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Respectfully Still upset Eli trashed our WR's in same game

Elite Mobster #32 : 9/6/2017 3:15 pm
Respectfully it is wished for Eli to set the goal to be more accurate then ever as a passer. We can make it all the way to the Super Bowl.
I have heard several interviews with Eli throughout Pre-Season, he has not mentioned keeping his receivers in safe positions with accuracy. I have never seen Beckham fall like that. He was unable to brace for the tackle due to the ball placement in the air. In the case of Marshall he was wide open on the sidelines and was run right into a defender.

I know Eli is still our franchise QB however, He has to protect Odell Beckham and Brandon Marshall with accuracy. Both guys were Trashed by Eli's high throws. It was not intentional of course, but he must use protection techniques for passes he knows are going to expose the receiver for awkward hits. Its up to Eli to determine that.

We expect the Offensive Line to protect Eli - No Excuses. The receivers depend on Eli to do the same. I'm hoping the injuries to Beckham and Marshall do not become the source of nagging injuries.

I know Eli is a Future Hall of Fame QB. I must say I'm still pissed he trashed both receivers in the same game due to high throws. I know Eli is sacred around here. Its the start of the season and it is important that the receivers stay healthy.
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RE: I honestly don't think this guy watches any other qb  
Gatorade Dunk : 9/6/2017 7:33 pm : link
In comment 13586523 PatersonPlank said:
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I don't think he really watches Eli, either.
lol ... yes.  
Beezer : 9/6/2017 7:40 pm : link
Eli is still our franchise quarterback.
I can't help you....  
Bluesbreaker : 9/6/2017 7:41 pm : link
Not sure what you were thinking that this post was not going
to go to well ..
So my great uncle used to stay stuff like this.  
81_Great_Dane : 9/6/2017 8:04 pm : link
He was about 5'-2", and had allopecia, so he looked like Yoda. Ill-tempered Yoda. Grew up on the Lower East Side in the early 1900s. Lived in the Bronx and then Upper West Side. Thick Noo Yawk accent. Very angry man.

He went way back with the Giants, used to watch games at the Polo Grounds from the subway platform above the stadium. Cut him some slack, he grew up poor, and he was probably a student at the time.

Anyway, he said he thought Phil Simms used to throw high over the middle on purpose, deliberately endangering his receivers, to make himself look good. (I don't know how that was supposed to make Simms look good, but ok.)

So when I read this, I hear it in my great uncle's angry-Yoda-from-da-Bronx voice.

(My great uncle was actually a remarkable guy, so I don't mean to make fun of him too much. He just had a little bit of a paranoid streak. On another note, he claimed to have gone to Christy Mathewson's last game with the NY Giants. Said he walked up from the Lower East Side with a friend and a beautiful lady gave him and his buddy tickets. True story? Who knows. When he was in his 70s he tried to demonstrate Art Nehf's delivery to show me what was odd about it. Art Nehf pitched for the Giants in the 1920s. I still couldn't tell you what he was trying to show me, but it was amazing to see that short bald guy trying to imitate a pitcher from 60 years earlier.)
RE: I would think one protection technique would be  
BMac : 9/6/2017 8:44 pm : link
In comment 13586405 Elite Mobster #32 said:
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To throw it low enough that if the receiver can not get it then its in-complete.

What about Accuracy?


In-complete; nin-compoop.
OMG!  
Doomster : 9/6/2017 9:35 pm : link
OMG!
Y'all are bugging the fuck out  
Glover : 9/6/2017 11:49 pm : link
The OP makes a decent point. it's nuanced, perhaps nit-picky, but its a real thing. QBs have to throw the ball to protect receivers. When receivers get blown up in the middle of the field it's the QB who did that, hung a dude out to dry, threw it too high so receivers have to jump up, exposing their bodies to hits they would not receive if they could catch the ball while running or with their feet on the ground so they can absorb the hit. I can't believe the unanimous trashing of this post. You all have never heard of this concept? How where a QB places the ball to his receiver can either be perfect, or thrown so the receiver is exposed? Really? Watch Tom Brady. Watch Aaron Rodgers. These guys are that fastidious about their accuracy, and everything else in their game preparation that you will notice things like that, how they never, or very rarely leave a receiver out to dry like Eli did Beckham, and Marshall. Marshall just alligator armed that shit because he was like: "this is the preseason, I aint trying to get my head taken off".

