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Defenderdawg : 10/8/2017 7:32 am

Schwartz NYP: Giants running out of chances to prove they’re not this bad

Healy NYDN: Giants vs. Chargers - The Playbook: 3 keys for a Big Blue victory

Stapleton The Record: Breaking down the Giants' Week 5 against the Chargers

RV SNY: Vacc's Week 5 Preview: Giants vs. Chargers, Sunday at 1 p.m

Salomone Giants vs. Chargers: 10 things to watch for


Leonard NYDN: McAdoo safe for now - but what happens with a loss to Chargers?


Glauber Newsday: Giants QB Eli Manning can thank Ernie Accorsi for keeping him out of San Diego — and L.A.

Myers NYDN: Sunday Morning QB: Ghosts of '04 Draft as Eli faces Philip Rivers

Mays The Ringer: An Era Is Ending for the Giants and Chargers
Eli Manning and Philip Rivers entered the NFL together in the 2004 draft. Now, with both the QBs nearing the end of their careers, their franchises need to start figuring out plans for the next chapter.


Serby NYP: Wayne Gallman has been waiting for this Giants opportunity


Kilinski NYDN: Brandon Marshall wins with his passion for mental health causes


Johnson The Trentonian: Poor run defense plaguing Giants entering Chargers game


Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet)
10/8/17, 6:25 AM
While #Giants DE Jason Pierre-Paul (shoulder, knee) is expected to play, DE Olivier Vernon (ankle) is unlikely to do so, sources say.


Schwartz NYP: McAdoo and Eli Apple aren’t seeing the same game


Grammling MMQB: Gameday 10 Things: Vintage Cam on the Field, Chiefs on a Tough Trip to Houston, What the Rams Need to Show Against Seattle
Also, those ultra-efficient Buffalo Bills, looking back at terrible offseason moves in Cleveland, true stories of fantasy football bad beats that really actually happened (I swear!), plus musical guest Pearl Jam!

Clark The Ringer: How to Watch Bad Football
This weekend’s early slate is the stuff of NFL nightmares. Plus, three more thoughts ahead of Week 5.

Odegard Cardinals Search For Lost Magic Against Eagles

Weinfuss ESPN AZ: It's not if the Cardinals miss David Johnson, it's how much

Somers AZ Central: Arizona Cardinals defense begins life without Markus Golden on Sunday against Eagles

Lee Baltimore Sun: Three stats that stand out ahead of Ravens game at the Raiders on Sunday

Zrebiec Baltimore Sun: Questions about Flacco mounting as Ravens hope to stop slide Sunday against Raiders

Wiederer Chicago Tribune: Huddle up: Bears working diligently to enhance Mitch Trubisky's comfort

Wiederer Chicago Tribune: Bears edge rusher Willie Young out for the season with triceps injury

LeGere Chicago Daily Herald: Chicago Bears having to make use of depth at linebacker

Schulze Cincy Jungle: Andy Dalton at the quarter mark in 2017 hl=en& tbm=nws& prmd=niv& source=lnt& tbs=qdr:h& sa=X& ved=0ahUKEwj_04T48ODWAhXIKCYKHRrSC_QQpwUIHg& biw=375& bih=519& dpr=2

Cabot Cleveland Plain Dealer: How DeShone Kizer is still benefiting from Josh McCown's wisdom

Cabot Cleveland Plain Dealer: Why Duke Johnson isn't the Browns' featured back

Ulrich Akron Beacon Journal: How Browns are approaching Myles Garrett’s debut

Farmer LA Times: Sky's the limit for TV shots during Packers-Cowboys game

Archer ESPN Dallas: Cowboys activate DE David Irving after suspension

Legwold ESPN Denver: Broncos' Von Miller on typical sacks pace, but believes he can do better

Birkett Detroit Free Press: Lions must control clock, get Cam Newton to turn it over to win Sunday

Birkett Detroit Free Press: Twitter mailbag: Ebron's trade value; just how good is Lions' offense?

Birkett Detroit Free Press: Lions QB Matthew Stafford has upped game by cutting down interceptions

Demovsky ESPN GB: The hardest play: Focusing on next snap after injuries like Davante Adams'

Creech Houston Chronicle: To progress, Texans must follow Titans rout with win over Chiefs

Serby NYP: What makes Deshaun Watson an emerging NFL superstar

Keefer Indianapolis Star: 5 storylines: Colts won't lose with Manning in the house, right?

