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NFT: 7/7 Brewers (48-40) @ Yankees (44-39) 7:05 PM

EddieNYG : 7/7/2017 5:20 pm
1 Brett Gardner CF
2 Chase Headley 3B
3 Aaron Judge RF
4 Gary Sanchez DH
5 Didi Gregorius SS
6 Clint Frazier LF
7 Ji-Man Choi 1B
8 Austin Romine C
9 Tyler Wade 2B

P Jordan Montgomery LHP

C'mon Bronx Bombers, let's win a series against a first place team and head into the All-Star break feeling better about themselves than they do now!

Let's Go Yankees!
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When we're as good and deep as they are, it won't happen to us either.  
yatqb : 7/7/2017 10:58 pm : link
But when you have Bird, Castro, Holliday and Hicks out of the lineup at the same time, with Ellsbury out for a part of that time, with Headley our only option at 3rd, and with the SP AND BP issues we've had this year, you're gonna lose a bunch of games.

All of us HAD to know that our pitching was our Achilles heel this year. Well, with CC's injury and Pineda reverting to form it finally fell off the cliff.

That's the team we have. It's got it's share of weaknesses. Not like the Astors, Dodgers, Sox or whomever.
Headley shits his pants.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 7/7/2017 11:05 pm : link
- double play
- strikeout
- strikeout
- foul pop-up
RE: Headley shits his pants.  
bigbluehoya : 7/7/2017 11:06 pm : link
In comment 13522855 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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- double play
- strikeout
- strikeout
- foul pop-up


back to the 5-slot he'll go
At what point is Clip Joint sent down?  
B in ALB : 7/7/2017 11:49 pm : link
Why did Binders leave him in so long?

Wtf is going on?

And does anyone else notice how Clip Joint shows his grip in the glove to CF? You can clearly see him grip either the FB or the change. I mean, I can see it from the 60" TV. There's no doubt other teams see it as well.

And Head Case batting 2nd? Meanwhile, didn't Binders bat ARod 8th at one point?
Who would you rather see in a tie game?  
B in ALB : 7/7/2017 11:50 pm : link
Greene or Clip Joint?

Come on.
RE: At what point is Clip Joint sent down?  
Kyle in NY : 7/8/2017 12:05 am : link
In comment 13522863 B in ALB said:
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Why did Binders leave him in so long?

Wtf is going on?

And does anyone else notice how Clip Joint shows his grip in the glove to CF? You can clearly see him grip either the FB or the change. I mean, I can see it from the 60" TV. There's no doubt other teams see it as well.

And Head Case batting 2nd? Meanwhile, didn't Binders bat ARod 8th at one point?


That was Torre. In a playoff game. So bad.

But I'm pretty fed up with Girardi at this point. Said this the other day, he's done a good job with some really weak rosters the last few seasons. But I wonder if he starts to get stale. He's had a brutal last month

The devotion to guys like Headley and Clippard is hard to understand. To stretch Clippard to 36 pitches there is just having such a poor feel for the situation.

He's slow to trust certain players while other veterans get a really long leash. Makes me wonder if he's the right guy to lead what will be a very young team coming up.

Other team makes 5 errors and you get still get blown out. Come on
Flaherty was even critical of Girardi on the YES postgame.  
bceagle05 : 7/8/2017 12:11 am : link
Usually those orders come from up top - I wonder if the suits are a little down on Binders?
RE: When we're as good and deep as they are, it won't happen to us either.  
Mike Graves : 7/8/2017 12:22 am : link
In comment 13522851 yatqb said:
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But when you have Bird, Castro, Holliday and Hicks out of the lineup at the same time, with Ellsbury out for a part of that time, with Headley our only option at 3rd, and with the SP AND BP issues we've had this year, you're gonna lose a bunch of games.

All of us HAD to know that our pitching was our Achilles heel this year. Well, with CC's injury and Pineda reverting to form it finally fell off the cliff.

That's the team we have. It's got it's share of weaknesses. Not like the Astors, Dodgers, Sox or whomever.



