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And in keeping with what many of y'all are saying...if we think he sounds like a whiny bitch now, wait until the Jets are 2-6, while the Giants are 6-2 with Marshall playing good ball
Largely due to his age, but also because reports of his locker room issues swirled long before he was a NY Jet.
I lean toward optimism and a successful tenure with the Giants - especially since he's no doubt salivating at a long overdue playoff appearance - but it's far from assured given his history.
I don't think anyone should have any reason to believe that Brandon Marshall is going to be a locker room issue here. He's 33 years old now and it's clear that Richardson has some sort of bone to pick for whatever reason.
He's old now, still working pretty steadily. But now he's a character actor, working pretty much in supporting roles. Now he's said to be a joy to work with. Why is he so much easier to work with now than in the old days? "Because he can't ruin your movie," one industry insider has said.
Sounds familiar.
Outside of Richardson, who seems to have a hate for Marshall, he was looked on as a locker room leader for the Jets, and prior to that with Chicago.
Without any of us knowing exactly what the dynamic is with him and teammates, he sure seems like a guy who transitioned from a problem child to an elder statesman of sorts.
Eric Decker looked at him as a mentor, as did Alshon Jeffrey. Jay Cutler liked working with him, and Jay Cutler doesn't even seem to like apple pie or babies. Fitzpatrick also liked working with him. In the past 6 years, the only person who seems to not have worked well with him, strangely enough, is a DT.
I'd probably trust their words over that of a defensive player who has been a bit of a wild card off the field.
Is your evidence when he famously erupted in the Chicago locker room after a bad loss to Miami, which IIRC involved calling out his QB and screaming at the Giants' own ex kicker Robbie Gould?
Marshall himself expressed contrition for this so he obviously knew he was out of line.
If that's being a "locker room leader", then it's a pretty shitty one. Not exactly Brian Urlacher.
Can't remember any specific incidents on the Jets and maybe Richardson is needling him, but the pattern is established.
He's a great player and I hope he offers solid contributions to the Giants. But I regrettably don't feel as if it's a given (age factor, too).
So after watching the video of the Richardson video -- where he explicitly acknowledged (and distinguished the fact) that he has himself been a problem to the front office and off the field, I believe that there is some truth to his assertions, and believe that there is definitely some fire with this smoke.
During Marshall's appearance on ESPN's First Take, he didn't just prop up his current quarterback, Ryan Fitzpatrick, by handing him the #elite label. He also praised his ex-quarterback and BFF, Jay Cutler. In a callback to 2014 -- the peak of Cutler and Marshall's bromance -- Marshall declared on live TV that Cutler can win MVP this season.
Truly.
"I'll got out on a limb and say this again," Marshall started as Max Kellerman urged him to stop talking. "I truly believe if Alshon Jeffery stays healthy, and then you have Kevin White, if this rookie can come in and catch 55-plus balls, Jay Cutler can be MVP this year. I truly believe that."
Now one might question his judgement on Cutler being an MVP - but the two guys don't have a strained relationship. Maybe they are both so mercurial they get along.
The Chicago Tribune among others noted that a voice sounding like Marshall's could be heard shouting at his teammates in the locker room before the media was allowed in. A source told ESPN.com's Michael C. Wright that Cutler was at the center of the storm.
The veteran passer denied that, per NFL Media's Albert Breer, saying that Marshall "didn't come near me. He didn't say my name. I don't think he attacked anyone personally."
Said Cutler: "He's an emotional guy. Whenever he gets frustrated, he's going to get emotional most of the time. He's going to speak from the heart, and he's going to make sure everyone else around him hears him, so it wasn't anything that caught us off-guard or was off-putting."
It's worth noting that the pair are close friends off the field, with Cutler saying that he spoke directly with Marshall on Monday before the two enjoyed a productive practice session on Wednesday.
"He wants to win. ... I understand his frustration," said Cutler, telling the media that "Brandon wasn't the only one frustrated in the locker room. Brandon was probably just the only one you guys heard."
He's old now, still working pretty steadily. But now he's a character actor, working pretty much in supporting roles. Now he's said to be a joy to work with. Why is he so much easier to work with now than in the old days? "Because he can't ruin your movie," one industry insider has said.
Sounds familiar.
Hmm..
De Niro?..
"Stay away from the damn microphone, Sheldon"
Incidents between players happen in any locker room. I think they have little impact, maybe none on performance.
Nicolas Cage was another diva who was tough to work with.
Question: The Jets three top WRs in terms of combined career receptions
or this works too...
3 people that have never been in my kitchen
Unfortunately for their ability to get a franchise QB in the draft, they will probably need to throw games to get the record that they need.
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Outside of Richardson, who seems to have a hate for Marshall, he was looked on as a locker room leader for the Jets, and prior to that with Chicago.
Is your evidence when he famously erupted in the Chicago locker room after a bad loss to Miami, which IIRC involved calling out his QB and screaming at the Giants' own ex kicker Robbie Gould?
Marshall himself expressed contrition for this so he obviously knew he was out of line.
If that's being a "locker room leader", then it's a pretty shitty one. Not exactly Brian Urlacher.
Can't remember any specific incidents on the Jets and maybe Richardson is needling him, but the pattern is established.
He's a great player and I hope he offers solid contributions to the Giants. But I regrettably don't feel as if it's a given (age factor, too).
Way off base, IMO. First off, nobody should be taking what Sheldon Richardson is saying as fact. Richardson is a POS and clearly has a personal vendetta against Marshall. If there were other people in the lockeroom that were bad talking Marshall, maybe there is some smoke, but just this ahole means it's personal.
In regards to Marshalls past, he has come a long way from where he was as a young player. Obviously his mental struggle is well documented, but other than Richardson, he's gotten nothing but praise since then. He comes across as a great teammate and someone that his teammates respect and follow.
Physically, this idea that he can't still play at a high level is ridiculous. The Jets were a mess last year and the QB situation was brutal. He's a year removed 109-1500-14. If you are even slightly concerned about where this guy is physically, say that to yourself in your head.
109-1500-14
109-1500-14
109-1500-14
Fitzpatrick threw for 2700 yards and 12 TD's all season last year. Did Marshall all of a sudden fall off a cliff(NO) or was their QB/offense the reason he didn't produce like he did the year before when he went 109-1500-14!
Did he really "wear out his welcome" with the Jets? Or did they choose to move on because they clearly need to rebuild?
They let Decker go, too. I'm pretty sure there were no character issues there.
Sheldon Richardson having a hard-on for Marshall isn't any sort of proof that he wore out his welcome @ his last stop - I also feel quite certain he's not going to have any issues here, either.
De Niro?..
Nah. I don't think this is some big secret.
Guy turned 80 today. This article is 5 years old.
Dustin Hoffman: facing down my demons - ( New Window )
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Marshall wore out his welcome on three teams all of whom dumped him for less than what he was worth. He's 3 for 3. So don't fool yourselves. If everything goes well here, he'll be fine. If something bugs him- playing time, targets, some coach or player looks at him the wrong way, watch out. I fully expect his Giants days will make him 4 for 4.
Did he really "wear out his welcome" with the Jets? Or did they choose to move on because they clearly need to rebuild?
For the one trillionth time, the Jets tried to RE-SIGN Marshall and he declined their offer. They also tried to trade Richardson and Calvin Pryor, the 2 vocal critics of Marshall, during the offseason. There is plenty of evidence for this online for people who don't have an agenda. Arc, ignore the comment you responded to.