Holder Indianapolis Star: Colts Q& A: Like father, like son for Jon Bostic

Jaguars rule out Brandon Linder, Jaelen Strong against Pittsburgh

Bailey Former Syracuse football QB Ryan Nassib released by Jacksonville Jaguars

O’Halloran Florida Times Union: Leaning on Leonard: Jaguars using Fournette, but the right way?

Paylor KC Star: Chiefs-Texans scouting report, key players to watch, and a prediction

Wang OC Register: Chargers at Giants: Who has the edge?

Canepa UTSD: To cure woes, Chargers must look within, not at their new home

Henne Bolts Sign RB Andre Williams; Waive S Dexter McCoil

Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter)
10/8/17, 2:55 AM
Chargers WR Tyrell Williams, listed as questionable for Sunday with a neck injury, will play against the Giants, per source.

Wang OC Register: Chargers defense looking to end takeaway drought, losing streak

Williams ESPN LA: Scary pass-rushers await Giants' struggling tackles

Williams ESPN LA: Casey Hayward, Chargers gear up for Odell Beckham Jr.

Gonzalez ESPN LA: For Rams, Sunday could be a big step toward regaining loyalty in L.A.

Hammond OC Register: Rams’ Jared Goff off to near-perfect start, but Seahawks present test

Bonsignore OC Register: Jared Goff remembers Richard Sherman’s knockout blow

Klein LA Times: With his impressive receiving skills, Rams' Todd Gurley could join an exclusive club

Brown Inside the Pylon: Sean McVay Transforms Todd Gurley into a Dominant Passing Game Weapon

Perkins Sun Sentinel: Dolphins hoping for homefield magic in long-awaited home opener

Lieser Palm Beach Post: QB Jay Cutler is who he’s always been, so get used to it

Salguero Miami Herald: Miami Dolphins playmakers not making big plays

Jackson Miami Herald: Some eye-opening Landry numbers; Dolphins nuggets

Goessling Minn Star Tribune: As Vikings know, not all ACL injuries are career killers

Hartman Minn Star Tribune: Loss of Dalvin Cook puts added pressure on Vikings offensive line

Tomasson Vikings WR Michael Floyd looking forward to first game after suspension

Reiss ESPN Boston: Quick-hit thoughts/notes around Patriots & NFL (Gronk; Belichick touts Rodney; Boger’s crew; who is Ryan Lewis?).

Guregian Boston Herald: Costly Patriots mistakes belie Bill Belichick’s teachings

Volin Boston Globe: The Patriots might have a little bit of a fourth-quarter problem

Yang Five games into the season, Tom Brady has been sacked more times than he was all last year

Underhill NO Advocate: Saints' Ken Crawley had to stop panicking before he could succeed

Teope Saints secondary coach Aaron Glenn eyes continued improvement of pass defense

Watkins Newsday: Christian Hackenberg can only watch as DeShone Kizer struggles with Browns

Graney LV Review Journal: Critical home stretch begins for Raiders against Ravens

Harris SJ Mercury News: ‘It’s a little embarrassing’: Why Raiders’ Del Rio is happy season is over for A’s

Kurtenbach SJ Mercury News: Is offensive coordinator Todd Downing the Raiders’ solution or problem?

Gehlken LV Review Journal: Raiders diagnose issues, look to right their running game

Duffy Eagle Eye: Carson Wentz Must Be Prepared For Arizona's Exotic Pressure Schemes

Bowen Eagles' Wendell Smallwood likely out vs. Arizona Cardinals; Blount, Clement must do more

Berman How Eagles' Zach Ertz has grown in his fifth season

Dulac Pittsburgh Post Gazette: Steelers-Jaguars has produced some bizarre moments in the past

Dulac Pittsburgh Post Gazette: Key matchup: Steelers RB Le'Veon Bell vs. Jaguars LB Myles Jack

Rutter Pittsburgh Tribune Review: Steelers notebook: Steelers' Martavis Bryant questionable to play because of illness

Gorman Pittsburgh Tribune Review: Linebacker Bud Dupree's prints on Steelers' pass rush

Rutter Pittsburgh Tribune Review: Blend of veterans, newcomers in Steelers secondary help improve pass defense, take away big plays

Branch SF Chronicle: The 49ers’ new mantra: Get the job done ‘in the moment of truth’

Condotta Seattle Times: Seahawks add Branden Jackson to roster, declare C.J. Prosise and Jeremy Lane out against Rams

Condotta Seattle Times: Seahawks to watch against Los Angeles Rams: Frank Clark, Tyler Lockett, J.D. McKissic and more

Fennelly TB Times: Bucs' clock buffoonery cost them chance to win

Stroud TB Times: Does Bucs' QB Jameis Winston get too pumped for big games?


