Damn... Sucks to be a Lions fan.
“I was stuck in my contract with Detroit, and they told me, they would not release my contract, so I would have to come back to them,” Johnson said, via ESPN. “I didn’t see the chance for them to win a Super Bowl at the time, and for the work I was putting in, it wasn’t worth my time to keep on beating my head against the wall and not going anywhere.” |
That means the Lions had one of the greatest running backs ever, Barry Sanders, and one of the greatest receivers ever retire at least in part because of the franchise’s ongoing futility. Johnson won zero playoff games in his career and Sanders won one. That win Sanders was part of, at the end of the 1991 season, is Detroit’s only playoff win since 1957. In the 51-year Super Bowl era the Lions have won three division titles, and none since 1993. |
Calvin Johnson finally admits he retired in part because the Lions stunk - (
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Yeah. Somehow they never really hit my futility radar, but WOW.
I was about to comment how it's insane Johnson never won a single playoff game... and then when you put it in those terms it makes the CJ figure look like nothing.
I mean... wow.
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That is absolutely insane that they only have 1 (!) playoff win in 60 years.
Yeah. Somehow they never really hit my futility radar, but WOW.
Ha, same here.
But the reality and more damning way of putting it is: "They haven't won a single playoff game in 60 years."
Jesus.
But the reality and more damning way of putting it is: "They haven't won a single playoff game in 60 years."
Jesus.
If i'm reading it correctly, they won the one playoff game in 1991.
Ha, ok.
Only one playoff victory in 60 years is nutz! And I thought the Browns have it rough.
Too bad he got stuck with Detroit.
Non-PI Call --> Dez non-catch --> fumbled onside kick and crazy comeback --> Pass at goal instead of Marshawn
he never did shit ... who's the wide receiver with the single season yardage record?
Megatron per game production > jerry rice ... on these aforementioned garbage teams (but yeah, him retiring made them better ...)
1300 and 12 on a winless team with no help on offense ... routinely beats double/ triple coverage ...
oh, and a skill set that pairs 4.3 speed with size/vert/broad jump that puts him between 95-100th percentile ALL TIME at his position.
I know he wasted away it Detroit ... but his rare skillset and production that, per game, was better than the almighty jerry rice ... yeah, overrated. what a joke. if he was on the giants he would be a demigod on this site - as he should be.
imagine Engram 2 inches taller, faster, slightly heavier, with a vertical/broad jump that's borderline superhero territory
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This might be one of the dumbest posts I've ever seen on BBI.
Par for the course for the poster, but even outrageous by his extremely low standard.
Rice had a 10 year stretch where he scored fewer than 10 TDs once...and the one year he didn't he scored 9. Check out the his Pro Football Reference page...if you tried to print it out you'd run out of ink there is so much bold type.
Jerry Rice is, unquestionably and indisputably, the greatest receiver to play the game. The next guy, whoever it is, isn't even close. Titles, numbers, big game performances, longevity...it's all there in a way that only one or two players in the history of the sport at any position can claim.
I was a big Calvin Johnson fan, but he's nowhere near Rice's class.
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151 receptions
2245 yards
22 TDs
In the Super Bowl:
4 games
33 receptions
589 yards
8 TDs
Here are his four Super Bowl performances broken out:
XXIII: 11/215/1 (MVP)
XXIV: 7/148/3
XXIX: 10/149/3
XXXVII: 5/77/1
I don't think he's the very best player ever, but someone saying that he is wouldn't be crazy to say it. Anyone that said the same for Calvin Johnson would be laughed at.
Irony of this thread, he retired because his teams were garbage ... but let's knock his longevity. Silly Calvin chose to walk away in his prime with the ability to walk and a brain that still had cognitive function - rather than of his stats. I wonder how he'd do with 2 hall of fame QBs throwing him the ball ...
blah blah blah - Calvin Johnson was an incredible talent.
Very similar to a guy on this team who just played his first playoff game@ age 24 and put up similar numbers. Yet, for some reason, half the fan base already decided that he can't handle the spotlight.
4/45/0
3/48/0
3/28/0
If you want to take longevity out of it, fine. Compare Johnson's 9 years in the NFL to the first 9 years of Rice's career:
CJ: 731/11619/83
JR: 708/11776/118
Who is more productive then? Consider also that Rice only started 4 games his rookie season and had another 4 games taken away from him by strike in his third season (a season in which he put up 65/1078/22 in 12 games).
It sounds like, by pointing to production per game, you are penalizing Rice for the incredible longevity of his career...because his later years only serve to lower his per game averages down to Johnson's level.
Very similar to a guy on this team who just played his first playoff game@ age 24 and put up similar numbers. Yet, for some reason, half the fan base already decided that he can't handle the spotlight.
I'm not sure there is anything ironic about that. You may want to stick to your tired "Better trade Beckham" jokes.
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Boy, that's rich coming from you....
Johnson is more gifted ... and had way less talent around him to get him into those "meaningful games"
Sorry I know this is a Detroit lions shit franchise thread. Love talking about Rice's career. Fans that didn't see him play since early on were cheated. To me, in no particular order it's Jim Brown, LT and Rice. Holy trinity of NFL non qb players.
Which is why I think it's crazy to put too much stock in a 1 game sample... and many here did that and have been doing it since January.