Collins says Granderson will play be the starter because he's "too hot" to sit. Mets give, Mets take away lol.
As I said in the other thread, only in Terry's warped mind is 3 for 17 in August "too hot" to sit. His refusal to give consistent reps to young players when the season is lost should cause him to be fired. Alas, ownership won't do that because it means they may have to pay money to him to not manage.
He said there was a knock from several scouts that Smith might be lazy and have a propensity to get out of shape. It's the first I'd heard...any truth to this?
He said there was a knock from several scouts that Smith might be lazy and have a propensity to get out of shape. It's the first I'd heard...any truth to this?
He said there was a knock from several scouts that Smith might be lazy and have a propensity to get out of shape. It's the first I'd heard...any truth to this?
Earlier in his career he had an issue with conditioning and diet. Gained a lot of weight in a hurry and had to work on that. Haven't heard anything since.
He said there was a knock from several scouts that Smith might be lazy and have a propensity to get out of shape. It's the first I'd heard...any truth to this?
No just the same stupid racist crap that Gavone has been spewing for the last 30 years. Cuz you know if a black guy is overweight, he must be lazy. Unless he plays for the Yankees. Then, he can firebomb orphanages and it's all good.
Still think he ends up in the pen next year barring a huge offseason.
Are Harvey and Boras going to allow the Mets to move him to the bullpen in the final year of his contract?
What can they do? He's on his rookie contract. They have no pull. I think Harvey will have a chance to compete for maybe one spot in the rotation in the spring. He'll be competing with about 5 other guys though. I think it's a good thing. It's what should have happened this year. We just had so many injuries it was ridiculous but in reality a few of those guys should have helped the pen.
I know, I know, not having a great year. But he had a solid July and I'm sure part of his lull this year is just being sick of the 110 degrees in Vegas. His errors at 2nd seem to be minimized and the last time we saw him he took Kershaw deep. Let's give him 6 weeks to see what he's got.
Smith is very heavy currently. This isn't an old story. He's currently carrying too much weight. Whether it effects his game is another story but scouts have mentioned it as recently as last week and photos confirm this. He's "fat"
He said there was a knock from several scouts that Smith might be lazy and have a propensity to get out of shape. It's the first I'd heard...any truth to this?
"Mets officials will be monitoring Smiths weight. The rotund Smith lost 24 pounds last offseason, but has gained much of it back in the last four months, according to sources, albeit not at the expense of his offensive production."
I saw him with my own eyes watching the 51's last week, he "looks" sloppy but hasn't impacted his hitting to this point. This isn't some Mets hating or racism, he's fat for an MLB player.
Does calling someone "fat" have to be clarified as not a "racist" comment.
Anyway, maybe Dom is packing on a few pounds, maybe there are just too many buffets in Vegas. I'm still excited for this kid. If he can stay within 20-25 pounds and not have it affect the way he hits the ball, feed the man.
Does calling someone "fat" have to be clarified as not a "racist" comment.
Anyway, maybe Dom is packing on a few pounds, maybe there are just too many buffets in Vegas. I'm still excited for this kid. If he can stay within 20-25 pounds and not have it affect the way he hits the ball, feed the man.
I assumed the not racism part was re lazy, not fat.
Mets apparently had a deal at the deadline sending Walker to the Yankees but the Yankees backed out citing medical concerns. I'd dump Walker and Grandy for "anything" right now. Open up AB's.
As for his body, my hope is that being around pros will rub off on him. Nothing like vets to show by example that if you want to stick around, you have to treat your body better.
a bit better than would expect once he gets moving (obviously not a stolen base threat), strong arm. Not many MLB players currently are built like him. Closer to Prince Fielder build than Ortiz but even then, Dom looks "soft", more like Cecil (not as big), Prince always looked like a linebacker to me.
As for his body, my hope is that being around pros will rub off on him. Nothing like vets to show by example that if you want to stick around, you have to treat your body better.
Or Ces will get him smoking. One or the other.
Young was extremely underrated as a 1b. Both he and Sean Casey were underrated due the era they played in. Young from 98-2007-117 OPS+ .295/.350/.488
RE: RE: I'd sign up for Young at the plate from Smith
As for his body, my hope is that being around pros will rub off on him. Nothing like vets to show by example that if you want to stick around, you have to treat your body better.
Or Ces will get him smoking. One or the other.
Young was extremely underrated as a 1b. Both he and Sean Casey were underrated due the era they played in. Young from 98-2007-117 OPS+ .295/.350/.488
I should clarify, not Young's PLAY at 1b. He was an awful fielder. But as a 1b in the era he played guy is underrated or was.
but someone wrote in the last few years about how terrible the MiLB player eats. Takeout fast food after games. It's so weird to me that Smith gained the fat back IN SEASON. Teams should be catering the MiLB teams with healthy food.
I compare this to all the writeups about the healthy fare at NFL training camps. In some ways baseball is still so backwards.
but someone wrote in the last few years about how terrible the MiLB player eats. Takeout fast food after games. It's so weird to me that Smith gained the fat back IN SEASON. Teams should be catering the MiLB teams with healthy food.
I compare this to all the writeups about the healthy fare at NFL training camps. In some ways baseball is still so backwards.
Mets, especially in PSL, are one of the better franchises at this actually.
Mets apparently had a deal at the deadline sending Walker to the Yankees but the Yankees backed out citing medical concerns. I'd dump Walker and Grandy for "anything" right now. Open up AB's.
Yankees leak within seconds. Twice. Mets get their 'revenge'.
but someone wrote in the last few years about how terrible the MiLB player eats. Takeout fast food after games. It's so weird to me that Smith gained the fat back IN SEASON. Teams should be catering the MiLB teams with healthy food.
I compare this to all the writeups about the healthy fare at NFL training camps. In some ways baseball is still so backwards.
One of the first things Gabe Kapler did in LA was change the food habits. Kapler likely won't take the job but he'd be high on my list as next manager. Really smart guy,
Really, REALLY bothers me that the Mets were really the first big city franchise to say we are going to revamp from top to bottom. Beginning they did it well. Then Chicago, LA, and cross town beat them to it and did it better.
ultimately his best tool is his ability to make contact, we know he doesn't have a traditional first base power upside, but if he can maximize that contact ability he should have enough power to do so some damage.
It can't be overstated how important these final 2 months are
for a franchise that rightly believes it can compete again next season. Moves will definitely need to be made however, and they only way to truly know what they are going to need is to see more of what the young guys can do.
give the Brewers Grandy/Walker at this point. I have a few "D-list" names I'd take (Wang, Perrin-good potential AAA/MLB rotation depth etc) but I'd like to see Nimmo get consistent ab's. Lets see if he's a reliable 4th OF. It's not just about being able to pinch hit etc. It's about being able to plug him in there for a week if someone is dinged. Lets find out.
