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EAST RUTHERFORD -- Give Ben McAdoo this: His predictability isn't limited to his play-calling. The Giants coach was predictably dismissive of claims that opponents have figured out his ineffective offense. "Like I said (Thursday) and (offensive coordinator) Mike Sullivan talked about it (Thursday), it's part of scouting, it's part of gamesmanship," McAdoo said. |
"Perfect, we've got them right where we want them"
Hmm...
He looked slightly amused when flowers whiffed on that goal line run, for example.
then, holding back what works, scheme wise, for next year?
Too busy trying to play heavy handed, complementary football I guess
(jk)
If I went fishing with somebody and they caught nothing all day and said for them to catch any fish conditions had to be perfect for their style of fishing I wouldn't be bringing them next time. Being consistently good is about reading the conditions in adapting to them from your depth of experience and practiced abilities to execute, and of course being prepared with the tools and attitude to do whatever it takes.
Obviously perfect conditions are ideal. But always fleeting. If conditions were always perfectly I deal it would be easy. It isn't. And that's why you do what you do to rise to the challenge.
That's why the games are played and everything is not done on paper.
Same.
He costs them big time in Philly with his stupid pet trick, which of course in his mind didn't matter, then has 2 key drops, steps out of the end zone on a 2 point conversion at Tampa andTHEN throws the HC/OC under the bus. As much as McAdoo is appearing to be in over his head so far this year, OBJ needs a big cup of STFU.
Every team has signature plays that the opposition knows are coming. If the plays are executed as designed, they are basically supposed to work. Everyone knew the Packer sweep or the Cowboys sprint draw or the Pats crossing patterns were coming, but that didn't mean anyone could consistently stop them.
The offense is fucking broken. That's the key element. It hasn't worked since week 3 2016 and even through the first few weeks of 2016 the offense never reached 30 points. It's never worked under McAdoo's HC duties and it doesn't appear like this will change, ever.
It's broken. But that's ok. Gamesmanship.
Territory
LOL
POW!!! Right to the moon, Alice!
:-(
Territory
Bottom line, at the end, this isn't much different than last year when they found ways to beat teams like Dallas, Chicago, Cincy, and the Rams late. Last year McAdoo relied on his defense to win games, and they did. Thus far the defense hasn't done the job and they blew 2 games which they found a way to win in 2016.
What is really annoying, I can't even think of the last time the Giants played a "complete" game, with the offense, defense and special teams blowing a team out. It didn't happen last year even going 11-5. Probably not since they blew out the Titans in 2014. When you are a team who never takes a game by the throat and with little margin of error, this crap happens.
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Maybe we should send him a replica of the shirt.
LOL. It would be like Abe Vigoda getting a cut-off fish head wrapped in newspaper in Godfather 1.
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Maybe we should send him a replica of the shirt.
LOL. It would be like Abe Vigoda getting a cut-off fish head wrapped in newspaper in Godfather 1.
Haha
We were winning late in the fourth quarter the last two weeks. Blame the coach!
We were winning late in the fourth quarter the last two weeks. Blame the coach!
These guys clearly are not prepared to play at the high level they're capable of. Some of that is definitely on the coach.
His job is to put the players in the best position to help the team win. Some of his calls, decisions, and game mis-management have put the players in a losing situation. That's 100% on him. He's the Head Coach.
And now we have players making comments to the media and some players not talking to the media at all. The inmates are running this show, Terps. That's 100% on the HC. He's a nipple hair away from losing this team. A loss on Sunday and he will.
This sounds like when the Skins claimed losing was part of their master plan
made me laugh
The Diva receiver is the only reason he has a job.. he would've never been hired otherwise.. same holds true for the GM..
That's what the girlfriend calls him.
I don't disagree with you about some toxicity in the room. No doubt that's happening.
And I'm not saying it's all on the coach, but he's definitely complicit.
made me laugh
Haha Baghdad Ben!
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In comment 13633198 Go Terps said:
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Blame the coach!
We were winning late in the fourth quarter the last two weeks. Blame the coach!
These guys clearly are not prepared to play at the high level they're capable of. Some of that is definitely on the coach.
His job is to put the players in the best position to help the team win. Some of his calls, decisions, and game mis-management have put the players in a losing situation. That's 100% on him. He's the Head Coach.
And now we have players making comments to the media and some players not talking to the media at all. The inmates are running this show, Terps. That's 100% on the HC. He's a nipple hair away from losing this team. A loss on Sunday and he will.
What drives me crazy is a guy like Adams gets behind the defense for 38 yards and is never looked at gain I thought
that he could emerge this season he has the size decent hands from what little we have seen .
Same with King I mean he always seems to manage to make
plays when nobody else is now granted he got injured early
on but even last year they banged there heads against the
wall with Cruz .
We can't move on soon enough.
Holy moly, man... it's getting downright weird at this point. You literally don't let a single opportunity go by to mention or bash this guy.