Castro and Halliday were healthy when the Yankees went 1-6 on the west coast then went 2-4 the next home stand so 3-10 in those games so take the injury excuse somewhere else,
That's right Kyle  
B in ALB : 7/8/2017 12:31 am : link
The absurdity confuses me. Among other things.
RE: RE: When we're as good and deep as they are, it won't happen to us either.  
yatqb : 7/8/2017 1:14 am : link
In comment 13522874 Mike Graves said:
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In comment 13522851 yatqb said:


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But when you have Bird, Castro, Holliday and Hicks out of the lineup at the same time, with Ellsbury out for a part of that time, with Headley our only option at 3rd, and with the SP AND BP issues we've had this year, you're gonna lose a bunch of games.

All of us HAD to know that our pitching was our Achilles heel this year. Well, with CC's injury and Pineda reverting to form it finally fell off the cliff.

That's the team we have. It's got it's share of weaknesses. Not like the Astors, Dodgers, Sox or whomever.




Castro and Halliday were healthy when the Yankees went 1-6 on the west coast then went 2-4 the next home stand so 3-10 in those games so take the injury excuse somewhere else,


And clearly that was Girardi's fault. Not the talent level of the team. Someone always has to be to blame, and it must be Girardi.

I'm not a Girardi apologist or critic, but I think that most of us KNEW that this team's start was a wonderful and unexpected thing. It was unexpected in part because no one knew that Judge, Castro, Hicks, Pineda and CC would perform so well early on. But the shit hit the fan, and the pitching went to shit, even BP pieces who had been reliable in the past. And the Yanks and Girardi threw anything they could at that problem, and nothing worked. Starters like Cessa, Pineda, even Tanaka, pitched poorly, and they AND our good kid starters often didn't go deep enough into games to protect a tired BP, and we regressed to the mean.

Anyone who thinks that this pitching staff is playoff level is deluding themselves. That's why I believe that Girardi is the least of this team's troubles, and pitching talent and injuries are it's prime problems.
I gave Girardi  
mattnyg05 : 7/8/2017 6:20 am : link
the benefit of the doubt (injuries, subpar play) until tonight. It started with batting headley second... I don't care about his on base percentage he sucks. This is not just a scenario where a guy has a bad game and the fans rip him, he has a bad game every game for 4 years.

It's astonishing to me that we're completely afraid to try something new because he's a "good fielder" (despite many dogshit throws and a bunch of Es this season) and a "great clubhouse guy" (so sit him on the fucking bench, he'll still be in the clubhouse!).

I don't care if Andujar has hands of stone and hits .120, you'll at least find out sooner or later what you have. One out of every 20 times Headley comes up in a big spot does he come through. He has to go. He needs to get Carter'd. And the team shouldn't care if that makes him sad. I know there are limited options and everyone is injured, I get it, but you can't keep trotting him out there when for stretches of time, he hits .000. Can't happen.
You advance metrics folks should have loved Headley batting second  
HomerJones45 : 7/8/2017 12:01 pm : link
Kay said during the pre-game that his OBP against RHP was something like .378. Outside of Judge and Sanchez, there isn't much to go on with this lineup so he tried getting his high OBP guys on ahead of Judge and Sanchez. That was the theory anyway.
RE: I gave Girardi  
HomerJones45 : 7/8/2017 12:02 pm : link
In comment 13522893 mattnyg05 said:
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the benefit of the doubt (injuries, subpar play) until tonight. It started with batting headley second... I don't care about his on base percentage he sucks. This is not just a scenario where a guy has a bad game and the fans rip him, he has a bad game every game for 4 years.

It's astonishing to me that we're completely afraid to try something new because he's a "good fielder" (despite many dogshit throws and a bunch of Es this season) and a "great clubhouse guy" (so sit him on the fucking bench, he'll still be in the clubhouse!).

I don't care if Andujar has hands of stone and hits .120, you'll at least find out sooner or later what you have. One out of every 20 times Headley comes up in a big spot does he come through. He has to go. He needs to get Carter'd. And the team shouldn't care if that makes him sad. I know there are limited options and everyone is injured, I get it, but you can't keep trotting him out there when for stretches of time, he hits .000. Can't happen.
Talk to the GM. He said Headley was his third baseman.
Joe loves headley  
mattnyg05 : 7/8/2017 2:24 pm : link
As much as cashman does
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