He should play every day from here on out. If there is ANY value to sucking it's playing time for "question marks". Is Flores an every day guy? What is Nimmo? What is 2018 Lagares? Is Jamie Callahan a guy we can count on for 2018? etc
But I would be bummed if Smith turned into Dimitri Young. Young was an awful defensive player and outside of maybe one year, was a pretty crappy hitter. As a top 10 pick, I'm hoping for more out of Smith.
RE: RE: Flores has been hitting righties this year
He should play every day from here on out. If there is ANY value to sucking it's playing time for "question marks". Is Flores an every day guy? What is Nimmo? What is 2018 Lagares? Is Jamie Callahan a guy we can count on for 2018? etc
One of my all time favorite Mets at this point. I actually hope we can bring him back for the bench next year (something he has suggested he might be open to) but he can't be getting starts anymore this year. He just can't.
I'm not even a huge Moose fan. I think he is overrated, has started to decline, and will be an overpay but I think Sandy will want a calming, veteran presence over at 3B. It's been too long. I think Conforto eventually will move to a corner but he's young and can handle CF for a few years IMO.
1.) Conforto L
2.) Rosario R
3.) Mustakas L
4.) Cespedes R
5.) Bruce L
6.) Flores R
7.) Smith L
8.) TDA R
But I would be bummed if Smith turned into Dimitri Young. Young was an awful defensive player and outside of maybe one year, was a pretty crappy hitter. As a top 10 pick, I'm hoping for more out of Smith.
Dmitri Young was not a crappy hitter that is absurd. 10 year run of a .295/.350/.488-.838. On what planet is that "pretty crappy"? For comparisons sake Lucas Duda career .805 OPS. Jose Abreu has a .839 OPS, Matt Carpenter .841
Becerra .319 slugging%. He's going to be removed from the 40 man for sure. Not a big leaguer. His teammate Peter Alonso needs to be promoted already .364 with 2 homers and 8 walks over his last 10
we're all on the same page for rest of this season. Let's get Nimmo, Lagares, Flores, Rosario and Smith as many ABs as possible.
A Nimmo/Lagares CF platoon seems pretty enticing to me (if we used $$$ to upgrade elsewhere and signed another OF bat for depth) but let's see these guys stay healthy for a few months and play well before we can even begin to seriously contemplate it.
wouldn't be outrageous to suggest we could see Rosario/Guillorme up the middle to finish the season. We should see some promotions soon. Alonso to AA, Oberste to AAA, Guillorme replacing Rosario etc.
Flores can't hit 30 HR in full time duty with a wRC+ around 115-120? If Smith blows I could actually see Flo at 1B where his defense is a +.
I've railed against the Mets treatment of Flores since they began yanking him around the diamond and platooning him - criminal.
He and Mejia I cited as prime examples of the FO/MGR overthinking things. Mejia was clearly a starter IMO, but that ship has sailed.
Flores should be a lineup regular. He should start 150+ games. based on current personnel.
Between Flores, Conforto, Cespedes, Rosario and Smith (just those 5) the Mets should get enough offense (and power) at least two of the other 3 positions can/should be defensive-first additions.
So CF and 3B (if you assume Flores is 2B) and TDA holds his own offensively at C. And I get 3B is not normally a defensive position, it's a corner IF spot, but my grand plan is 2018 is a stop gap year where the Mets patchwork 3B until they can make a play for Machado and if they're not in on Machado, Machado being available could open up other 3B options.
we're all on the same page for rest of this season. Let's get Nimmo, Lagares, Flores, Rosario and Smith as many ABs as possible.
A Nimmo/Lagares CF platoon seems pretty enticing to me (if we used $$$ to upgrade elsewhere and signed another OF bat for depth) but let's see these guys stay healthy for a few months and play well before we can even begin to seriously contemplate it.
I wouldn't do it. Lagares/Nimmo are both beyond injury prone. Can't rely on those 2 as your starting "CF". It's not as if they have a CO in the minors who can step in if Conforto has to move back to CF. The cupboard is bare in terms of OF's.
context Nimmo has played 100 or more games.. ONCE in his career. Lagares has played more than 130 games twice (including once in the minors). Both should be viewed as potential 4/5th OF's for sure. Starting CF? Good luck.
is likely going to have to deal with knee issues for the remainder of his career. I'm just suggesting I think it would be a poor decision relying on these 2 are "regulars". Both can help the Mets if used correctly but the Mets need to learn from 2017 and not expect injury prone players to suddenly be healthy. Outside the box (and not the Mets way) but I'd love to call the Marlins and agree to take on money (Prado/Volquez who is out for the season) + talent (obviously) for Ozuna. Or a move LIKE that.
opposing team is promoting Harvey's rehab start lol
First glance of that picture, and it worried me...
It's actually extremely common for minor league teams to promote anything and everything to get a couple extra ticket sales. Virtually every road game Tebow has played all season has advertised that he's playing.
is likely going to have to deal with knee issues for the remainder of his career. I'm just suggesting I think it would be a poor decision relying on these 2 are "regulars". Both can help the Mets if used correctly but the Mets need to learn from 2017 and not expect injury prone players to suddenly be healthy. Outside the box (and not the Mets way) but I'd love to call the Marlins and agree to take on money (Prado/Volquez who is out for the season) + talent (obviously) for Ozuna. Or a move LIKE that.
The phillies supposedly tried to take both Yelich along with eating Stanton's money. Stanton's contract is rough but he's still really good. I Miami is waiting for new ownership before doing anything like that.
If you think my idea to sign Wade Davis will never happen, the Mets taking on a ton of dead money is just as unlikely IMO. I like your idea in a vacuum though. Ozuna is great.
is likely going to have to deal with knee issues for the remainder of his career. I'm just suggesting I think it would be a poor decision relying on these 2 are "regulars". Both can help the Mets if used correctly but the Mets need to learn from 2017 and not expect injury prone players to suddenly be healthy. Outside the box (and not the Mets way) but I'd love to call the Marlins and agree to take on money (Prado/Volquez who is out for the season) + talent (obviously) for Ozuna. Or a move LIKE that.
The phillies supposedly tried to take both Yelich along with eating Stanton's money. Stanton's contract is rough but he's still really good. I Miami is waiting for new ownership before doing anything like that.
If you think my idea to sign Wade Davis will never happen, the Mets taking on a ton of dead money is just as unlikely IMO. I like your idea in a vacuum though. Ozuna is great.
Oh I fully admit the Mets taking on significant money in a trade ie Volquez "dead" money etc is unlikely to happen. It's just the kind of thing I would look into if I ran the team. Ces/Ozuna/Conforto... drool.
struggled recently but-"I don't know if he's going to be a frontline guy; he's probably not going to be a star, but he can be a good player," said a Mets talent evaluator who has watched Nido this season.
