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Big Rick in FL : 9/5/2017 6:57 pm
According to Cowboys beat writer Mike Fisher. Suspension wouldn't start until Week 2 if Zeke's injunction is denied. Real shocker.
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annexOPR : 9/5/2017 8:05 pm : link
In comment 13585096 BigBlueShock said:
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In comment 13585091 annexOPR said:


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The Giants are blowing them out week 1 - regardless of who starts at RB


Let's not go crazy. It's a tough division game on the road. It will be a close game either way. I do find it somewhat satisfying to know that Jerrah KNOWS, however, that his team of convicts has no shot to win this game without him. Pretty funny actually


If Beckham is all systems go - i don't see how they stop this offense. They do not have the DL to exploit the weak Giants OL - Eli should light them up accordingly.

With the injuries/suspensions, the Dallas front 7 is a joke.
And then the NFL wonders why  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/5/2017 8:07 pm : link
they have the reputation of having a league of criminals..
RE: It took them awhile to cut him, but they did.  
elbowj : 9/5/2017 8:13 pm : link
In comment 13585131 Dave in Hoboken said:
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Let me know when the Cowboys cut their criminal.


Of course the difference is their respective guilt. And this was in response to the oft-repeated but completely false notion that they cut him immediately following the suspension. They didn't. He kicked for the Giants last season. They cut him after the enabling behavior of the Giants and the NFL was exposed.

Funny story about the Brown case. The lead investigator recommended a full six game suspension but a Giants fan in the league office decided on one game. In Zeke's case the same investigator recommended no suspension but a Giants fan in the league office overrode her recommendation and gave him the full six. Weird huh?
wtf are we even humoring this Dbag cowboys fan for?  
Sonic Youth : 9/5/2017 8:16 pm : link
Give him the hammer
RE: RE: It took them awhile to cut him, but they did.  
Sonic Youth : 9/5/2017 8:16 pm : link
In comment 13585166 elbowj said:
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In comment 13585131 Dave in Hoboken said:


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Let me know when the Cowboys cut their criminal.



Of course the difference is their respective guilt. And this was in response to the oft-repeated but completely false notion that they cut him immediately following the suspension. They didn't. He kicked for the Giants last season. They cut him after the enabling behavior of the Giants and the NFL was exposed.

Funny story about the Brown case. The lead investigator recommended a full six game suspension but a Giants fan in the league office decided on one game. In Zeke's case the same investigator recommended no suspension but a Giants fan in the league office overrode her recommendation and gave him the full six. Weird huh?
Also this post is just filled with lulz.

This poster sucks
RE: RE: RE: It took them awhile to cut him, but they did.  
elbowj : 9/5/2017 8:18 pm : link
In comment 13585170 Sonic Youth said:
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In comment 13585166 elbowj said:


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In comment 13585131 Dave in Hoboken said:


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Let me know when the Cowboys cut their criminal.



Of course the difference is their respective guilt. And this was in response to the oft-repeated but completely false notion that they cut him immediately following the suspension. They didn't. He kicked for the Giants last season. They cut him after the enabling behavior of the Giants and the NFL was exposed.

Funny story about the Brown case. The lead investigator recommended a full six game suspension but a Giants fan in the league office decided on one game. In Zeke's case the same investigator recommended no suspension but a Giants fan in the league office overrode her recommendation and gave him the full six. Weird huh?

Also this post is just filled with facts.

This poster knows more about both cases than everyone here with their heads firmly in the sand
RE: Good.  
FStubbs : 9/5/2017 8:18 pm : link
In comment 13585045 Beezer said:
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Guy smacks around his gf who's pregnant with twins. One is miscarried. Second one later needs to be aborted.

Fine. Go run the fucking football, scumbag.

You wanted to appeal. We never would have known more details, you piece of human shit.

Bring it.


Not that I don't believe you, but is there a source for this?
Good  
Joey in VA : 9/5/2017 8:24 pm : link
We don't worry about him anyway, we let Dak throw and fuck it up himself.
It's not that I care so much if he plays this Sunday  
BlackLight : 9/5/2017 8:25 pm : link
It's just irritating that you can get yourself suspended, but manage to spot-start a specific game just by gaming the legal and league appeal system in a certain way.
Zeke suspension upheld for 6 games  
BlackLight : 9/5/2017 8:31 pm : link
Word just reported by Mort.

