But is very careful about not criticizing Flowers and others. Anyone catch the "sloppy QB play" comment? And a couple other comments on the turnover and bad throw comments. But made sure when the reporters were pushing on Flowers, he said it's not just one player.
Matt Ryan is Usain Bolt compared to Eli at this point in his career. Do you have any idea what the lack of athleticism does for his OL?
Tonight, people lauded the Detroit OL - despite the fact that Stafford was running for his life half the night and slammed to the turf on several occasions. Why? Because when everyone was covered, Stafford could take advantage of the gaps and run upfield.
Short of a bomb threat, that's never going to happen with Eli, and that's part of the problem.
Q: What happened on your interception?
A: Can’t afford it. The ball was a little behind Evan. So, we’ve got to look at it and I’ve got it put it in front of him and give him a chance to run, or move on to my next progression.
To his credit, he also took the blame for the delay of game (which I thought was a blessing in disguise, but could have been painful elsewhere) and some other problems. For all the hand wringing people do on Eli's behalf, I think he'd be the first guy to tell you he needs to do better if this offense is going to improve.
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Matt Ryan is Usain Bolt compared to Eli at this point in his career. Do you have any idea what the lack of athleticism does for his OL?
Tonight, people lauded the Detroit OL - despite the fact that Stafford was running for his life half the night and slammed to the turf on several occasions. Why? Because when everyone was covered, Stafford could take advantage of the gaps and run upfield.
Short of a bomb threat, that's never going to happen with Eli, and that's part of the problem.
At this point in his career? Eli has never been a mobile QB. If you want the Giants to go the mobile QB route just say it. Don't mask your true feelings with absurd critiques of his play.
Unless of course you think Eli is full of shit too. Which, might not be a stretch considering some of the stupidity on this thread.
Eli has always kind of been volatile. Most of his career has been like this. He shows flashes of brilliance and has stretches where he's not phased by anything and then he makes throws that no one understands or loses the football in a big spot. We've had times where we've been able to overcome that and also times like this where we just can't. Eli basically is what he is. It's hard to expect him to play mistake-free football since he rarely has in his career.
Unless of course you think Eli is full of shit too. Which, might not be a stretch considering some of the stupidity on this thread.
Eli always takes the blame in post game pressers. Now all of a sudden we're taking what he says at face value?
arc - I don't disagree with you, but I think you're assuming this is the same old enigmatic Eli. I think things have worsened somewhat. Eli has been hearing footsteps worse than he has in the past, and it has exacerbated his problems.
Tonight was a microcosm of his career - he was good and bad all in the same night. A bad INT, nearly overthrew Engram in the endzone, held the ball way too long for a couple of coverage sacks, fell down on a phantom sack in one instance where the rusher barely got a hand on him, gets a delay of game penalty when he loses track of the clock. Bad.
Then, he comes out firing in the second half - makes a beautiful throw to Marshall (that's dropped), avoids the rush in a few instances and makes some nice throws. Drives the team downfield and should have scored if not for BJ's holding penalty. Good.
It's how he's always been - but OL play isn't what it used to be, and we're in a WCO now. He's got to give up quicker when there's nothing to be found, and not force throws into coverage. Take the short, high percentage throws. Dump the ball off when it's obvious nothing is open. Get rid of the ball quicker - and protection will be less of an issue.
It's the irresistible force and immovable object - he's not getting faster, and he's always had these flaws. The OL isn't getting any better, and they can't protect for very long. So one or the other - wait for the OL to improve, or get Eli to get rid of the ball faster. Which do you think is more likely?
The Seahawks OL is horrid - Wilson is just able to extend some plays and escape out of the pocket, but even still, their offense looks like trash. They could barely even score against the Packers who have a garbage defense.
I think for our offense to look like this - it's probably not a one or the other. I think it's several contributing factors - which we saw tonight.
Did you watch Green Bay and Atlanta last night? How good was Rodgers? He's a better player than Eli, but even a guy as good as he is will look like shit if his line can't block.
I fully admit that I can't be fully objective when it comes to Eli; I love the guy and want him to retire a Giant. But when he quits you won't see me suggesting we should spend the same money at the position.
But he's here and he's getting older...and the front office fucked up big time spending so much money on the defense and leaving the offensive line to depend on the hope that all three draft picks and the FA retreads would hit.
No veteran QB likes getting hit. Better QBs than Eli have wilted under constant pass rush pressure to the point where those few downs where the protection holds up are still impacted by the generally poor line. As Eli aged there should have been a plan in place to focus on making the offensive line one of, if not the strongest, units on the team. The line needed to get better as he aged.