Callahan, 22, is now the Mets No. 29 prospect, according to MLB.com. In the span of a couple days, he went from living in Pawtucket, Rhode Island, to moving across the country to Las Vegas.
Its bittersweet when youve been with an organization your whole career and you have a lot of friends, you know a lot of people and theyve been good to me and you find out that youve been traded and youre happy, youre excited, Callahan said. Its a great opportunity but at the same time youre kind of torn. Youve got your friends that youre leaving and youre heading to a new place and so its kind of bittersweet.
Though surprising, Callahan expressed a lot of excitement about the move.
Callahan joined the 51s during their longest homestand of the season and has some time to get acclimated to the city. Though he said he hasnt seen a lot more just the hotel he has been staying at, he did venture down to The Venetian.
It was like a little Italy. It was sick. I got to see the boats, Callahan said. Im from a small town in South Carolina. I was like Whoa. This is cool. Ive never seen anything like this before. Link - ( New Window )
But I would be bummed if Smith turned into Dimitri Young. Young was an awful defensive player and outside of maybe one year, was a pretty crappy hitter. As a top 10 pick, I'm hoping for more out of Smith.
Dmitri Young was not a crappy hitter that is absurd. 10 year run of a .295/.350/.488-.838. On what planet is that "pretty crappy"? For comparisons sake Lucas Duda career .805 OPS. Jose Abreu has a .839 OPS, Matt Carpenter .841
First, I said outside of one year (2007?) so maybe it's two.... but a career wRC+ of 112 from 1B with crappy D is not going to satisfy me. Depends on what you are talking about though. "Career Young" or "Peak Young"
not looking to get into a prolonged argument on a Friday about Dmitri Young. I said Smith reminded me of him offensively. I didn't say he's his clone. Young averaged 20 homers, 36 doubles over 162 and from 97-2005 averaged 16 homers and 30 doubles while hitting .291 with a .348 OBP. 1998 he had 48 doubles and 14 homers while hitting .310. He had a 4 season stretch where he hit .304/.353/.488 averaging 17 homers, 36 doubles and only 81 k's per season. If that kind of player is going to disappoint you then I would prepare yourself to be disappointed. I didn't say Smith can't outproduce Dmitri Young but to call him a crappy hitter who had 1 good season is flat out false I'm sorry.
If you're bringing up "4 year stretches" or even "10 year stretches" that explains your point better. If your looking more to what he did in his peak years.. great. I agree. My point was more about the whole. If Smith is a wRC+ 112 guy with crappy D I'm not going to be happy. That's all I was saying.
Flores can't hit 30 HR in full time duty with a wRC+ around 115-120? If Smith blows I could actually see Flo at 1B where his defense is a +.
I've railed against the Mets treatment of Flores since they began yanking him around the diamond and platooning him - criminal.
He and Mejia I cited as prime examples of the FO/MGR overthinking things. Mejia was clearly a starter IMO, but that ship has sailed.
Flores should be a lineup regular. He should start 150+ games. based on current personnel.
Between Flores, Conforto, Cespedes, Rosario and Smith (just those 5) the Mets should get enough offense (and power) at least two of the other 3 positions can/should be defensive-first additions.
So CF and 3B (if you assume Flores is 2B) and TDA holds his own offensively at C. And I get 3B is not normally a defensive position, it's a corner IF spot, but my grand plan is 2018 is a stop gap year where the Mets patchwork 3B until they can make a play for Machado and if they're not in on Machado, Machado being available could open up other 3B options.
I agree. I think Flores has earned the right to be an everyday player. I think he's better on the right side of the infield due to his erratic arm. I'd give him a real look at 2B and also let him platoon with Smith here and there.
to see if Harvey has enough time to come back and add some trade value. Teams inquired at the deadline.
How does the arbitration process work?
Are players like Harvey who were injured and awful guaranteed raises?
I believe Harvey is arb eligible this off-season so I'm curious if there is precedent to reduce salary in an arbitration case (should it even get that far) or if it's just mandatory for a salary increase.
to see if Harvey has enough time to come back and add some trade value. Teams inquired at the deadline.
How does the arbitration process work?
Are players like Harvey who were injured and awful guaranteed raises?
I believe Harvey is arb eligible this off-season so I'm curious if there is precedent to reduce salary in an arbitration case (should it even get that far) or if it's just mandatory for a salary increase.
Harvey is "guaranteed" a raise in the sense that I think there have been 3 arbitration reductions in the last 20-30 years (some crazy stretch like that) and while Harvey has been really bad, they use 3 years to judge players. How much raise is ?? but he'll make more in 2018 than he did in 2017.
Tommy Milone, on the DL since late May with a sprained knee, made his fourth start for Double-A Binghamton on Wednesday, allowing three runs over 5 2/3 innings.
Milone should be back in the mix for a spot in the Mets' rotation after one more start, though it'd be better if the Mets could stick him in middle relief instead. Overall, he has a 4.20 ERA and a 10/2 K/BB ratio in 15 innings in his rehab assignment.
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rolling with Flex and Montero until Harvey and thor come back. Flex doesn't look good up in MLB but it'll be a good learning experience for when he goes back to the minors.
Montero is a hard guy to figure out. He's missing bats at a close to elite level and cut down a bit on the BBs, but is still giving up a lot of hard contact.
Yankees offered nothing "substantial" and are playing games in the media. Link - ( New Window )
LOL, told you this wouldn't go over well
It's what I believed all along. The leaks were clearly coming from them and there was a "purpose" behind it. The Yankees quibbling over a million bucks and claiming they were giving us such a better package smelled like BS from the beginning.
Balls to the wall this offseason. What's his alternative? It's his walk year and he's a Boras client. Fatigue was one of the issues this year coming off TOS. I could see him dedicating the offseason to getting the arm back to peak condition. Not getting my hopes up but it wouldn't shock me either.
Balls to the wall this offseason. What's his alternative? It's his walk year and he's a Boras client. Fatigue was one of the issues this year coming off TOS. I could see him dedicating the offseason to getting the arm back to peak condition. Not getting my hopes up but it wouldn't shock me either.
Agreed except.... my hopes are up!
I'd like to see Lugo in the pen as the long man for the rest of the
Year. I think that's his eventual role. Flexen can take some lumps in Vegas. My rotation would be deGrom, Matz, Harvey, Gsellman, and Montero to close out the year.
I know everyone hates Montero and the results haven't been there but his stuff truly looks a million times better. He's been routinely hitting 95/96 mph. He had a nice little stretch going a few weeks ago. Keep running him out there.
We need to find answers (and mix in some veterans)
for CF, 2b and 3b. I'm going to be positive and assume for now that TDA can at least be decent. This also assumes obviously that they want MC in right every day, so Bruce is not an option.
Do they go with a Nimmo/Lagares platoon in CF and focus on bringing in Moustakas?