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/905226172434403329
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/5/2017 8:31 pm : link
I am actually not surprised, but could the NFL have screwed this up even more than they did?
RE: It's not that I care so much if he plays this Sunday  
Diver_Down : 9/5/2017 8:34 pm : link
In comment 13585181 BlackLight said:
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It's just irritating that you can get yourself suspended, but manage to spot-start a specific game just by gaming the legal and league appeal system in a certain way.


Well, that is more the NFL fault in how they dragged out the investigation. They had the entire offseason to issue the suspension allowing plenty of time for the appeals and legal challenges.
As I said on another thread, I'm pessimistic:  
81_Great_Dane : 9/5/2017 8:43 pm : link
Zeke plays, Beckham doesn't.

But I think the Giants win anyway.
As I said in another thread  
Carl in CT : 9/5/2017 8:45 pm : link
If the suspension is upheld doesn't that mean he is still suspended unless a court overturnes it? Was the suspension a six game suspension or was it a suspension not putting him eligible until week 7. (The first six games). If it was the latter he shouldn't be playing as it was upheld.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/5/2017 8:45 pm : link
Whole thing smells fishy.

There is no bigger game ratings wise in the NFL during the regular season than Giants-Cowboys. So it conveniently works out that Elliott sits six games but not the Giants game? Sorry, I'm not buying it.
Good  
joeinpa : 9/5/2017 8:46 pm : link
Let him play. Big distortion them, no cause for them to rally behind
Welp, Beckham better play at this point.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/5/2017 8:47 pm : link
We need to be at full-strength, as well.
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Diver_Down : 9/5/2017 8:52 pm : link
In comment 13585236 Eric from BBI said:
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Whole thing smells fishy.

There is no bigger game ratings wise in the NFL during the regular season than Giants-Cowboys. So it conveniently works out that Elliott sits six games but not the Giants game? Sorry, I'm not buying it.


What I find so "fishy" is the delay in handing down the suspension so late in the offseason. What new testimony/evidence came to light that delayed the initial decision? The NFL had a 1 1/2 years to investigate the matter. They could have issued the suspension after the Draft or OTAs. It would have allowed for plenty of time to hear appeals and any court challenges.
Diver_Down  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/5/2017 8:53 pm : link
Exactly. It reeks of an under-the-table deal with Jerry Jones.
This report is an idiot  
PatersonPlank : 9/5/2017 8:53 pm : link
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micky : 9/5/2017 8:57 pm : link
In comment 13585236 Eric from BBI said:
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Whole thing smells fishy.

There is no bigger game ratings wise in the NFL during the regular season than Giants-Cowboys. So it conveniently works out that Elliott sits six games but not the Giants game? Sorry, I'm not buying it.


fishy...is a way understatement..more appropriate crookedness . figures when Kerri is involved
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micky : 9/5/2017 8:58 pm : link
In comment 13585255 micky said:
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Whole thing smells fishy.

There is no bigger game ratings wise in the NFL during the regular season than Giants-Cowboys. So it conveniently works out that Elliott sits six games but not the Giants game? Sorry, I'm not buying it.



fishy...is a way understatement..more appropriate crookedness . figures when Kerri is involved


jerruh
RE: Diver_Down  
Diver_Down : 9/5/2017 8:58 pm : link
In comment 13585250 Eric from BBI said:
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Exactly. It reeks of an under-the-table deal with Jerry Jones.


Almost as if the NFL had come to the conclusion early enough, but didn't want to tarnish Jerry's induction into the HoF with unwanted questions from the media. By keeping a lid on it, Jerry could have his choreographed moment.
Good  
WillVAB : 9/5/2017 9:02 pm : link
We'll beat their ass with the Ewok and he'll end up sitting in games vs teams that he could actually impact W/L.
So who benefits vs the Cowboys in Game 7?  
SHO'NUFF : 9/5/2017 9:08 pm : link
let me guess...Washington or Philly?

Aren't they messing with fair competition by doing this?
What'll be revolting  
pganut : 9/5/2017 9:09 pm : link
Are the Dallas troglodyte fans who will actually roar for this anal barnacle. Woo-hoo...yeah, Zeke. Another stellar human Cowboy favorite.
Michael Irvin is an embarrassment on NFL Network right now.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/5/2017 9:10 pm : link
On the flipside, it's pretty cool to see the damage that crack has inflicted on his brain from all the years of use.
RE: Michael Irvin is an embarrassment on NFL Network right now.  
figgy2989 : 9/5/2017 9:12 pm : link
In comment 13585287 Dave in Hoboken said:
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On the flipside, it's pretty cool to see the damage that crack has inflicted on his brain from all the years of use.


