now, well.....
It was not my drug of choice so never got into it. Unfortunately my choice drug got me into many issues with the law when I was younger.
I am now 46 have not thought about a drug for at least 25 years and never will. I personally don’t get the need for people my age using it but respect their choice providing they are not breaking the law.
Also, my dad committed adultery and smoked weed, and the adultery was infinitely worse than the smoking. The smoking isn't even on the fucking radar. That parallel is fucking stupid and totally off base.
And Route 9 must have some weird fucks in his background. Most of the stoner types I know didn't get into harder drugs at all. Even the dealers I know are more carefree types than ones who'd try to make you smoke a bowl.
And, idiot's question isn't a good one. Murder is defined as an illegal act of killing, so murder is by definition illegal. Also, using the british spelling of legalization should be an automatically bannable offense. FOH with that.
Sorry, just wake and baked in the garage. 40 year old, father of 2, professional, daily user, lover of all strains, DaVinci ascent vaper, ABV edibles. I smoke before most Giants and Islanders games for pain management. Lol
Sorry, just wake and baked in the garage. 40 year old, father of 2, professional, daily user, lover of all strains, DaVinci ascent vaper, ABV edibles. I smoke before most Giants and Islanders games for pain management. Lol
lol.
You're killing my buzz, meahn.
Seriously though, toke on brahman.
Haven't bought in a while (a few years). With finals for my master's these next couple weeks, I could use some respiration-inspiration...
2) I didn't know pot helps with sleep. I've had sleep issues for years and been on and off all kinds of shot. I currently take Remeron which helps but leads to a god awful AM grogginess. I'm trying to get Nuvigil to help, but the insurance company is denying pending appeal.
I never asked about Pot, living in VA I wonder if I could get it legally since my doctor is not instate?
I did know pot helps IBS, which I have.
2) I didn't know pot helps with sleep. I've had sleep issues for years and been on and off all kinds of shot. I currently take Remeron which helps but leads to a god awful AM grogginess. I'm trying to get Nuvigil to help, but the insurance company is denying pending appeal.
I never asked about Pot, living in VA I wonder if I could get it legally since my doctor is not instate?
I did know pot helps IBS, which I have.
Sounds like it would help. There are many different types thing so if you don't like one, I'd try another strain or two to see if they're any better
I've never been pressured to smoke weed in my life even when I lived with a couple guys post-college who smoked 24/7 and even sold it
if someone offered weed and I said no, I never felt uncomfortable simply saying I'm not interested. And I never felt judged for that.
Smokers are friendly overall than drinkers imo. They won't pressure you to do it but they'll always offer
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1) I had no idea pot was now LEGAL in Mass for recreation.
2) I didn't know pot helps with sleep. I've had sleep issues for years and been on and off all kinds of shot. I currently take Remeron which helps but leads to a god awful AM grogginess. I'm trying to get Nuvigil to help, but the insurance company is denying pending appeal.
I never asked about Pot, living in VA I wonder if I could get it legally since my doctor is not instate?
I did know pot helps IBS, which I have.
Sounds like it would help. There are many different types thing so if you don't like one, I'd try another strain or two to see if they're any better
So my GI doctor is in VA; my sleep doctor in DC; how do I go about getting a prescription?