Do they bring in Cain for CF and leave Flo at 3b?
Regardless of what the Yankees say I'm still concerned about Walker's back and don't feel comfortable giving him a multi-year deal. Can TJ play 2nd? What are other options there?
I think there is so much youth that you really need at least one veteran acquisition to plug some of these holes.
Balls to the wall this offseason. What's his alternative? It's his walk year and he's a Boras client. Fatigue was one of the issues this year coming off TOS. I could see him dedicating the offseason to getting the arm back to peak condition. Not getting my hopes up but it wouldn't shock me either.
No clue if balls to the wall is even possible with Harvey, he could be one of a long line of pitchers who glimpsed greatness and flamed out like the Mark Prior's of the world. Baseball is littered with them.
Hope it's not the case with Harvey, but it very well could be.
Balls to the wall this offseason. What's his alternative? It's his walk year and he's a Boras client. Fatigue was one of the issues this year coming off TOS. I could see him dedicating the offseason to getting the arm back to peak condition. Not getting my hopes up but it wouldn't shock me either.
No clue if balls to the wall is even possible with Harvey, he could be one of a long line of pitchers who glimpsed greatness and flamed out like the Mark Prior's of the world. Baseball is littered with them.
Hope it's not the case with Harvey, but it very well could be.
Yeah. I'll head into the season with zero expectations, as I did this year. If he surprises? Great. He was still hitting 96 early in games this year so I find it hard to believe he wouldn't be passable in the pen even as a worst case scenario. I do think it's plausible a guy coming off TOS might have had some strength issues or "atrophy" or whatever. A full healthy offseason might help him.
And the backend of the contract probably will end up sucking... but I'd offer Yu Darvish 5 years and a 120 million. I have a feeling somebody like Lynn is going to cost almost as much. Darvish's age works against him.
I just don't see anyone in our rotation getting a big deal anytime soon. I don't have a problem paying one guy big money.
right now the 5 most interesting FA to me are Cain, Lucroy (I assume at this point he's gonna need to take a 1 year prove it deal) and 3 tier 2 relievers (McGee/Reed/Gregerson). Hard to envision any better candidates at their respective positions on the trade market and none should break the bank. Would love something creative like the Ozuna/Prado idea, just looking at the general baseball landscape there aren't very many catchers or centerfielders out there with more upside than Cain or Lucroy.
At best he would be a massive question mark coming into the spring and he would be competing with 4-5 other underwhelming candidates. Just doesn't seem like a fit for either party assuming he doesn't retire anyway.
He's 43 years old. If you can't find a pitcher you like that's younger than that, that's a bad job by the front office. They were lucky to get what they got out of him. The odds that he will still be effective going forward are even less now.
Why the hell is Salas still clogging a roster spot?
At best he would be a massive question mark coming into the spring and he would be competing with 4-5 other underwhelming candidates. Just doesn't seem like a fit for either party assuming he doesn't retire anyway.
a) they aren't paying Darvish
b) he's durable and don't look now but he's won his last 2 games in Min (4 era in 5 starts)
c) he likes it here and the pitching staff likes him
d) he'd be cheap and already been willing to shift to the bullpen (which other mid-tier starters wouldn't want to do)
At best he would be a massive question mark coming into the spring and he would be competing with 4-5 other underwhelming candidates. Just doesn't seem like a fit for either party assuming he doesn't retire anyway.
a) they aren't paying Darvish
b) he's durable and don't look now but he's won his last 2 games in Min (4 era in 5 starts)
c) he likes it here and the pitching staff likes him
d) he'd be cheap and already been willing to shift to the bullpen (which other mid-tier starters wouldn't want to do)
He's like our el duque.
Whether they pay Darvish or not has nothing to do with Colon. I'm pretty sure Wheeler and Harvey had two game stretches this year that were good also and they offer a lot more upside. It also doesn't matter if pitchers are willing to move to the pen or not. They are under contract and there are only so many spots. Some of our starters aren't going to have a choice. Sorry. Just don't see it.
1 week ago he had an ERA/FIP in the 3s in Vegas. Looks like he got touched up recently. You'd rather see Salas over somebody with a 3 era in Vegas all year?
I might have had that backwards. Apologies. It was during the broadcast the other night. Might have been in "save opportunities."
They cited a BS stat. He has a .88 era... in games where he records a save, any "okay" closer is going to have an extremely low era in games they record a save. His era closing out a game is 2.77.
1 week ago he had an ERA/FIP in the 3s in Vegas. Looks like he got touched up recently. You'd rather see Salas over somebody with a 3 era in Vegas all year?
I didn't even want Salas back so you are talking to the wrong guy. We will see Callahan shortly, McGowan will be a 40 man consideration so they may give him a look (he has SO bad this spring that they may have seen enough/not think much of him)
has a FIP over 4 and his ERA matches that. That's horrific for a late inning reliever. If he can't cut his BB/9 he's going to drive us nuts in big games next year.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Has anyone checked out Ramos's career
I might have had that backwards. Apologies. It was during the broadcast the other night. Might have been in "save opportunities."
They cited a BS stat. He has a .88 era... in games where he records a save, any "okay" closer is going to have an extremely low era in games they record a save. His era closing out a game is 2.77.
That's exactly what it was. 0.88. Thanks for the clarification. 2.77 is still aces for me.
has a FIP over 4 and his ERA matches that. That's horrific for a late inning reliever. If he can't cut his BB/9 he's going to drive us nuts in big games next year.
Career 2.85 ERA and 3.27 FIP. I'd trust the bigger sample. He's a fine setup man.
1 week ago he had an ERA/FIP in the 3s in Vegas. Looks like he got touched up recently. You'd rather see Salas over somebody with a 3 era in Vegas all year?
I didn't even want Salas back so you are talking to the wrong guy. We will see Callahan shortly, McGowan will be a 40 man consideration so they may give him a look (he has SO bad this spring that they may have seen enough/not think much of him)
My point was Salas needs to be gone and his spot needs to be given to a young guy. Who that is? I don't care.
just saying it's a silly stat to value if thats what they did. You aren't going to be recording saves with a high era in those games. It's nearly "impossible" to do.
me any closer that closed for any period of time and you will find extremely low era's in games they recorded a save. It's not my "opinion" it's just logic. Ricky Bottalico 1.03 era when recording a save ( just checked him because I saw his name with Benitez).
Said I heard it in on the broadcast and may have misheard it.. and it was definitely the case. Good news, an ERA in the 2s for the 9th inning is stilll very good.
has a FIP over 4 and his ERA matches that. That's horrific for a late inning reliever. If he can't cut his BB/9 he's going to drive us nuts in big games next year.
Career 2.85 ERA and 3.27 FIP. I'd trust the bigger sample. He's a fine setup man.
Fair enough. I've made similar arguments against Bruce. He hasn't really passed the eye test for me so far though either.