How the fuck he has a job is beyond me...I guess it isn't as bad as when Emmitt Smith butchered the English language every week on Monday night Countdown.
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Mr. Bungle : 9/5/2017 9:22 pm : link
In comment 13585236 Eric from BBI said:
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Whole thing smells fishy.

There is no bigger game ratings wise in the NFL during the regular season than Giants-Cowboys.

Where are you getting that information? It wasn't true in 2016. Or 2015. Or 2014.
Concussion or crack...  
SHO'NUFF : 9/5/2017 9:23 pm : link
hmmm, tough call
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D_Giants : 9/5/2017 9:23 pm : link
In comment 13585236 Eric from BBI said:
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Whole thing smells fishy.

There is no bigger game ratings wise in the NFL during the regular season than Giants-Cowboys. So it conveniently works out that Elliott sits six games but not the Giants game? Sorry, I'm not buying it.


Totally about ratings. This is an NFL special: for 'legal' reasons the league 'must' let him play. Rich Eisen said this is an NFLPA victory, but the NFL needs the ratings, first and foremost. I am unaware of any other deferred suspensions.
Huge win for Dallas...  
M.S. : 9/5/2017 9:31 pm : link
...for critical home opener against key division rival.
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FStubbs : 9/5/2017 9:37 pm : link
In comment 13585304 D_Giants said:
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In comment 13585236 Eric from BBI said:


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Whole thing smells fishy.

There is no bigger game ratings wise in the NFL during the regular season than Giants-Cowboys. So it conveniently works out that Elliott sits six games but not the Giants game? Sorry, I'm not buying it.



Totally about ratings. This is an NFL special: for 'legal' reasons the league 'must' let him play. Rich Eisen said this is an NFLPA victory, but the NFL needs the ratings, first and foremost. I am unaware of any other deferred suspensions.


How is it a NFLPA victory if Elliott is still doing 6 games? It's a Jerrah victory since he gets to have Elliott against the Giants.
Obvious Game 1 Fix for NFL...  
M.S. : 9/5/2017 9:37 pm : link
...to prop up their declining ratings.

They could not afford to have BOTH Zeke and OBJ out of a marquee game. The NFL couldn't do anything about OBJ's ankle, but they could certainly put the fix in for Zeke's suspension.

When they say it's not about the money (ratings)...

... it's about the money (ratings).

Quite transparent... and more so pathetic.
Mr. Bungle  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/5/2017 9:37 pm : link
It seems like an annual thing when the NFL announces the ratings for the Giants-Cowboys games. If it isn't at the very top, it's near there...combination of "America's team" and America's largest TV market.
RE: Huge win for Dallas...  
D_Giants : 9/5/2017 9:38 pm : link
In comment 13585312 M.S. said:
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...for critical home opener against key division rival.


Perhaps, but it might have been worse if McFadden had a great game. I've watched too many games where The backup has a breakout game because the Giants had no prior experience playing him. Jay Schroeder of the 'Skins comes to mind: L Taylor broke Thiesmann's leg, when Gs are winning; JS brings 'Skins back to a 1-point win.
Mr. Bungle  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/5/2017 9:39 pm : link
Last year, the game was the 5th highest rated game.
You all sound more worried than anything...  
Jimmy Googs : 9/5/2017 9:41 pm : link
Giant defense should be able to take care of business even with Zeke.

So stop playing conspiracy-theory with this suspension delay nonsense, its embarrassing...
RE: Mr. Bungle  
Mr. Bungle : 9/5/2017 9:42 pm : link
In comment 13585326 Eric from BBI said:
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It seems like an annual thing when the NFL announces the ratings for the Giants-Cowboys games. If it isn't at the very top, it's near there...combination of "America's team" and America's largest TV market.

The Cowboys dominate each year's top 5 rated games, sometimes 3 or 4 of the top 5 games are Cowboys games.

The Giants are just one of several distant second-tier teams in the ratings.
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D_Giants : 9/5/2017 9:43 pm : link
In comment 13585324 FStubbs said:
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In comment 13585236 Eric from BBI said:




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Whole thing smells fishy.

There is no bigger game ratings wise in the NFL during the regular season than Giants-Cowboys. So it conveniently works out that Elliott sits six games but not the Giants game? Sorry, I'm not buying it.



Totally about ratings. This is an NFL special: for 'legal' reasons the league 'must' let him play. Rich Eisen said this is an NFLPA victory, but the NFL needs the ratings, first and foremost. I am unaware of any other deferred suspensions.



