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ESPN NFCE Beat: Who Will Win The Division?

gidiefor : Mod : 7/14/2017 12:03 pm
The Cowboys (Todd Archer), Redskins (John Keim), Eagles (Tim McManus), and Giants (Jordan Raanan) ESPN Beat writers seem to be split between Dallas and New York...

Three of them say both the Cowboys and the Giants make the playoffs

Who will win the division?
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Dallas' defense took a big step back, and I'm not sold on Dak.  
732NYG : 7/14/2017 12:15 pm : link
Meanwhile, I think we improved in most if not all areas.
All reasonable  
AnnapolisMike : 7/14/2017 12:15 pm : link
Giants and Dallas are the class of the division. But suspensions and injuries could let Washington slip into the mix. Giants catch a break with @Dallas being first game.
The giants arent losing 6 games this year  
ArcadeSlumlord : 7/14/2017 12:28 pm : link
We are the team to beat. I got 12-4.
All make good points  
weeg in the bronx : 7/14/2017 12:30 pm : link
Can't wait for the season to start. We blow out Dallas in that game too.
in my opinion, and its just my opinion, I think its  
PatersonPlank : 7/14/2017 12:34 pm : link
Giants 12-4
Cowboys 9-7
Skins 8-8
Eagles 5-11

I see the Cowboys trying to hold off the Skins, rather than trying to keep up with the Giants
If they stay healthy  
AnnapolisMike : 7/14/2017 12:47 pm : link
and it comes together I see the Giants with between 11 and 13 wins. 8 wins if 2016 Eli and Marshall carries into 2017 and the injury bug hits
My gut feeling is that Giants should be in good shape if  
Jimmy Googs : 7/14/2017 1:09 pm : link
they score more points than the other team during the season.

I think the Eagles are going to be much more  
gidiefor : Mod : 7/14/2017 1:14 pm : link
formidable than most are saying right now -- they added some weapons on Offense and they still have a very good D-Line. They are good enough to have a winning record if Wentz just improves slightly
2ndroundKO : 7/14/2017 2:02 pm : link
Do not sleep on the Eagles. They will be dangerous this year.
RE: in my opinion, and its just my opinion, I think its  
SGMen : 7/14/2017 2:22 pm : link
In comment 13528227 PatersonPlank said:
Giants 12-4
Cowboys 9-7
Skins 8-8
Eagles 5-11

I see the Cowboys trying to hold off the Skins, rather than trying to keep up with the Giants
I had the Giants at 11-5, but mostly because of our tough schedule and such. Dallas 11-5 but we get the tie-breaker over them.
But if we get off to that 5-0 start that I'm believing in as we are a veteran team without many changes, well, 12-4 and the division is easily within reach.
So hard to guess this early. After the 4th pre-season game, when we know the lineups & injuries, we can predict for fun.
MTN-G-man : 7/14/2017 7:02 pm : link
already told you.
RE: in my opinion, and its just my opinion, I think its  
OC2.0 : 7/14/2017 7:17 pm : link
In comment 13528227 PatersonPlank said:
Giants 12-4
Cowboys 9-7
Skins 8-8
Eagles 5-11

I see the Cowboys trying to hold off the Skins, rather than trying to keep up with the Giants

Philly isn't bad enough to lose 11 games, imo
annexOPR : 7/14/2017 7:19 pm : link
will be better than Dallas this year

better defense, good OL, added a lot to their WR corp ... if wentz develops, they could be a problem
I have no idea what comes out of philly in 2017  
djm : 7/14/2017 9:03 pm : link
..not sold on wentz but he needed better receivers than he had in 2016. Still not 100% conviced the offensive play makers in philly are great but they aren't bad that's for sure. Jeffrey is a big key. Running game?

Skins won't suck. Dallas will be good. How good? Giants will be good. How good? I think if you played the 2017 season out 10 times with injury luck being equal you would have NYG and Dallas winning the east more often than not.

