And talk about tinfoil hat territory - some guy on there who I guess is their resident program insider (they all seemed to give him a lot of credence) was spinning this crazy story that Miller was actually a good guy in all this, that he was some kind of whistleblower who was working with the FBI during their investigation.
IOW, the FBI was working with a head coach to nail his own assistant coach. Right. Oh, and as a result Arizona's going to lose top recruits when they are declared ineligible. And that supposedly makes Sean Miller a knight in shining armor, by burning a kid's career before it ever starts.
I'm sure the money in football dwarfs the money in basketball, but it won't come out of this investigation. This was all tied up with the shoe companies, who aren't nearly as big a player in college football.
This. The shoe game isn't nearly as powerful in football. That's not to suggest that there isn't as much if not more corruption in college football, but it's a different set of dots to connect, and booster money is far different than corporate money. This won't sway the college football ship at all.
This is news to anyone? This kind of stuff has been going on for at least 50 years. The question now is how the NCAA is going to hand out penalties and it isn't even their investigation. This scandal has the possibility of reaching just about EVERY major university.Most schools with the Nike swoosh or ADIDAS Logo have been paid illegally by these sneaker companies AND others throughout the years. Yes, I know firsthand of this because I was friendly with three High School Americans who all received some type of illegal benefits from three different universities and the stories they would tell made what was disclosed yesterday pale in comparison. This finally coming out in public is a longtime coming. There are many coaches and AD's hiding in their offices today.
Also, an Alabama associate AD suddenly resigned. They already took his bio page dowm off the athletics web site.
Can't be accurate. The Alabama athletic department, its boosters and political appointees on the college board, and coaches follow the rules like no other.
I have to do something I never though I'd do - praise a Terp Â
Gary Williams hated the AAU/shoe company world. He refused to participate, lost out on a lot of big time DC region recruits, and eventually retired rather than play their game. Gotta respect that.
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Gary Williams hated the AAU/shoe company world. He refused to participate, lost out on a lot of big time DC region recruits, and eventually retired rather than play their game. Gotta respect that.
Proud of you, Greg. :-)
Hope you and your family have been well.
This scandal is taking down more than hoops coaches Â
Gary Williams hated the AAU/shoe company world. He refused to participate, lost out on a lot of big time DC region recruits, and eventually retired rather than play their game. Gotta respect that.
Gary is in the HOF and Curtis Malone is in jail. Simple as that.
Anyone else seeing Sean Miller's house raided by the Feds? Â
they want to turn this thing into big money and get corporate dollars injected into their programs...but somehow expect that none of that money lands in the hands of the players? Really?
This ends the minute they stop accepting corporate sponsorships.
Yes, the women are smokin. But the campus is underwhelming to say the least.
C'mon, It is not that bad - Coral Gables is (was?) a nice area when I was down there in the late 70's. And, not to mention a 15 minute car ride to Key Biscayne.
[quote]Augustine told the group that he expected Adidas to cover the payments because "no one swings a bigger [expletive] than [Coach-2]" at Adidas, and all the coach had to do "is pick up the phone and call somebody [and say], 'These are my guys, they're taking care of us.'"/quote]
“We got lucky on this one. I had an AAU director call me and ask me if I’d be interested in a great player. I saw him against another great player from Indiana. I said, ‘Yeah, I’d be really interested.’ They had to come in unofficially, pay for their hotel, pay for their meals. We spent zero dollars recruiting a five-star athlete who I loved when I saw him play. In my 40 years of coaching, this is the luckiest I’ve been.”
Since this investigation is pretty much the same thing, someone called up Myron Piggie for a story.
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“I could have talked about everyone,” Piggie said. “I could have put other people away. I could have put five, six schools on probation.”
Yet he didn’t. He refused to cooperate and wound up serving 37 months in federal prisons in Leavenworth, Kansas, and Forest City, Arkansas. He said the extended time was preferable to snitching, even if it was just about college basketball.
“That’s the street code,” Piggie said. “I couldn’t do that. Not where I was at that place; not how I was brought up.”
Anyway, what's actually interesting in the article is an attorney who says that the feds really don't have as much leverage to flip people in this case as it would appear:
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For some, or even all the defendants, that could mean a maximum of 27 to 33 months in prison, Mordock said. Even if found guilty, a judge is far more likely to hand down, at most, six months prison time, which could be turned into just probation.
“I don’t think that this is enough to flip anybody,” Mordock said.
For some, or even all the defendants, that could mean a maximum of 27-33 months in prison, Mordock said, but if found guilty it is far more likely to be as little six months maximum prison time, which could be turned into just probation.
Now, he's the expert, not me, but I'm guessing that, out of all those guys, there's going to be at least one or two who have no intention of spending a day in prison, let alone six months.