How is it a NFLPA victory if Elliott is still doing 6 games? It's a Jerrah victory since he gets to have Elliott against the Giants.


Agree with you. Not my opinion, but Eisen's on NFL Network. Interestingly, Eisen cut off Faulk when Faulk was apparently going to disagree with Eisen's claim that you need a law degree to understand this. Network won't acknowledge that Ratings always trump the league's syrupy 'moral' code.
If there was even a modicum of overconfidence by the Giants  
Big Blue '56 : 9/5/2017 9:48 pm : link
Re the prospect of Zeke not playing against us, that no longer can be the case. That's a good thing
RE: You all sound more worried than anything...  
D_Giants : 9/5/2017 9:49 pm : link
In comment 13585334 Jimmy Googs said:
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Giant defense should be able to take care of business even with Zeke.

So stop playing conspiracy-theory with this suspension delay nonsense, its embarrassing...


Conspiracy? The NFL rep comes up with a new 'top-late' rule. $$$$$. The Giants kept Zeke and his team to less than 10 points in game 2, after the Cowboys had developed into an unstoppable force.
Mr. Bungle  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/5/2017 9:59 pm : link
I'm not sure what your point is. Regardless of the reasons, the Giants-Cowboys games are always near the top of the ratings each year.
RE: You all sound more worried than anything...  
BigBlueShock : 9/5/2017 10:00 pm : link
In comment 13585334 Jimmy Googs said:
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Giant defense should be able to take care of business even with Zeke.

So stop playing conspiracy-theory with this suspension delay nonsense, its embarrassing...

You're just trying too hard at this point. You're literally becoming a caricature of yourself. It's embarrassing.

Conspiracy theory? The dude has been suspended for 6 games. Oh, but he can play in game 1 on national television! They has all off season to hash this out and it comes down 2 hours after their supposed deadline, on the exact same day? Yeah, ok.

And I haven't seen one single post on here looking 'worried" about anything. In fact, I've seen the exact opposite. Pointing out the curiosities of this case has nothing to do with being "worried". Just stop. You're entering radar territory and it's not a good look.
Good  
Mark from Jersey : 9/5/2017 10:00 pm : link
Dallas doesn't scare me at all even with EE.

Let us beat the shit out of them on their turf on national TV and make it easier for the lesser teams they will face to beat them without EE.

Go Giants
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Sonic Youth : 9/5/2017 10:04 pm : link
In comment 13585173 elbowj said:
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In comment 13585166 elbowj said:


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In comment 13585131 Dave in Hoboken said:


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Let me know when the Cowboys cut their criminal.



Of course the difference is their respective guilt. And this was in response to the oft-repeated but completely false notion that they cut him immediately following the suspension. They didn't. He kicked for the Giants last season. They cut him after the enabling behavior of the Giants and the NFL was exposed.

Funny story about the Brown case. The lead investigator recommended a full six game suspension but a Giants fan in the league office decided on one game. In Zeke's case the same investigator recommended no suspension but a Giants fan in the league office overrode her recommendation and gave him the full six. Weird huh?

Also this post is just filled with facts.

This poster knows more about both cases than everyone here with their heads firmly in the sand

Evidently doesn't know how the fuck to use the quote feature on an archaic message board.

And you're still a shit poster.
Not surprised  
blueblood : 9/5/2017 10:16 pm : link
the league isnt going to mess up its primetime Sunday Night game on kickoff weekend.. NO WAY..
RE: RE: Good.  
Kyle in NY : 9/5/2017 10:22 pm : link
In comment 13585174 FStubbs said:
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In comment 13585045 Beezer said:


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Guy smacks around his gf who's pregnant with twins. One is miscarried. Second one later needs to be aborted.

Fine. Go run the fucking football, scumbag.

You wanted to appeal. We never would have known more details, you piece of human shit.

Bring it.




Not that I don't believe you, but is there a source for this?


Beez, this did not happen. What are you talking about? Pretty serious accusation to just throw out there
RE: RE: You all sound more worried than anything...  
Jimmy Googs : 9/5/2017 10:41 pm : link
In comment 13585361 BigBlueShock said:
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And there we have it, more high quality posts from BBS...

"The nfl office is corrupt, the cowboys are scumbags, the red sox are cheaters"...
The excuse for allowing him to play Sunday is laughable at best  
montanagiant : 9/5/2017 10:49 pm : link
"It would be unfair to suspend him for the Giants game"
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