was hire Mcadoo as the Giants HC. I've never been a fan of him since the Giants hired him as OC, and this performance tonight shows the reason why.. So many got on Britt in VA case and what do those think now?
This Offense was a shit show tonight, period. It has not improved since he got hired and it looks like its getting worse. The Giants offensive coaching staff is a complete joke and it showed. This offense is just so predictable year after year? Mcadoo is over-matched and completely lost, just flat out embarrassing. Against a Dallas defense that is weak too?! I will give some credit to the Cowboys DC, with pretty much a whole new defense he made it happen! See what people are not realizing is how does Rod Marinelli make this defense play so well with a bunch of new players in only 1 offseason????! But Mcadoo has been with the Giants for years and the offense still hasn't improved??? WHy? It's called having real coaches that know what they are doing, there are bad coaches and good coaches that make the difference. This is a good example of that. It's just sad.. smh. The only positive thing is the defense and it's to be expected considering how much Reese spent on them. Reese is to blame as well, he's a big part of this mess. smh..
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He took over and the team turned around immediately. Injuries way down. Close games turned from losses into victories.
Where he's been disappointing is on offense - where he's wearing two hats and should certainly give up one. He shouldn't be responsible for offensive playcalling any more.
Lets be real here. If TC had been given Snacks,OV & Jenkins,he could have turned the team around too. I agree that I like his demeanor as HC but this dual job of HC/OC isn't working. Last night's performance is not causing an over reaction as the O hasn't played well since he took on the dual roles. Strangely, the O was much better when he was only OC (maybe because they were constantly playing catch up because the D sucked & TC had input). Yes, the OLine is not good but a good OC comes up w/schemes to counteract that. (Brady played many years w/a terrible OLine, yet their Offense never suffered).I don't think he turns the reins over to Sullivan because he still thinks he's the best solution for the O.As he calls out the O for their poor play,I hope he looks at the man in the mirror!
If TC would have been just as effective, why has no team offered him a head coaching position in two full offseasons since he parted ways with the Giants?
I think the blame yesterday lies with Eli Manning, a poor offensive line, and a defense that couldn't get off the field.
We can't score 20 points going back to last season.
I can't understand how he gets a pass.
His coaching towards the end didn't do him any favors - he could easily have stepped in as the HC in Jax regardless of his age. Mistakes like these were responsible for him not getting another spot.
Giants clock mismanagement costs them a couple of Ws - ( New Window )
And, uh, it's not good.
I wanted McAdoo to be the guy.
Unfortunately, I now believe he is not the guy.
The same offensive line was adequate in 2015. Not good, not great, but adequate.
Why are these young players regressing?
Did you have a look at some of the games yesterday? OL play was shit everywhere. About the only OL that looked halfway decent was the Rams - which, could be because of their OL FA acquisition, or could be because the Colts are hot garbage (larger sample size needed).
If the 2015 offensive line was adequate, why did we only have 5 rushing TDs all season? Why did we have to throw the ball 600+ times?
The offensive line is, and has been, terrible for years.
If the 2015 offensive line was adequate, why did we only have 5 rushing TDs all season? Why did we have to throw the ball 600+ times?
The offensive line is, and has been, terrible for years.
Of course, and nobody has championed that fact louder than me since 2011.
What do shootouts have to do with it? Either we scored a lot of points or we didn't?
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He took over and the team turned around immediately. Injuries way down. Close games turned from losses into victories.
Where he's been disappointing is on offense - where he's wearing two hats and should certainly give up one. He shouldn't be responsible for offensive playcalling any more.
Lets be real here. If TC had been given Snacks,OV & Jenkins,he could have turned the team around too. I agree that I like his demeanor as HC but this dual job of HC/OC isn't working. Last night's performance is not causing an over reaction as the O hasn't played well since he took on the dual roles. Strangely, the O was much better when he was only OC (maybe because they were constantly playing catch up because the D sucked & TC had input). Yes, the OLine is not good but a good OC comes up w/schemes to counteract that. (Brady played many years w/a terrible OLine, yet their Offense never suffered).I don't think he turns the reins over to Sullivan because he still thinks he's the best solution for the O.As he calls out the O for their poor play,I hope he looks at the man in the mirror!
