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Ben McAdoo says offensive predictability is a 'non-issue'

gidiefor : Mod : 10/6/2017 1:01 pm
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EAST RUTHERFORD -- Give Ben McAdoo this: His predictability isn't limited to his play-calling.

The Giants coach was predictably dismissive of claims that opponents have figured out his ineffective offense.

"Like I said (Thursday) and (offensive coordinator) Mike Sullivan talked about it (Thursday), it's part of scouting, it's part of gamesmanship," McAdoo said.


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Stan in LA : 10/6/2017 1:06 pm : link
Stan  
gidiefor : Mod : 10/6/2017 1:07 pm : link
I had the same thoughts
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jlukes : 10/6/2017 1:08 pm : link
Maybe he doesn't think bad play calls and poor clock management  
Ivan15 : 10/6/2017 1:08 pm : link
Are related to offensive predictability !
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Danny Kanell : 10/6/2017 1:10 pm : link
I have to admit, I liked him at first but holy shit this guy is stubborn and clueless. He isn't long for this job.
is it conceivable that this guy has balls of steel  
idiotsavant : 10/6/2017 1:12 pm : link
and is stocking up shit for later? Like, next year later?
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mfsd : 10/6/2017 1:13 pm : link
This dude  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/6/2017 1:14 pm : link
is not long for this job.
It's part of gamesmanship?  
jcn56 : 10/6/2017 1:17 pm : link
"Sir, the enemy seems to know exactly what we have planned"

"Perfect, we've got them right where we want them"

Hmm...
its like he is systematically going through the book  
idiotsavant : 10/6/2017 1:18 pm : link
in effect creating a list of who can do what, player wise, an extended try out for next years line as it were.

He looked slightly amused when flowers whiffed on that goal line run, for example.

then, holding back what works, scheme wise, for next year?
If it’s part of “scouting and gamesmanship”  
mfsd : 10/6/2017 1:18 pm : link
how come we never seem prepared for what other teams are throwing at us on either side of the ball?

Too busy trying to play heavy handed, complementary football I guess
if someone were to ever invent  
santacruzom : 10/6/2017 1:18 pm : link
an easily-administered personality test that accurately ranks a person's stubbornness, that person will win the freaking Nobel Peace Prize. Imagine all the hiring mistakes that would never occur.
santa, no they wouldn't  
idiotsavant : 10/6/2017 1:20 pm : link








(jk)
Conditions must be perfect?  
mattlawson : 10/6/2017 1:23 pm : link
Hmm. Doesn't really mesh with my world view but what do I know about coaching on the NFL.

If I went fishing with somebody and they caught nothing all day and said for them to catch any fish conditions had to be perfect for their style of fishing I wouldn't be bringing them next time. Being consistently good is about reading the conditions in adapting to them from your depth of experience and practiced abilities to execute, and of course being prepared with the tools and attitude to do whatever it takes.

Obviously perfect conditions are ideal. But always fleeting. If conditions were always perfectly I deal it would be easy. It isn't. And that's why you do what you do to rise to the challenge.

That's why the games are played and everything is not done on paper.
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Beezer : 10/6/2017 1:28 pm : link
In comment 13633039 Danny Kanell said:
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I have to admit, I liked him at first but holy shit this guy is stubborn and clueless. He isn't long for this job.


Same.
mac-a-don't  
micky : 10/6/2017 1:37 pm : link
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He’s extremely stubborn.......  
Simms11 : 10/6/2017 1:42 pm : link
In fact he might be more stubborn they Tom Coughlin. If this season continues like it is, he will be on the hot seat next year. Of course that’s stating the obvious, but he doesn’t give me a warm and fuzzy.
Yeah... hand's on the wheel  
BamaBlue : 10/6/2017 1:49 pm : link
yeah, looks like he is quite stubborn, but since OBJ said it I have to  
Victor in CT : 10/6/2017 1:50 pm : link
ask: Were his 2 drops due to "predictability" too? Or the stepping out of bounds in the end zone on the 2 point conversion?

