Respectfully it is wished for Eli to set the goal to be more accurate then ever as a passer. We can make it all the way to the Super Bowl.
I have heard several interviews with Eli throughout Pre-Season, he has not mentioned keeping his receivers in safe positions with accuracy. I have never seen Beckham fall like that. He was unable to brace for the tackle due to the ball placement in the air. In the case of Marshall he was wide open on the sidelines and was run right into a defender.
I know Eli is still our franchise QB however, He has to protect Odell Beckham and Brandon Marshall with accuracy. Both guys were Trashed by Eli's high throws. It was not intentional of course, but he must use protection techniques for passes he knows are going to expose the receiver for awkward hits. Its up to Eli to determine that.
We expect the Offensive Line to protect Eli - No Excuses. The receivers depend on Eli to do the same. I'm hoping the injuries to Beckham and Marshall do not become the source of nagging injuries.
I know Eli is a Future Hall of Fame QB. I must say I'm still pissed he trashed both receivers in the same game due to high throws. I know Eli is sacred around here. Its the start of the season and it is important that the receivers stay healthy.
Respectfully we try all of us to find out.
LOL I was just going to post the same thing. It's CAGE btw.
What about Accuracy?
Protection Techniques for Passes
a) Grip Strength - Enough with that limp-wristed shit. How will we ever win a game if our QB can't dent an egg?
b) Ball CAGE - We've discussed the importance of CAGES at length since Elite brought it to BBI consciousness several years ago. Spiked CAGE around the ball. Intercept that shit.
c) Moar Facial Hair. Respectfully.
What about Accuracy?
Yeah let's teach QB's how to throw worm burners, makes sense.
What about Accuracy?
What about LBs underneath the WRs? Or the DL tipping passes more easily?
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To throw it low enough that if the receiver can not get it then its in-complete.
What about Accuracy?
Yeah let's teach QB's how to throw worm burners, makes sense.
With the 'rumors' swirling around OBJ, he might enjoy a helmet to the a$$ as he bends to catch the ball 2 inches off the ground. So it has the added effect of keeping OBJ from going Josh Norman on the D!
What about having to throw over rushing linemen and dropping linebackers? Nah....they don't have to worry about that. Just throw it low. Solves everything.
No one wants to see bad passes but they happen. Ever see Brady throw to Edelman or Gronk and get them hurt? I have and it's part of the game.
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but this concept is well known to hockey fans, stretch passes that open up a winger to a vicious hit by a defender, a simple no no. In football too, high passes, particularly across the middle, are often ill advised. No need for fat man here.
No one wants to see bad passes but they happen. Ever see Brady throw to Edelman or Gronk and get them hurt? I have and it's part of the game.
Or Wes Welker...
Actually, this is what is good about BBI (as long as done in jest of course)...
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but this concept is well known to hockey fans, stretch passes that open up a winger to a vicious hit by a defender, a simple no no. In football too, high passes, particularly across the middle, are often ill advised. No need for fat man here.
No one wants to see bad passes but they happen. Ever see Brady throw to Edelman or Gronk and get them hurt? I have and it's part of the game.
Or Wes Welker...
That throw to Welker was intentionally thrown so that he won't get hit.. May be that was a little more inaccurate than he would like but he didn't throw it to him where the safety could hit him..
I acknowledge it happens to every QB and Brady also puts his WR in vulunerable positions but way less than Eli.. Eli loves to throw high and it gets his WR in trouble..
Just like OP i think this is legitimate criticism for Eli..
Then the O-Line should get with Eli and lay out plan as to approx. amount of space he would like in the pocket on passing plays.
And then the Running Backs should get with the O-Line and map out the width of the holes they would like going through the defense on running plays.
Frankly, all reasonable ideas...
But he does raise a fair point...Eli isn't always accurate, sometimes he can be wild high...and sometimes he puts his receivers in a tough spot where going all out for a catch means probably getting whacked.
Trouble is, Eli is going into year 14...he's not about to suddenly become a different QB. He is what he is. Frustrating at times, but we know he still has some perfect throws like the SB 46 bomb to Manningham in him
That's why I had no problem with Marshall making a business decision to pull-up short of a pass in a preseason game
Don't want to see our guys get Trashed, for sure.
1. If he had written it the way you put it, fine. But it was nigh incomprehensible and he didn't talk about Eli's generally inaccuracy, he blamed Eli for these players' specific injuries.
2. I can't quickly find the Marshall play, but I don't recall it being a bad throw.
3. The OBJ throw wasn't perfect but it was fine; the guy took a complete cheap shot at him.
4. Neither the Marshall nor OBJ throws were traditional get-your-WR-killed-over-the-middle throws.
Therefore, blaming Eli for their injuries is kind of bonkers. That, coupled with the asinine language/presentation, made the OP complete bunk in my opinion.
Those are facts
It doesn't mean anything horrible about our qb- but hopefullly on the easy plays we can connect pitch and catch as it should be
Those are facts
It doesn't mean anything horrible about our qb- but hopefullly on the easy plays we can connect pitch and catch as it should be
You are ignoring cause and effect in the case of the OBJ injury, as well as the quality of the throw in the case of Marshall's injury. (I'd love to see video of the Marshall throw if someone has it.)
Those are facts
It doesn't mean anything horrible about our qb- but hopefullly on the easy plays we can connect pitch and catch as it should be
Is it a fact that he "trashed" them, too?
The throws were not terrible
But the point is he needs to be excellent this year- and we can't put our prized weapons in a bad spot- easier said then done but I don't find the post so out of line that it warrants 100 percent bashing - the wording was poor
I never thought he had excellent accuracy, whether it's on high throws or on not hitting guys in stride across the middle to depress YAC. His mind, his composure, his attitude, and his health all do more than make up for the accuracy concerns.
But a byproduct of that inaccuracy is that receivers seem to contort themselves to catch the ball and not be able to protect themselves as quickly. Other times, he throws to a spot but it takes a step longer to get there than it could, and that puts the defender that extra step closer to our receivers as they catch the ball. I acknowledge that it's possible that it only seems that way because I watch him with far more intensity than any other QB.
I'm hoping that part of this stems from not having as much time to throw or a good enough set of offensive weapons as a quarterback needs to dominate.
Perhaps if he has more time to throw this year, and additions like Marshall and Engram able to get separation, that Eli will not have to make these riskier throws.
This brilliant football mind was bounced previously. I have no idea what led to his reinstatement. He's one of the handful of semi-trolls that just like to see their name in lights.