That clearly hasn't happened.
You can have Odell Beckham, Brandon Marshall, Evan Engram, and Sterling Shepard. They don't matter if the quarterback isn't consistently given the time to get them the football. Did you see the pockets Matt Ryan was getting on Sunday night? Eli hasn't seen a pocket like that in years.
A good coach,particularly a HC, adjusts his offense to his personnel. As an OC, he was forced to implement aspects of TC's offense that focused on Eli's strengths.As soon as he became HC,he decided Eli would be coached to fit his offense. Now,Eli said all the right things,did everything his HC asked him to do(Because he's Eli) but this offense does not focus on Eli's strengths but rather what the HC knows & feels comfortable calling. His offense doesn't work. It didn't last year when the team won in spite of it,not because of it. And please don't tell me it's the record that counts because if Reese had spent $200 million on the D when TC was here,we'd have had similar results last year w/TC as coach.Every time I listen to the HC,he doesn't seem to have any answers just the ability to deflect blame. A good coach never does that!
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He knows Eli can take it, and he's trying to keep the world from piling on the linemen.
A good coach,particularly a HC, adjusts his offense to his personnel. As an OC, he was forced to implement aspects of TC's offense that focused on Eli's strengths.As soon as he became HC,he decided Eli would be coached to fit his offense. Now,Eli said all the right things,did everything his HC asked him to do(Because he's Eli) but this offense does not focus on Eli's strengths but rather what the HC knows & feels comfortable calling. His offense doesn't work. It didn't last year when the team won in spite of it,not because of it. And please don't tell me it's the record that counts because if Reese had spent $200 million on the D when TC was here,we'd have had similar results last year w/TC as coach.Every time I listen to the HC,he doesn't seem to have any answers just the ability to deflect blame. A good coach never does that!
good post mick...he also should take blame. His offense doesn't work. get a oc in here..not in season after
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He knows Eli can take it, and he's trying to keep the world from piling on the linemen.
A good coach,particularly a HC, adjusts his offense to his personnel. As an OC, he was forced to implement aspects of TC's offense that focused on Eli's strengths.As soon as he became HC,he decided Eli would be coached to fit his offense. Now,Eli said all the right things,did everything his HC asked him to do(Because he's Eli) but this offense does not focus on Eli's strengths but rather what the HC knows & feels comfortable calling. His offense doesn't work. It didn't last year when the team won in spite of it,not because of it. And please don't tell me it's the record that counts because if Reese had spent $200 million on the D when TC was here,we'd have had similar results last year w/TC as coach.Every time I listen to the HC,he doesn't seem to have any answers just the ability to deflect blame. A good coach never does that!
You're a bad listener then, since his press conference starts by saying the Los was on him, and he's responsible for fixing it.
Even worse, before they stepped foot out there with TC as HC and BM as OC, TC made it clear it was all McAdoo's O, but revisionist history has BM running with TC concepts.
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He knows Eli can take it, and he's trying to keep the world from piling on the linemen.
A good coach,particularly a HC, adjusts his offense to his personnel. As an OC, he was forced to implement aspects of TC's offense that focused on Eli's strengths.As soon as he became HC,he decided Eli would be coached to fit his offense. Now,Eli said all the right things,did everything his HC asked him to do(Because he's Eli) but this offense does not focus on Eli's strengths but rather what the HC knows & feels comfortable calling. His offense doesn't work. It didn't last year when the team won in spite of it,not because of it. And please don't tell me it's the record that counts because if Reese had spent $200 million on the D when TC was here,we'd have had similar results last year w/TC as coach.Every time I listen to the HC,he doesn't seem to have any answers just the ability to deflect blame. A good coach never does that!
You're a bad listener then, since his press conference starts by saying the Los was on him, and he's responsible for fixing it.
Even worse, before they stepped foot out there with TC as HC and BM as OC, TC made it clear it was all McAdoo's O, but revisionist history has BM running with TC concepts.
I heard the HC's entire Press Conference. He has started the last 2 by saying it's on him & then goes on to say why it isn't,throwing players,especially Eli,under the bus. TC,like Eli,is a classy coach who didn't want the new OC to appear that he wasn't calling his entire offense. But,all you need to do is watch the 2015 games as opposed to 2016/17 to see that aspects of TC's offense were being implemented while as soon as he was gone,they were scrubbed!
But it won't happen.
Shotgun draw everyone!