He costs them big time in Philly with his stupid pet trick, which of course in his mind didn't matter, then has 2 key drops, steps out of the end zone on a 2 point conversion at Tampa andTHEN throws the HC/OC under the bus. As much as McAdoo is appearing to be in over his head so far this year, OBJ needs a big cup of STFU.
Every time he speaks, I like him less.  
Matt M. : 10/6/2017 1:51 pm : link
I seriously hope Reese is let go or re-assigned and the new GM hires a new HC and entire coaching staff.
Coach...you just dropped to 0-5. What is your take?  
Matt M. : 10/6/2017 1:52 pm : link
Well, you can't win 'em all.
You know waht else is part of gamemanship? Winning a damn game  
PatersonPlank : 10/6/2017 1:54 pm : link
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He is right in a sense  
HomerJones45 : 10/6/2017 1:55 pm : link
There can't really be any big mystery with these teams the way they have film to break down, QC etc.

Every team has signature plays that the opposition knows are coming. If the plays are executed as designed, they are basically supposed to work. Everyone knew the Packer sweep or the Cowboys sprint draw or the Pats crossing patterns were coming, but that didn't mean anyone could consistently stop them.
You know what's predictable Slick?  
B in ALB : 10/6/2017 1:57 pm : link
You sucking ass again on Sunday.
forget predictable or unimaginative  
djm : 10/6/2017 2:07 pm : link
those terms aren't even relevant or important in my view. Some of the best offenses in NFL history were predictable. Some of the most memorable title winning teams were predictable on offense.

The offense is fucking broken. That's the key element. It hasn't worked since week 3 2016 and even through the first few weeks of 2016 the offense never reached 30 points. It's never worked under McAdoo's HC duties and it doesn't appear like this will change, ever.

It's broken. But that's ok. Gamesmanship.
Your OL is useless  
AnishPatel : 10/6/2017 2:08 pm : link
And our running game is God awful. It's hard to call plays when those factors are killing you. Not to mention we were playing from a deficit too.
Rapidly approaching  
BlueHurricane : 10/6/2017 2:13 pm : link


Territory
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ZogZerg : 10/6/2017 2:26 pm : link
In comment 13633046 mfsd said:
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LOL
I agree!  
TC : 10/6/2017 2:30 pm : link
All this crappy football is just a master strategy to lull the rest of the league into a false sense of security so that next season . . . .

POW!!! Right to the moon, Alice!

:-(
If this coach is our head coach  
chopperhatch : 10/6/2017 2:32 pm : link
At the start of next year, this season was a loss. I can handle it if it is recogbized immediately that he is not fit for the job and we fire him. I cannot handle it if we have a sub par year this year and then next year go into the season with same leadership.
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Named Later : 10/6/2017 2:32 pm : link
Alex, I'll take Famous Phrases of Clueless Coaches for $1000.

RE: Rapidly approaching  
Beer Man : 10/6/2017 2:46 pm : link
In comment 13633134 BlueHurricane said:
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Territory
Maybe we should send him a replica of the shirt.
I'm not necessarily  
Matt in SGS : 10/6/2017 2:53 pm : link
defending McAdoo here, but this predictable offense took the lead on the road the past 2 weeks in a row. If teams knew the exact play call, that wouldn't happen, and especially not at that critical time. McAdoo isn't the most creative offensive mind around based on all the limitations on the team, but it's not like every team has his playbook.

Bottom line, at the end, this isn't much different than last year when they found ways to beat teams like Dallas, Chicago, Cincy, and the Rams late. Last year McAdoo relied on his defense to win games, and they did. Thus far the defense hasn't done the job and they blew 2 games which they found a way to win in 2016.

What is really annoying, I can't even think of the last time the Giants played a "complete" game, with the offense, defense and special teams blowing a team out. It didn't happen last year even going 11-5. Probably not since they blew out the Titans in 2014. When you are a team who never takes a game by the throat and with little margin of error, this crap happens.
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PatersonPlank : 10/6/2017 2:54 pm : link
In comment 13633165 Beer Man said:
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In comment 13633134 BlueHurricane said:


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Territory

Maybe we should send him a replica of the shirt.


LOL. It would be like Abe Vigoda getting a cut-off fish head wrapped in newspaper in Godfather 1.
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mfsd : 10/6/2017 2:59 pm : link
In comment 13633169 PatersonPlank said:
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In comment 13633165 Beer Man said:


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In comment 13633134 BlueHurricane said:


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Territory

Maybe we should send him a replica of the shirt.



LOL. It would be like Abe Vigoda getting a cut-off fish head wrapped in newspaper in Godfather 1.


Haha
Guys don't catch or block  
Go Terps : 10/6/2017 3:31 pm : link
Blame the coach!