Flores in the lineup again tonight. No Nimmo or Lagares though. Hopefully Flores keeps hitting and keeps playing.
The Mets lineup tonight is going to include Amed Rosario, Dominic Smith and Michael Conforto. That's pretty exciting.
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But my guess is starters are an after thought this offseason.
But instead starters with good stuff but not equal success who might be having trouble signing elsewhere. Might be sold on the idea of coming here, working with Warthen and Viola. With an outside shot at a rotation spot, with two fallbacks of the bullpen and AAA depth.
A good agent would see that as a career turning opportunity. A bad agent would sign for ten cents more from someone else and the kid is out of baseball in a year or two.
But my guess is starters are an after thought this offseason.
But instead starters with good stuff but not equal success who might be having trouble signing elsewhere. Might be sold on the idea of coming here, working with Warthen and Viola. With an outside shot at a rotation spot, with two fallbacks of the bullpen and AAA depth.
A good agent would see that as a career turning opportunity. A bad agent would sign for ten cents more from someone else and the kid is out of baseball in a year or two.
Makes a ton of sense. Barring an overpay no established starter is signing here knowing that their spot is in competition with at least 5 guys who at any given time could be better. On the flip side, a guy looking to breakthrough could look favorably at a depth chart with injury prone pitchers on top.
Tommy Milone, on the DL since late May with a sprained knee, made his fourth start for Double-A Binghamton on Wednesday, allowing three runs over 5 2/3 innings.
Milone should be back in the mix for a spot in the Mets' rotation after one more start, though it'd be better if the Mets could stick him in middle relief instead. Overall, he has a 4.20 ERA and a 10/2 K/BB ratio in 15 innings in his rehab assignment.
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Long man in the pen and pitch in those blowout losses
Fears that starters will be an after thought. every one of us here and every one who has a lick of common sense knows that the problem with this team is starting pitching, yet we also all know in our hearts that starting pitching is expsnsive and that this front office and this ownership group aren't going to spend when they can point to upside in current roster. So shecky has also indicated that they aren't spending any money on front line relievers either.
Sooooooooo with upwards of what 60-70 million in payroll being freed up what exactly are we going to spend money on? My bet is one 10-14 million per position player, plus one 4-6 million starter who could go to pen, and one 4-5 reliever and they call it a day. Which would put us back in bottom third of payroll and make us all explode as Sethfromastoria comes on and lectures us about some bs.
Fears that starters will be an after thought. every one of us here and every one who has a lick of common sense knows that the problem with this team is starting pitching, yet we also all know in our hearts that starting pitching is expsnsive and that this front office and this ownership group aren't going to spend when they can point to upside in current roster. So shecky has also indicated that they aren't spending any money on front line relievers either.
Sooooooooo with upwards of what 60-70 million in payroll being freed up what exactly are we going to spend money on? My bet is one 10-14 million per position player, plus one 4-6 million starter who could go to pen, and one 4-5 reliever and they call it a day. Which would put us back in bottom third of payroll and make us all explode as Sethfromastoria comes on and lectures us about some bs.
I am all for building from within, but to do that you actually need to spend in the draft, not leaving substantial money on the table because you overdrafted college bats in Rounds 3 and 5 whose profiles scream 4th OF because they would sign below slot and then take senior relievers in Rounds 6-10.
Budget in the draft or damn near close (DMM would know exact amount). Dans issue is more with allocation of budget, this year they way over paid for second round pick which essentially resulted in only having three draft picks in first 10 rounds who have a shot. It's kind of whether you prefer a small amount of high upside or a bunch of medium upside.
spent all but 3,000, technically they could have spent more (5% without taxation) but yeah they spent 4.4 million on the first 2 picks out of 6.46 million in pool money for the first 10 rounds. So picks 3-10 combined to get less than 2 million combined.
I went down a fangraphs rabbit hole yesterday and saw this article from June, apparently Thompson found a glove. Over the last 3 months he's posted an .820 ops and for the season he's back to being a league average hitter. I know he appears older for the level, but his age has always been skewed from attempting CFB and the injury issues. Hopefully he can finish the year strong.
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As a professional, Thompsons profile has nearly inverted. He was worth +10 runs at third over 50 games at short-season Brooklyn in 2015 according to Clay Davenports fielding metrics. Last year, Thompson produced +12 runs defensively in 45 games at Low-A Columbia by that same measure. Baseball Prospectuss methodology has also consistently rated Thompson an above-average defender.
As for the offense, however, that hasnt translated as well to the pro game. While some of Thompsons end-of-season lines have been fine, hes failed to exhibit both the contact skills and game power that defined his appeal as a collegiate until this past week, that is. Indeed, in the 21 plate appearances since last Fridays edition of the Five, the 23-year-old has recorded a 4:2 walk-to-strikeout ratio at Double-A Binghamton while also hitting two doubles and three home runs. Building off either that run of contact or of power would in combination with the defense point to future major-league success.
As I said in the other thread, only in Terry's warped mind is 3 for 17 in August "too hot" to sit. His refusal to give consistent reps to young players when the season is lost should cause him to be fired. Alas, ownership won't do that because it means they may have to pay money to him to not manage.
ARRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Nimmo
Cespedes
Conforto
Walker
Smith
Cabrera
Rosario
Earlier in his career he had an issue with conditioning and diet. Gained a lot of weight in a hurry and had to work on that. Haven't heard anything since.
Are Harvey and Boras going to allow the Mets to move him to the bullpen in the final year of his contract?
No just the same stupid racist crap that Gavone has been spewing for the last 30 years. Cuz you know if a black guy is overweight, he must be lazy. Unless he plays for the Yankees. Then, he can firebomb orphanages and it's all good.
He is a starter without a position yet. Let him play!! He has more HRs than Cespedes this season
Nimmo
Cespedes
Conforto
Walker
Smith
Cabrera
Rosario
You'd really play Reyes everyday over Flores? Why?
Walker/2B
Conforto/RF
Cespedes/LF
Smith/1B
Flores/3B
d'Arnaud/C
Rosario/SS
He might win 20 games this season
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Still think he ends up in the pen next year barring a huge offseason.
Are Harvey and Boras going to allow the Mets to move him to the bullpen in the final year of his contract?
What can they do? He's on his rookie contract. They have no pull. I think Harvey will have a chance to compete for maybe one spot in the rotation in the spring. He'll be competing with about 5 other guys though. I think it's a good thing. It's what should have happened this year. We just had so many injuries it was ridiculous but in reality a few of those guys should have helped the pen.
Walker/2B
Conforto/RF
Cespedes/LF
Smith/1B
Flores/3B
d'Arnaud/C
Rosario/SS
Flores was a mistake omission on my part. I do like Flores better at 2B though where his arm won't get him in trouble as much.