[quote]Augustine told the group that he expected Adidas to cover the payments because "no one swings a bigger [expletive] than [Coach-2]" at Adidas, and all the coach had to do "is pick up the phone and call somebody [and say], 'These are my guys, they're taking care of us.'"/quote]
Yeah but pitino didn't know any of this was going on and he was appalled!
"Russell Athletics officials meeting with two-star recruits in parking garages, telling them that if they commit to Georgia Tech they can make it worth their while, flashing coupons for 50% off any item with the purchase of an equal or greater value item from Dick's Sporting Goods."
Christian Dawkins, the agent who was indicted, ran an AAU team a few years ago. One of his players was Jaylen Johnson, who went to Louisville. Another not mentioned in the linked article was Josh Jackson, which is interesting given the fact that KU announced yesterday that they're doing an internal inquiry. Link - ( New Window )
Christian Dawkins, the agent who was indicted, ran an AAU team a few years ago. One of his players was Jaylen Johnson, who went to Louisville. Another not mentioned in the linked article was Josh Jackson, which is interesting given the fact that KU announced yesterday that they're doing an internal inquiry. Link - ( New Window )
Everyone knows Josh Jackson's deal. Peaches definitely got some love.
Bruce Pearl
Rick Pitino
Sean Miller
Frank Martin
Bruce Pearl
Rick Pitino
Sean Miller
Frank Martin
Sean Miller quietly doing a ton of dirt, but Frank Martin cheated as a high school coach!
IOW, the FBI was working with a head coach to nail his own assistant coach. Right. Oh, and as a result Arizona's going to lose top recruits when they are declared ineligible. And that supposedly makes Sean Miller a knight in shining armor, by burning a kid's career before it ever starts.
Where did you see this.
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I'm sure the money in football dwarfs the money in basketball, but it won't come out of this investigation. This was all tied up with the shoe companies, who aren't nearly as big a player in college football.
This. The shoe game isn't nearly as powerful in football. That's not to suggest that there isn't as much if not more corruption in college football, but it's a different set of dots to connect, and booster money is far different than corporate money. This won't sway the college football ship at all.
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assistant coaches who was arrested called him last night and said he's flipping for the feds and is going to open up the whole thing. Crazy.
Where did you see this.
An interview on ESPN
: ) ... wonder what the spread was?
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Legs.
Can't be accurate. The Alabama athletic department, its boosters and political appointees on the college board, and coaches follow the rules like no other.
Proud of you, Greg. :-)
Hope you and your family have been well.
Gary is in the HOF and Curtis Malone is in jail. Simple as that.
This ends the minute they stop accepting corporate sponsorships.
Yes, the women are smokin. But the campus is underwhelming to say the least.
C'mon, It is not that bad - Coral Gables is (was?) a nice area when I was down there in the late 70's. And, not to mention a 15 minute car ride to Key Biscayne.
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Legs.
!!! rim shot ... ; )
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@JeffEisenberg
Believe it or not, resigned Alabama staffer Kobie Baker's former job is ... NCAA assistant director of enforcement.
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[quote]Augustine told the group that he expected Adidas to cover the payments because "no one swings a bigger [expletive] than [Coach-2]" at Adidas, and all the coach had to do "is pick up the phone and call somebody [and say], 'These are my guys, they're taking care of us.'"/quote]
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Yet he didn’t. He refused to cooperate and wound up serving 37 months in federal prisons in Leavenworth, Kansas, and Forest City, Arkansas. He said the extended time was preferable to snitching, even if it was just about college basketball.
“That’s the street code,” Piggie said. “I couldn’t do that. Not where I was at that place; not how I was brought up.”
Anyway, what's actually interesting in the article is an attorney who says that the feds really don't have as much leverage to flip people in this case as it would appear:
“I don’t think that this is enough to flip anybody,” Mordock said.
For some, or even all the defendants, that could mean a maximum of 27-33 months in prison, Mordock said, but if found guilty it is far more likely to be as little six months maximum prison time, which could be turned into just probation.
Now, he's the expert, not me, but I'm guessing that, out of all those guys, there's going to be at least one or two who have no intention of spending a day in prison, let alone six months.
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[quote]Augustine told the group that he expected Adidas to cover the payments because "no one swings a bigger [expletive] than [Coach-2]" at Adidas, and all the coach had to do "is pick up the phone and call somebody [and say], 'These are my guys, they're taking care of us.'"/quote]
Yeah but pitino didn't know any of this was going on and he was appalled!
hahahahaha
Go on, Sonny, pull the other one. Sonny Vaccaro is the guy who created the shoe company/AAU monster in the first place for Nike.
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Everyone knows Josh Jackson's deal. Peaches definitely got some love.