We were winning late in the fourth quarter the last two weeks. Blame the coach!
Good thing the star asshole in the locker room made this a thing  
Go Terps : 10/6/2017 3:36 pm : link
If McAdoo is out after this season there are several big name players that should be out with him.
RE: Guys don't catch or block  
B in ALB : 10/6/2017 3:43 pm : link
In comment 13633198 Go Terps said:
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Blame the coach!

We were winning late in the fourth quarter the last two weeks. Blame the coach!


These guys clearly are not prepared to play at the high level they're capable of. Some of that is definitely on the coach.

His job is to put the players in the best position to help the team win. Some of his calls, decisions, and game mis-management have put the players in a losing situation. That's 100% on him. He's the Head Coach.

And now we have players making comments to the media and some players not talking to the media at all. The inmates are running this show, Terps. That's 100% on the HC. He's a nipple hair away from losing this team. A loss on Sunday and he will.
B  
Go Terps : 10/6/2017 3:58 pm : link
I'm not doubting that you may be right. But I don't think it's all on him. I think there are some toxic people in that room, starting with our douche bag star receiver.
so Ben how is the weather today?  
gtt350 : 10/6/2017 4:07 pm : link
" I first have to look at the tape"
How does it go?  
montanagiant : 10/6/2017 4:13 pm : link
"He's playing 4-D chess and he's 22 moves ahead"

This sounds like when the Skins claimed losing was part of their master plan
msfd  
Dr. D : 10/6/2017 4:27 pm : link
Baghdad Ben

made me laugh
RE: B  
chuckydee9 : 10/6/2017 4:27 pm : link
In comment 13633235 Go Terps said:
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I'm not doubting that you may be right. But I don't think it's all on him. I think there are some toxic people in that room, starting with our douche bag star receiver.


The Diva receiver is the only reason he has a job.. he would've never been hired otherwise.. same holds true for the GM..
lol wow.  
prdave73 : 10/6/2017 4:35 pm : link
Massive mistake hiring this guy as HC. smh
RE: mac-a-don't  
JonC : 10/6/2017 4:46 pm : link
In comment 13633076 micky said:
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That's what the girlfriend calls him.
RE: B  
B in ALB : 10/6/2017 5:23 pm : link
In comment 13633235 Go Terps said:
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I'm not doubting that you may be right. But I don't think it's all on him. I think there are some toxic people in that room, starting with our douche bag star receiver.


I don't disagree with you about some toxicity in the room. No doubt that's happening.

And I'm not saying it's all on the coach, but he's definitely complicit.
That’s been his damn problem  
Rflairr : 10/6/2017 5:26 pm : link
Too stubborn to change
RE: msfd  
mfsd : 10/6/2017 5:28 pm : link
In comment 13633265 Dr. D said:
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Baghdad Ben

made me laugh


Haha Baghdad Ben!
Agree B and Jerry is right there with him  
Bluesbreaker : 10/6/2017 5:34 pm : link
RE: Guys don't catch or block
B in ALB : 3:43 pm : link : reply
In comment 13633198 Go Terps said:
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Blame the coach!

We were winning late in the fourth quarter the last two weeks. Blame the coach!


These guys clearly are not prepared to play at the high level they're capable of. Some of that is definitely on the coach.

His job is to put the players in the best position to help the team win. Some of his calls, decisions, and game mis-management have put the players in a losing situation. That's 100% on him. He's the Head Coach.

And now we have players making comments to the media and some players not talking to the media at all. The inmates are running this show, Terps. That's 100% on the HC. He's a nipple hair away from losing this team. A loss on Sunday and he will.

What drives me crazy is a guy like Adams gets behind the defense for 38 yards and is never looked at gain I thought
that he could emerge this season he has the size decent hands from what little we have seen .
Same with King I mean he always seems to manage to make
plays when nobody else is now granted he got injured early
on but even last year they banged there heads against the
wall with Cruz .
How about his offense has NEVER worked  
Dave on the UWS : 10/6/2017 6:50 pm : link
It’s been all OBJ making big plays for 4 years. Name 1 other thing in his offense was hat has been productive since he’s been here. I was hoping he would be a better HC than OC bud sadly he clearly is not. Whether JR should be gone is open for debate but clearly Mac needs to go. Sadly I doubt that happens (unless it becomes SO crystal clear that Mars has no choice.
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