Lazy no idea, out of shape yes. He's out of shape
I saw him with my own eyes watching the 51's last week, he "looks" sloppy but hasn't impacted his hitting to this point. This isn't some Mets hating or racism, he's fat for an MLB player.
He's acknowledged his love of Mexican food/not watching his diet in the past.
Anyway, maybe Dom is packing on a few pounds, maybe there are just too many buffets in Vegas. I'm still excited for this kid. If he can stay within 20-25 pounds and not have it affect the way he hits the ball, feed the man.
Anyway, maybe Dom is packing on a few pounds, maybe there are just too many buffets in Vegas. I'm still excited for this kid. If he can stay within 20-25 pounds and not have it affect the way he hits the ball, feed the man.
I assumed the not racism part was re lazy, not fat.
I don't even care if he's heavy. He's a 1B.
But that better come with better power numbers. Nobody likes a fat contact hitter.
Or Ces will get him smoking. One or the other.
Those guys didnt exactly have beach bodies.
Those guys didnt exactly have beach bodies.
Gwynn body wise is a good comp. "Soft" bodied. Puckett was in better shape than Gwynn or Dom.
Or Ces will get him smoking. One or the other.
Young was extremely underrated as a 1b. Both he and Sean Casey were underrated due the era they played in. Young from 98-2007-117 OPS+ .295/.350/.488
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As for his body, my hope is that being around pros will rub off on him. Nothing like vets to show by example that if you want to stick around, you have to treat your body better.
Or Ces will get him smoking. One or the other.
Young was extremely underrated as a 1b. Both he and Sean Casey were underrated due the era they played in. Young from 98-2007-117 OPS+ .295/.350/.488
I should clarify, not Young's PLAY at 1b. He was an awful fielder. But as a 1b in the era he played guy is underrated or was.
I compare this to all the writeups about the healthy fare at NFL training camps. In some ways baseball is still so backwards.
I compare this to all the writeups about the healthy fare at NFL training camps. In some ways baseball is still so backwards.
Mets, especially in PSL, are one of the better franchises at this actually.
Yankees leak within seconds. Twice. Mets get their 'revenge'.
I compare this to all the writeups about the healthy fare at NFL training camps. In some ways baseball is still so backwards.
One of the first things Gabe Kapler did in LA was change the food habits. Kapler likely won't take the job but he'd be high on my list as next manager. Really smart guy,
He should play every day from here on out. If there is ANY value to sucking it's playing time for "question marks". Is Flores an every day guy? What is Nimmo? What is 2018 Lagares? Is Jamie Callahan a guy we can count on for 2018? etc
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So you can throw that old narrative out.
He should play every day from here on out. If there is ANY value to sucking it's playing time for "question marks". Is Flores an every day guy? What is Nimmo? What is 2018 Lagares? Is Jamie Callahan a guy we can count on for 2018? etc
Yup. Agree 100%
I'm not even a huge Moose fan. I think he is overrated, has started to decline, and will be an overpay but I think Sandy will want a calming, veteran presence over at 3B. It's been too long. I think Conforto eventually will move to a corner but he's young and can handle CF for a few years IMO.
1.) Conforto L
2.) Rosario R
3.) Mustakas L
4.) Cespedes R
5.) Bruce L
6.) Flores R
7.) Smith L
8.) TDA R
Bench. Nimmo, Lagares, Reyes, TJ, Plawecki
Dmitri Young was not a crappy hitter that is absurd. 10 year run of a .295/.350/.488-.838. On what planet is that "pretty crappy"? For comparisons sake Lucas Duda career .805 OPS. Jose Abreu has a .839 OPS, Matt Carpenter .841
A Nimmo/Lagares CF platoon seems pretty enticing to me (if we used $$$ to upgrade elsewhere and signed another OF bat for depth) but let's see these guys stay healthy for a few months and play well before we can even begin to seriously contemplate it.
I've railed against the Mets treatment of Flores since they began yanking him around the diamond and platooning him - criminal.
He and Mejia I cited as prime examples of the FO/MGR overthinking things. Mejia was clearly a starter IMO, but that ship has sailed.
Flores should be a lineup regular. He should start 150+ games. based on current personnel.
Between Flores, Conforto, Cespedes, Rosario and Smith (just those 5) the Mets should get enough offense (and power) at least two of the other 3 positions can/should be defensive-first additions.
So CF and 3B (if you assume Flores is 2B) and TDA holds his own offensively at C. And I get 3B is not normally a defensive position, it's a corner IF spot, but my grand plan is 2018 is a stop gap year where the Mets patchwork 3B until they can make a play for Machado and if they're not in on Machado, Machado being available could open up other 3B options.
A Nimmo/Lagares CF platoon seems pretty enticing to me (if we used $$$ to upgrade elsewhere and signed another OF bat for depth) but let's see these guys stay healthy for a few months and play well before we can even begin to seriously contemplate it.
I wouldn't do it. Lagares/Nimmo are both beyond injury prone. Can't rely on those 2 as your starting "CF". It's not as if they have a CO in the minors who can step in if Conforto has to move back to CF. The cupboard is bare in terms of OF's.
There's a ton of FA OFs on the market too and none of them are top-tier guys who would break the bank and should be available for a short term deal.
First glance of that picture, and it worried me...
It's actually extremely common for minor league teams to promote anything and everything to get a couple extra ticket sales. Virtually every road game Tebow has played all season has advertised that he's playing.
The phillies supposedly tried to take both Yelich along with eating Stanton's money. Stanton's contract is rough but he's still really good. I Miami is waiting for new ownership before doing anything like that.
If you think my idea to sign Wade Davis will never happen, the Mets taking on a ton of dead money is just as unlikely IMO. I like your idea in a vacuum though. Ozuna is great.
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The phillies supposedly tried to take both Yelich along with eating Stanton's money. Stanton's contract is rough but he's still really good. I Miami is waiting for new ownership before doing anything like that.
If you think my idea to sign Wade Davis will never happen, the Mets taking on a ton of dead money is just as unlikely IMO. I like your idea in a vacuum though. Ozuna is great.
Oh I fully admit the Mets taking on significant money in a trade ie Volquez "dead" money etc is unlikely to happen. It's just the kind of thing I would look into if I ran the team. Ces/Ozuna/Conforto... drool.
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Its bittersweet when youve been with an organization your whole career and you have a lot of friends, you know a lot of people and theyve been good to me and you find out that youve been traded and youre happy, youre excited, Callahan said. Its a great opportunity but at the same time youre kind of torn. Youve got your friends that youre leaving and youre heading to a new place and so its kind of bittersweet.
Though surprising, Callahan expressed a lot of excitement about the move.
Callahan joined the 51s during their longest homestand of the season and has some time to get acclimated to the city. Though he said he hasnt seen a lot more just the hotel he has been staying at, he did venture down to The Venetian.
