This is why I get so frustrated when so many discussions of out of control cops get distilled down to "police hate black people": that can be true in some cases, but there's much more going on here.
A 40-year-old woman who family members said called 911 to report a possible assault in the alley behind her home Saturday night was fatally shot by a Minneapolis police officer........Three sources with knowledge of the incident said Sunday that two officers in one squad car, responding to the 911 call, pulled into the alley. Damond, in her pajamas, went to the driver’s side door and was talking to the driver. The officer in the passenger seat pulled his gun and shot Damond through the driver’s side door, sources said. No weapon was found at the scene. |
This was a unarmed 40 year old white woman in her pajamas. By the standard of race as the sine qua non of police shootings, she should have been perfectly safe....and yet she gets blasted
from across the interior of a police car. That is, she was at the driver's side window and was shot by the cop in the passenger's seat. That's unbelievable.
Naturally, while the cops had body cameras, they were no filming. Of course they weren't.
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We should always be outraged when civilians are unnecessarily killed by cops.
It is a victimization narrative and quite frankly racist, sexist, isolationist, and divisive to make it a white cop / black man issue.
Umm, that's the story I linked.
I think there is probably a lot of racism within police forced (we hear about it from whisleblowers and people making complaints). But I suspect it is a symptom of a broader issue, the us against the civilians mentality that many cops take. The classic dick with a badge authoritarian personality type mixed with a bunker mentality and a high stress job.
Not all cops mind you. A lot of them are the grown up boy scout types, who are in it to help their community and do good.
It's a good question. Where can I find more info?
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Unexplained police killing yesterday, too (again with no cameras turned on).
Umm, that's the story I linked.
But now it's two incidents so it's a pattern
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NRA TV? Sponsored by Ruger? Seriously?
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says it better than I can, not just about police brutality, but about the media and race in general, the media prefers everything be a racial issue. this video might be political, but it's linked not posted so maybe it doesn't get the thread deleted. Link - ( New Window )
NRA TV? Sponsored by Ruger? Seriously?
It's a good video. he even says who paid for the video in the video for those who didn't read the opening credits, I listen to his radio show his podcasts, he's great.
Please tell me this is a joke.
I'm not going too far down this road because I'm on vacation, but a little bit of perspective helps. These incidents are awful, but they're also awfully rare. More people die in a bad holiday weekend in Chicago, or in the average evening from opiate overdose, than will die in a calendar year from truly disputed police shootings. Does that mean we shouldn't care? Of course not. But people want more from law enforcement, better clearance rates on those homicidea, more proactive efforts to get drugs off the streets, etc etc, and then express outrage when more police contact results in officer violence.
I think they're targeting a more intelligent audience than you, no offense.
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Not much of an improvement though.
I think they're targeting a more intelligent audience than you, no offense.
Well of there is one demographic the NRA is always going after it is the intelligentsia...
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Not much of an improvement though.
I think they're targeting a more intelligent audience than you, no offense.
I'm smart enough to know the reason they produce those videos.
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Not much of an improvement though.
I think they're targeting a more intelligent audience than you, no offense.
I'm smart enough to know the reason they produce those videos.
Sure you are. What's the reason?
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for those folks a few whites getting caught in the cross-hairs is a small price to pay for keeping blacks in-line.
Please tell me this is a joke.
Not a joke. Maybe not phrased the best but aggressive policing is supported by a lot of people who assume it will be largely directed at non-whites. A few cases of whites being impacted doesn't change their mind.
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Not much of an improvement though.
I think they're targeting a more intelligent audience than you, no offense.
Well of there is one demographic the NRA is always going after it is the intelligentsia...
It's like the old saying, the NRA is the Mensa of the mouthbreathers...
On the other hand, I have several friends in the police force, as was my god father (NYPD) before he was killed coming home from work. I know what it's like to wonder if they are coming home from work or worry about paying your bills for 3 kids when my godmother was widowed.
I don't have an easy answer, but I wish more people could try to perceive the situations from both sides.
Race plays a factor because cops are more likely to be afraid of a black man than pretty much any other demographic. It doesn't mean they hate black people. It means they are scared in that moment, and have been trained to react to fear with gunshots.
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Exactly you have no clue.
the video was created in response to national backlash to an NRA video where Dana Loesch speaks out about how the media tries to influence the public - especially on race issues.
it's relevant to this topic only to the point the media in general prefers issues to be racial because that makes it more controversial and it sells. Anything divisive sells.
What are the percentages of crimes/police altercations of each race? That needs to be taken into consideration.
This is a function more bad training, and subliminal subconcious learned biases (i.e. like locking the door when you see a black person).
There were a good book I read called "BLINK" which describes it very well.
The solution is a lot more of a concerted effort, recognition, and training.
It sounded, for instance, as if the cop in the Castile incident had post-shooting a Bavarofan sized piss stain drenching his uni.
This is deeply concerning and not okay.
One possible solution (to an admittedly extremely complicated & dynamic problem) is far more community policing. In urban/suburban areas, they should be walking around their beat x% of time so maybe they know Justine Damond or at least what constitutes a threat in a given community.
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Pjcas: it's important to keep in mind that Dana Loesch is a massive jackass. Effectively a profiteer...someone who deliberately constructs a self-righteous caricature in order to manufacture a career as a "commentator". It's working (as it has for Coulter et al) since she gets gigs, but again one should remember that she is positively awful.
It sounded, for instance, as if the cop in the Castile incident had post-shooting a Bavarofan sized piss stain drenching his uni.
This is deeply concerning and not okay.
One possible solution (to an admittedly extremely complicated & dynamic problem) is far more community policing. In urban/suburban areas, they should be walking around their beat x% of time so maybe they know Justine Damond or at least what constitutes a threat in a given community.
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Pjcas: it's important to keep in mind that Dana Loesch is a massive jackass. Effectively a profiteer...someone who deliberately constructs a self-righteous caricature in order to manufacture a career as a "commentator". It's working (as it has for Coulter et al) since she gets gigs, but again one should remember that she is positively awful.
I have no opinion of Loesch other than she's obviously more attractive than Coulter who looks like a skeleton with skin, but I did watch her NRA video about the media, and that's pretty much the first time I saw or heard anything about her and I felt like anyone finding offense or a racial divide with that video wanted to find offense or racial divide with the video.
(If hate fucking is one's thing, of course...)
(If hate fucking is one's thing, of course...)
Hate fucking?? WTF is wrong with you?