Every thread that involves him, you're there. Even when it doesn't, you still find a way to incorporate him.
Your football posts would actually be worth reading if you could focus on something else once in a while.. you're like a caricature at this point.
This was a huge, huge topic of discussion last year with the 11 personnel discussions. Did you miss all of that somehow?
It's okay to acknowledge that some of this may actually be someone else's fault or that this coach might actually not be doing a good job right now.
He seems completely unable to acknowledge where he's failing or coming up short and I have a feeling it's going to wind up being his downfall.
And if not for that "asshole WR," he'd probably already be out of a job.
He was also ahead of the curve on JPP/Vernon.
Is there anyone on BBI who doesn't know his stance on Odell at this point? I doubt it. But he still feels the need to re-hash it.
Every. Single. Day.
Let's blame the best player on the team! Toxic!
When do we blame the coach? When is it right?
Beckham will be making plays for the next 5 years if healthy. Mcadoo will be a TE or QB coach by then.
Non-issue
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I have to admit, I liked him at first but holy shit this guy is stubborn and clueless. He isn't long for this job.
Same.
Defensive, immature response by Mac
Should have just said “we examine everything. Just like we do every week.” In other words typical coach speak
Is there anyone on BBI who doesn't know his stance on Odell at this point? I doubt it. But he still feels the need to re-hash it.
Every. Single. Day.
Somebody has to keep saying it, because there are a boatload of people on this board that are too stupid to see it.
Let's blame the best player on the team! Toxic!
When do we blame the coach? When is it right?
Beckham will be making plays for the next 5 years if healthy. Mcadoo will be a TE or QB coach by then.
Yeah you're right... JPP has been a great Giant these last few years.
We have some dumb shit fans.
That Beckham is a diva?
Who cares. There's not a single thing to suggest that he's an actual problem in the locker room. His teammates defend him and stand with him time and time again despite these insinuations you keep trying to make that he's some sort of team cancer.
Plaxico Burress has a Super Bowl ring and so does Jeremy Shockey. Neither guys were bystanders, either. Both caught game winning TD passes. So, spare me the bullshit that "diva" players can't win in this league.
Beckham isn't the guy holding this team back right now. But somehow, this HC who sounds more clueless by the week is blameless?
He might as well just fax a copy of our game plan to the opposing team the week of the game at this point since he doesn't seem to care whether they know what we're running or not.
Nowhere did I say McAdoo was blameless. I don't think he's doing a great job this year.
But he isn't getting any help from the players. And to hear Beckham rip the play calling a few days after he couldn't be bothered to throw a block on a screen pass...
How you could stick up for him anymore is mystifying. Yeah he's a diva, but it's worse than that. Toxic.
Bottom line, at the end, this isn't much different than last year when they found ways to beat teams like Dallas, Chicago, Cincy, and the Rams late. Last year McAdoo relied on his defense to win games, and they did. Thus far the defense hasn't done the job and they blew 2 games which they found a way to win in 2016.
What is really annoying, I can't even think of the last time the Giants played a "complete" game, with the offense, defense and special teams blowing a team out. It didn't happen last year even going 11-5. Probably not since they blew out the Titans in 2014. When you are a team who never takes a game by the throat and with little margin of error, this crap happens.
Nice post as always Matt.
As an example, “In an effort to sow doubt about his obviously facile game plan, Belichick employed a little gamesmanship telling McAdoo during warmups that he recorded practice on video tape all week.”
I agree 100%! Getting rid of Reese will be the start of correcting the mistakes we see each week. The coaching staff hired by Reese is a disaster!
As for the theme of this thread, I wish that McAdoo was a non-issue with this franchise!
I blame him when he deserves to be blamed. We simply disagree on fault level. You seem to think the entire failure of the team right now lays on the shoulders of this one player, I think it goes way beyond that. This coach sounds like he's in over his head right now and a lot of the Giants' current issues are the types of things that happen with poorly coached teams.
I'd like Beckham to just shut up and play football but I'm willing to put up with the personalty if we keep getting the production.
I don't defend him all the time. When he takes dumb penalties, I say he needs to be smarter. When he says stupid things, I say he needs to grow up. But I care more about the guy who keeps scoring TD's and making plays for this offense because we desperately need it.
The times he's been out of the lineup or seriously limited, this offense has been downright pathetic. It's not a coincidence.
Also, this was a "thing" long before Beckham said anything.
This was a huge, huge topic of discussion last year with the 11 personnel discussions. Did you miss all of that somehow?
It's okay to acknowledge that some of this may actually be someone else's fault or that this coach might actually not be doing a good job right now.
He seems completely unable to acknowledge where he's failing or coming up short and I have a feeling it's going to wind up being his downfall.
And if not for that "asshole WR," he'd probably already be out of a job.
His defensive stance and his predictable answers are much like his offense uninspiring ...