It was like a little Italy. It was sick. I got to see the boats, Callahan said. Im from a small town in South Carolina. I was like Whoa. This is cool. Ive never seen anything like this before.
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But I would be bummed if Smith turned into Dimitri Young. Young was an awful defensive player and outside of maybe one year, was a pretty crappy hitter. As a top 10 pick, I'm hoping for more out of Smith.
Dmitri Young was not a crappy hitter that is absurd. 10 year run of a .295/.350/.488-.838. On what planet is that "pretty crappy"? For comparisons sake Lucas Duda career .805 OPS. Jose Abreu has a .839 OPS, Matt Carpenter .841
First, I said outside of one year (2007?) so maybe it's two.... but a career wRC+ of 112 from 1B with crappy D is not going to satisfy me. Depends on what you are talking about though. "Career Young" or "Peak Young"
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Flores can't hit 30 HR in full time duty with a wRC+ around 115-120? If Smith blows I could actually see Flo at 1B where his defense is a +.
I've railed against the Mets treatment of Flores since they began yanking him around the diamond and platooning him - criminal.
He and Mejia I cited as prime examples of the FO/MGR overthinking things. Mejia was clearly a starter IMO, but that ship has sailed.
Flores should be a lineup regular. He should start 150+ games. based on current personnel.
Between Flores, Conforto, Cespedes, Rosario and Smith (just those 5) the Mets should get enough offense (and power) at least two of the other 3 positions can/should be defensive-first additions.
So CF and 3B (if you assume Flores is 2B) and TDA holds his own offensively at C. And I get 3B is not normally a defensive position, it's a corner IF spot, but my grand plan is 2018 is a stop gap year where the Mets patchwork 3B until they can make a play for Machado and if they're not in on Machado, Machado being available could open up other 3B options.
I agree. I think Flores has earned the right to be an everyday player. I think he's better on the right side of the infield due to his erratic arm. I'd give him a real look at 2B and also let him platoon with Smith here and there.
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How does the arbitration process work?
Are players like Harvey who were injured and awful guaranteed raises?
I believe Harvey is arb eligible this off-season so I'm curious if there is precedent to reduce salary in an arbitration case (should it even get that far) or if it's just mandatory for a salary increase.
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to see if Harvey has enough time to come back and add some trade value. Teams inquired at the deadline.
How does the arbitration process work?
Are players like Harvey who were injured and awful guaranteed raises?
I believe Harvey is arb eligible this off-season so I'm curious if there is precedent to reduce salary in an arbitration case (should it even get that far) or if it's just mandatory for a salary increase.
Harvey is "guaranteed" a raise in the sense that I think there have been 3 arbitration reductions in the last 20-30 years (some crazy stretch like that) and while Harvey has been really bad, they use 3 years to judge players. How much raise is ?? but he'll make more in 2018 than he did in 2017.
Milone should be back in the mix for a spot in the Mets' rotation after one more start, though it'd be better if the Mets could stick him in middle relief instead. Overall, he has a 4.20 ERA and a 10/2 K/BB ratio in 15 innings in his rehab assignment.
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Montero is a hard guy to figure out. He's missing bats at a close to elite level and cut down a bit on the BBs, but is still giving up a lot of hard contact.
LOL, told you this wouldn't go over well
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LOL, told you this wouldn't go over well
It's what I believed all along. The leaks were clearly coming from them and there was a "purpose" behind it. The Yankees quibbling over a million bucks and claiming they were giving us such a better package smelled like BS from the beginning.
Agreed except.... my hopes are up!
I know everyone hates Montero and the results haven't been there but his stuff truly looks a million times better. He's been routinely hitting 95/96 mph. He had a nice little stretch going a few weeks ago. Keep running him out there.
Do they go with a Nimmo/Lagares platoon in CF and focus on bringing in Moustakas?
Do they bring in Cain for CF and leave Flo at 3b?
Regardless of what the Yankees say I'm still concerned about Walker's back and don't feel comfortable giving him a multi-year deal. Can TJ play 2nd? What are other options there?
I think there is so much youth that you really need at least one veteran acquisition to plug some of these holes.
No clue if balls to the wall is even possible with Harvey, he could be one of a long line of pitchers who glimpsed greatness and flamed out like the Mark Prior's of the world. Baseball is littered with them.
Hope it's not the case with Harvey, but it very well could be.
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Balls to the wall this offseason. What's his alternative? It's his walk year and he's a Boras client. Fatigue was one of the issues this year coming off TOS. I could see him dedicating the offseason to getting the arm back to peak condition. Not getting my hopes up but it wouldn't shock me either.
No clue if balls to the wall is even possible with Harvey, he could be one of a long line of pitchers who glimpsed greatness and flamed out like the Mark Prior's of the world. Baseball is littered with them.
Hope it's not the case with Harvey, but it very well could be.
Yeah. I'll head into the season with zero expectations, as I did this year. If he surprises? Great. He was still hitting 96 early in games this year so I find it hard to believe he wouldn't be passable in the pen even as a worst case scenario. I do think it's plausible a guy coming off TOS might have had some strength issues or "atrophy" or whatever. A full healthy offseason might help him.
I just don't see anyone in our rotation getting a big deal anytime soon. I don't have a problem paying one guy big money.
DeGrom
Darvish
Matz (yes I still believe he finishes strong)
Harvey, Wheeler, Lugo, Gsellman, Montero, Flexen
Would be fine by me!
a) they aren't paying Darvish
b) he's durable and don't look now but he's won his last 2 games in Min (4 era in 5 starts)
c) he likes it here and the pitching staff likes him
d) he'd be cheap and already been willing to shift to the bullpen (which other mid-tier starters wouldn't want to do)
He's like our el duque.
? AJ Ramos career 9th inning era is 2.35
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At best he would be a massive question mark coming into the spring and he would be competing with 4-5 other underwhelming candidates. Just doesn't seem like a fit for either party assuming he doesn't retire anyway.
a) they aren't paying Darvish
b) he's durable and don't look now but he's won his last 2 games in Min (4 era in 5 starts)
c) he likes it here and the pitching staff likes him
d) he'd be cheap and already been willing to shift to the bullpen (which other mid-tier starters wouldn't want to do)
He's like our el duque.
Whether they pay Darvish or not has nothing to do with Colon. I'm pretty sure Wheeler and Harvey had two game stretches this year that were good also and they offer a lot more upside. It also doesn't matter if pitchers are willing to move to the pen or not. They are under contract and there are only so many spots. Some of our starters aren't going to have a choice. Sorry. Just don't see it.
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ERA in the ninth inning? It's in the zeroes.
? AJ Ramos career 9th inning era is 2.35
I might have had that backwards. Apologies. It was during the broadcast the other night. Might have been in "save opportunities."
1 week ago he had an ERA/FIP in the 3s in Vegas. Looks like he got touched up recently. You'd rather see Salas over somebody with a 3 era in Vegas all year?