If TC would have been just as effective, why has no team offered him a head coaching position in two full offseasons since he parted ways with the Giants?
It's very rare that coaches in their '70's get offered new HC jobs! Society itself has deemed younger is better. And last years' mantra was just that.The fact that last years'O was terrible while Spag's D (given the tools he needed)kept us in games is indisputable.11-5 was in spite of the O,not because of it! Let's see what is done to remedy this malaise next week, at home with the 2007 Giants in the house being honored & the 2007 QB still at the helm!
I don't care if we scored 3 points a game last year...we went 11-5. And I'd bet that if Coughlin had been the coach we would have been closer to 5-11.
McAdoo isn't the problem here.
Disgraceful in every sense of the word.
I wanted McAdoo to be the guy.
Unfortunately, I now believe he is not the guy.
You preached patience with Tom, you've become the poster you used to hate.
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I didn't like it, but I didn't argue against it.
I wanted McAdoo to be the guy.
Unfortunately, I now believe he is not the guy.
You preached patience with Tom, you've become the poster you used to hate.
I preached patience with Tom because he was a proven winner.
McAdoo is an unknown and the offense falling off a cliff is completely alarming to say the least.
Lastly, I have no other option than to be patient with McAdoo. But the early returns aren't great.
Where he's been disappointing is on offense - where he's wearing two hats and should certainly give up one. He shouldn't be responsible for offensive playcalling any more.
This. My guess is that Mac realizes he has a top defense, and plays it close to the vest offensively. He needs to open it up. If that involves him giving up playcalling, fine. I'm just not certain Sullivan is up to the task.
In Coughlin's first season we went 6-10. Were you complaining about early returns then?
In Coughlin's first season we went 6-10. Were you complaining about early returns then?
When the head coach also calls the plays on offense, then yeah, he's responsible for the offensive side of the ball.
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He took over and the team turned around immediately. Injuries way down. Close games turned from losses into victories.
Where he's been disappointing is on offense - where he's wearing two hats and should certainly give up one. He shouldn't be responsible for offensive playcalling any more.
This. My guess is that Mac realizes he has a top defense, and plays it close to the vest offensively. He needs to open it up. If that involves him giving up playcalling, fine. I'm just not certain Sullivan is up to the task.
I'm in the same boat - but if Sullivan isn't, then what's the sense of keeping him in the background? Put him front and center, let him sink or swim, and if we need a new OC go out and get one.
11-5 is 11-5. McAdoo deserves a longer leash than one game this year before he starts getting shit on.
We won a ton of close games last season (7 out of 11 by 6 points or less) so McAdoo never had to face adversity. Let's see how McAdoo responds to adversity and gets ODB back before passing judgment.
No, there aren't a lot of coaches, particularly rookie head coaches, who can do that. Just because it's your (ill-informed) opinion, doesn't make it true.
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I agree with you, but Coughlin is gone and nothing is going to change that. I thought it was idiotic to buy a Ferrari and turn it over to a kid with a learner's permit, but what is done is done.
We won a ton of close games last season (7 out of 11 by 6 points or less) so McAdoo never had to face adversity. Let's see how McAdoo responds to adversity and gets ODB back before passing judgment.
That's a weird thing to say. Close games ARE adversity. The entire season was a tightrope walk.
If they were blowing teams out by 20, that would be a lack of adversity.
I really hate hearing that "execute" word thrown around so much. There are two things when it comes to execution..
1. beating the man in front of you. Yes, you should do that no matter what play is called.
2. execution of a play or scheme that may be destined to fail from the start. So, in a simple example if the plan is to run the ball and the defense knows it, they will bring more bodies than you can block...making execution near impossible.