I'm not saying Eli prepares less than those guys, but those guys are just more accurate. Eli demonstrates incredible accuracy at times, but other times he makes shit more difficult for his receivers than need be. And yea, I do blame the O line for that last season, because Eli was constantly shook in the pocket, would rather throw a pick than take a mean hit, and I'm fine with that. That is what has kept him on the field every game since he took over as starter.

A vicious bunch of lemmings piling on this guy's observation.
Bravo. Now go ahead and trash me too.
Thanks Glover  
Elite Mobster #32 : 9/7/2017 9:27 am : link
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I'm not sure if Manning  
family progtitioner : 9/7/2017 9:39 am : link
has laid out his WRs in past years, but let's just say that it's not easy being a TE with Manning at QB. They've taken some vicious hits over the years.
Eli doesn't lay out WR's any more or less than the other top QB's  
PatersonPlank : 9/7/2017 9:55 am : link
This is all speculation with absolutely no facts.
The throw to Marshall  
RinR : 9/7/2017 10:11 am : link
was overthrown. Happens every game every season by every QB; multiple times.

Yes Eli has a tendency to throw high resulting in tipped balls for INTs but Eli being more accurate does not lead to a straight line to the Super Bowl.

Dumb OP premise.
RinR dumb  
Elite Mobster #32 : 9/7/2017 11:17 am : link
You just contradicted yourself.

Understand from the beginning of the season.
ODB and Marshall are considered as a top unit in the NFL. If the ball is thrown risking their ability to catch the ball safely, there will shots taken at them.

It's no time for Non-Sense

RE: RinR dumb  
Gatorade Dunk : 9/7/2017 5:15 pm : link
In comment 13587126 Elite Mobster #32 said:
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You just contradicted yourself.

Understand from the beginning of the season.
ODB and Marshall are considered as a top unit in the NFL. If the ball is thrown risking their ability to catch the ball safely, there will shots taken at them.

It's no time for Non-Sense

I don't think contradict means what you think it means.
Eli..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/7/2017 5:23 pm : link
has lofted the skin of pig far too high and long for the Giant receivers of the ball to keep them healthy and happy.

Even though my theory is of shit out of horse's ass, my guess is that some posters of the site Big Blue Interactive will actually type that this validity of point is sound.

Understanding in the negative of how this can be, I do not know. Must check Moldovian ethics guide.

The point of key grasping is Eli has trashed his two receivers the best by providing passes that are positionally causing of severe injury. Must be AGGRESSIVE but not throw ball to point of arc where catchers can be injured. This is basic point, like potatoes in famine equal nutrition for all.
Not agreeing with the OP  
JohnF : 9/7/2017 6:26 pm : link
but here are my observations:

1) The DB for the Browns could have tackled Beckham, easily. He went for the knee, intentionally. There's nothing a QB can do about that, if a DB wants to injure a WR that way, he will.

2) There is something about Eli's throws that bother me (and this goes back to his Albany camp days). Eli, when he first came up, didn't have any problem leading his WR's, so that they were still moving forward when catching the ball.

That changed in his second year. Eli seems to throw behind the WR a LOT...to the point where his WR's/TE's/RB's have to stop or reach back to get the ball, slowing them down. That might have been a reaction to some early INT's over the middle, making him go to "safer" throws.

If you look at the hit on OBJ's knee in the Cleveland game...that was actually a really good pass by ELi, other than the fact that OBJ had to leap for it. That's a pass you want your QB to throw.

As a WR, though, you need to know when you're going against a scumbag DC like Greg Williams, who is likely to be all in on injuring other teams players.
The best laugh I have had this week..  
lono801 : 9/7/2017 8:15 pm : link
Understanding in the negative of how this can be, I do not know. Must check Moldovian ethics guide.

Don't ever stop...Classic...


In all the years of watching Eli I can only think of one pass he hung someone out to dry...that was to Boss...

It was a deep(er) pass over the middle...I don't recall against who...

On that play he hung Boss...other than that...I don't see it
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