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ERA in the ninth inning? It's in the zeroes.
? AJ Ramos career 9th inning era is 2.35
I might have had that backwards. Apologies. It was during the broadcast the other night. Might have been in "save opportunities."
They cited a BS stat. He has a .88 era... in games where he records a save, any "okay" closer is going to have an extremely low era in games they record a save. His era closing out a game is 2.77.
And that's still close enough. If Darvish costs 140 million and Lynn costs 100 million I know which one I'd rather have.
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1 week ago he had an ERA/FIP in the 3s in Vegas. Looks like he got touched up recently. You'd rather see Salas over somebody with a 3 era in Vegas all year?
I didn't even want Salas back so you are talking to the wrong guy. We will see Callahan shortly, McGowan will be a 40 man consideration so they may give him a look (he has SO bad this spring that they may have seen enough/not think much of him)
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ERA in the ninth inning? It's in the zeroes.
? AJ Ramos career 9th inning era is 2.35
I might have had that backwards. Apologies. It was during the broadcast the other night. Might have been in "save opportunities."
They cited a BS stat. He has a .88 era... in games where he records a save, any "okay" closer is going to have an extremely low era in games they record a save. His era closing out a game is 2.77.
That's exactly what it was. 0.88. Thanks for the clarification. 2.77 is still aces for me.
Career 2.85 ERA and 3.27 FIP. I'd trust the bigger sample. He's a fine setup man.
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has walked 20 in 34 innings
1 week ago he had an ERA/FIP in the 3s in Vegas. Looks like he got touched up recently. You'd rather see Salas over somebody with a 3 era in Vegas all year?
I didn't even want Salas back so you are talking to the wrong guy. We will see Callahan shortly, McGowan will be a 40 man consideration so they may give him a look (he has SO bad this spring that they may have seen enough/not think much of him)
My point was Salas needs to be gone and his spot needs to be given to a young guy. Who that is? I don't care.
Ahahahahaha, 'Mando. Time flies.
Benitez was a fantastic closer so that's nice to hear.
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has a FIP over 4 and his ERA matches that. That's horrific for a late inning reliever. If he can't cut his BB/9 he's going to drive us nuts in big games next year.
Career 2.85 ERA and 3.27 FIP. I'd trust the bigger sample. He's a fine setup man.
Fair enough. I've made similar arguments against Bruce. He hasn't really passed the eye test for me so far though either.
Flores in the lineup again tonight. No Nimmo or Lagares though. Hopefully Flores keeps hitting and keeps playing.
The Mets lineup tonight is going to include Amed Rosario, Dominic Smith and Michael Conforto. That's pretty exciting.
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It's been 806 days since Rosario, Conforto and Smith were in the same lineup for the @stluciemets on May 28, 2015.
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More likely a Cahill signing, at best.
More likely a Cahill signing, at best.
#bringbackbart
But instead starters with good stuff but not equal success who might be having trouble signing elsewhere. Might be sold on the idea of coming here, working with Warthen and Viola. With an outside shot at a rotation spot, with two fallbacks of the bullpen and AAA depth.
A good agent would see that as a career turning opportunity. A bad agent would sign for ten cents more from someone else and the kid is out of baseball in a year or two.
But instead starters with good stuff but not equal success who might be having trouble signing elsewhere. Might be sold on the idea of coming here, working with Warthen and Viola. With an outside shot at a rotation spot, with two fallbacks of the bullpen and AAA depth.
A good agent would see that as a career turning opportunity. A bad agent would sign for ten cents more from someone else and the kid is out of baseball in a year or two.
Makes a ton of sense. Barring an overpay no established starter is signing here knowing that their spot is in competition with at least 5 guys who at any given time could be better. On the flip side, a guy looking to breakthrough could look favorably at a depth chart with injury prone pitchers on top.
Milone should be back in the mix for a spot in the Mets' rotation after one more start, though it'd be better if the Mets could stick him in middle relief instead. Overall, he has a 4.20 ERA and a 10/2 K/BB ratio in 15 innings in his rehab assignment.
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Long man in the pen and pitch in those blowout losses
no idea why they double switched Smith out.
no idea why they double switched Smith out.
pitcher due to leadoff next inning and they wanted to get 1 1/3 out of Sewald
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no idea why they double switched Smith out.
pitcher due to leadoff next inning and they wanted to get 1 1/3 out of Sewald
but why Smith? Why not one of the older guys? like walker?
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no idea why they double switched Smith out.
pitcher due to leadoff next inning and they wanted to get 1 1/3 out of Sewald
but why Smith? Why not one of the older guys? like walker?
Because Walker was batting third the following inning. Rivera made last out and I think they wanted to make sure TdA had complete day off
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goes yard to give the Mets the lead.
no idea why they double switched Smith out.
pitcher due to leadoff next inning and they wanted to get 1 1/3 out of Sewald
but why Smith? Why not one of the older guys? like walker?
Because Walker was batting third the following inning. Rivera made last out and I think they wanted to make sure TdA had complete day off
Oh well, at this point I'd rather see players like Smith get at-bats than sewald pitch 1 1/3 innings.
Sooooooooo with upwards of what 60-70 million in payroll being freed up what exactly are we going to spend money on? My bet is one 10-14 million per position player, plus one 4-6 million starter who could go to pen, and one 4-5 reliever and they call it a day. Which would put us back in bottom third of payroll and make us all explode as Sethfromastoria comes on and lectures us about some bs.
Sooooooooo with upwards of what 60-70 million in payroll being freed up what exactly are we going to spend money on? My bet is one 10-14 million per position player, plus one 4-6 million starter who could go to pen, and one 4-5 reliever and they call it a day. Which would put us back in bottom third of payroll and make us all explode as Sethfromastoria comes on and lectures us about some bs.
I am all for building from within, but to do that you actually need to spend in the draft, not leaving substantial money on the table because you overdrafted college bats in Rounds 3 and 5 whose profiles scream 4th OF because they would sign below slot and then take senior relievers in Rounds 6-10.
Adonis Uceta 2 IP 1 H 2 k
Drew Smith 1 IP 1 H 1 R (Solo HR to Yu-Cheng Chang)
Gsellman 6 IP 3 H 1 Bb 5 K
David Peterson 1.2 IP 2 H 1 BB 3 K (39 pitches)
As for the offense, however, that hasnt translated as well to the pro game. While some of Thompsons end-of-season lines have been fine, hes failed to exhibit both the contact skills and game power that defined his appeal as a collegiate until this past week, that is. Indeed, in the 21 plate appearances since last Fridays edition of the Five, the 23-year-old has recorded a 4:2 walk-to-strikeout ratio at Double-A Binghamton while also hitting two doubles and three home runs. Building off either that run of contact or of power would in combination with the defense point to future major-league success.
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