I'll always go with the better defensive team. Dallas was better last year but not by very much and the Giants matched up well with Dallas. They still match up well with Dallas and they closed the gap even if by just a little bit this offseason. I think the giants are the best team in the east. Still gotta go out there and take it.
I feel Dallas takes a major step back  
George from PA : 7/14/2017 11:03 pm : link

Injuries and the schedule are my biggest concerns
annexOPR : 7/15/2017 11:32 am : link
now has Ertz, Alshon, Smith at his disposal - with Mathews in the slot

That crew is light years better than the garbage he had last year ... their OL is solid ... and the defense has some great talent

Nothing about Dallas "scares" me - and their defense, especially week 1, is barely NFL caliber
BigBlueShock : 7/15/2017 12:13 pm : link
We can't formulate an accurate opinion until our two Dallas homers show up with their completely unbiased opinions
I have ben panning Dallas on BBI  
idinkido : 7/16/2017 9:01 am : link
I have even suggested that dallas will have a sub .500 record. What I do like about Dallas is Elliot because he is a complete back and is possibly the best pass blocker
RB in the NFL East. Dallas' O must be respected but their receivers are questionable, 2 OL positions are being filled by others, very little depth on O, and their D is devastated by personnel losses and suspensions and they have no pass rushers. So how anyone is predicting dallas as a contender is beyond me. This is a team game and lack of personnel in key positions is like a crater of disaster. Dallas can be set back by several years trying to rebuild that team.
It comes down to three things......  
Doomster : 7/16/2017 11:28 am : link
Injuries, the TE play, and our RB's.....

We have to stay injury free, because there is a huge drop off in talent to the backups....

As for the TE's, I am counting on them helping the OL with blocking......we know they are going to be a big part of the offense this year, unlike last year....but if they can help out the Tackles with effective chip blocks, and still be a presence in the passing game, it makes our offense so much better...

Perkins is basically given the job......but after that what do you have? Nothing really.....Gallman is a rookie....we have no idea if he can assimilate the play book, block for Eli, hold onto the ball, catch the ball, or limit his rookie mistakes...he will be on a learning curve that may not show fruit until the second half of the season.......Vereen can't carry the load as a RB.....Darkwa can't stay out there more than one series, and yet the Giants keep bringing him back.....I still believe we need another back.....
not sold on dallas  
BlackburnBalledOut : 7/16/2017 7:32 pm : link
they lost leary and free on that O line, they have basically a brand new secondary made up of primarily rookies and unproven players. their defense wont hold up if they cant run the ball dominantly and control the clock again.

dont think dak is a great qb. he did well with time and a great rushing attack, i dont see that happening again this season.

the eagles on the other hand may be better then projected. they have good receivers and a scary looking defensive front.

redskins are the redskins

i expect the giants to win the division by at least 2 games
So far in this thread, the Giants will  
Jimmy Googs : 7/17/2017 7:07 am : link
be in the playoffs
are elite team in the division
Will go 12-4
Could reach 13 wins
Will win the division by 2 games

Uh huh...
Giants do better as the underdogs  
Rudy5757 : 7/17/2017 10:36 am : link
seems like every time you think we will be great we take a step back. This division is going to be tight, no one is going to run away with it.

Dallas will probably take a little step back. OL change, could Zeke get a suspension, D looks like it took a step back. Dak is the biggest question mark. If he is the same as last year or better Dallas is in for a big season again. Their O wins games. If Dak is a 1 year wonder they probably are in an 8-8 season.

Giants seem to always be an up and down team. When you think they will win they lose, when you think they will lose they win. How big of a loss is Hankins on D? We basically stayed the same except for Hankins. On O it mostly comes down to OL play. Seems like we are running out the same cast of characters. If they dont improve we will be in that 8-11 win range. Already seeing the lingering injury with our new TE addition Ellison. If he is out for an extended time we have the same cast plus a rookie. Can he be dominant in the NFL? I would say the Giants are a 10 win team. The division is improved and we will probably get 3-4 wins in the division.

Eagles should be improved. The D will help the O, they improved at WR. Is Wentz the real deal, thats the question. If he is its a 3 team race. Either way we will probably split with them.

Washington is a team that could contend. I am not sold on Cousins. I think they can win with him but he needs more pieces. They can still get between 7-9 wins and always play us tough. The division games will be fun to watch this year.

I think the order is


with 2 or possibly 3 teams making the playoffs.
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