Holder Indianapolis Star: Insider: With Peyton Manning statue celebration, No. 18 finally on the receiving end

Doyel Indianapolis Star: Peyton Manning now a statue, and our forever quarterback

Giants Birthdays 10-8

Eric Felton DB W-NO 1980 NYG 1980 10-8-1955

Domenik Hixon WR W-DEN 2007 NYG 2007-2012 10-8-1984

Giants on 10-8

10-8-1933 Boston Redskins 21 Giants 20
Redskins triumph in debut at Fenway Park

10-8-1939 Giants 14 Pittsburgh Pirates 7
Ward Cuff caught two third quarter touchdown passes from Ed Danowski to keep the Pirates winless.

10-8-1944 Giants 22 Boston Yanks 10
Missing Rings: The 1944 New York Football Giants
“New York opened their 1944 regular season with an unremarkable win at Fenway Park against the Boston Yanks. The Giants offense was far from a well-oiled machine as the young, old and slightly-damaged parts had yet to fully integrate. Herber struggled as he was still playing himself into shape. He completed just one pass for 12 yards, was intercepted twice and fumbled once, the latter being returned for Boston’s only touchdown. The Giants defense was its formidable self and the special teams made clutch plays. The defense recorded a safety and Cope blocked a punt that was recovered for a touchdown by Victor Carroll. Strong made both his field goals in the 22-10 victory.”

10-8-1950 Giants 21 Redskins 17
1950: Giants Prevail Against Redskins in Back-and-Forth Contest

10-8-1961 Giants 24 Cardinals 9
The Giants survived a sluggish start including a safety as the Cards Larry Wilson blocked a Don Chandler punt and it went out of the end zone.
Trailing 2-0 the in the first quarter Y.A. Tittle found Del Shofner for a 44 yard touchdown pass to give the Giants a 7-2 lead. In the third quarter Alex Webster rushed for a touchdown and San Huff returned a fumble for a touchdown to increase the Giants lead to 21-2.

Backup Cardinals QB Ralph Guglielmi found Billy Stacy for a 80 yard touchdown pass to curb the lead to 21-9 in the fourth quarter. However the Giants’ defense responded as Dick Lynch had three interceptions on the day.

10-8-1967 Giants 27 Saints 21
“Wednesday marked the 47th anniversary of one of the wildest games in New Orleans Saints history, a 27-21 loss to the New York Giants at Yankee Stadium. The Oct. 8, 1967 game wasn't as significant as the fight after it.
Saints linebacker Steve Stonebreaker accused Giants center Greg Larson of a late hit on Saints wide receiver Tom Hall on the penultimate play of the game and instigated a bench-clearing brawl after the clock expired. During the melee, fans poured on to the field, and owner John Mecom injured his hand while throwing a punch at Giants linebacker Freeman White. The brawl spilled into the stands and the exit tunnels at the stadium...”

10-8-1972 Giants 45 Saints 21
The Giants led 31-0 at halftime as they kept the Saints winless. Charlie Evans rushed for 87 yards and two first half touchdowns as well catching a 10 yard pass from Norm Snead for the first score of the game. The Giants intercepted Archie Manning four times (Crist, Flowers, Lockhart, Williams).

10-8-1978 Cowboys 24 Giants 3
Tony Hill caught two touchdown passes from Roger Stsubach and the Giants managed only 142 yards in total offense in the loss to the Cowboys. Giants QB’s Jerry Golsteyn, Joe Pisarcik, and Randy Dean were a combined 6-20 on passing attempts.

10-8-1984 49ers 31 Giants 10

10-8-1989 Eagles 21 Giants 19
“In a game of delirious, delicious knocks where little came easy, the New York Giants jumped on the Philadelphia Eagles early here today. The Giants led by 10-0 early in the second quarter, by 13-7 at halftime and by 16-7 early in the fourth quarter.
But then peculiar things began to happen: The Eagles' defense stiffened, Randall Cunningham broke loose with a piercing running and passing display and Philadelphia finished its turnabout by producing the game's only turnover with two minutes left. The result was an eye-rubbing 21-19 victory for the Eagles before 65,688 at Veterans Stadium.
The Giants slipped to 4-1; Philadelphia improved to 3-2.

10-8-1995 Giants 27 Cardinals 21 OT
PRO FOOTBALL;By Any Other Shape or Size, Armstead Is a True Linebacker
“If Armstead is indeed undersized, what do you do with him? If he is the fastest linebacker on the team, with 4.5-second speed for 40 yards, you use him in the nickel defense. If you play the San Francisco 49ers and their short-passing offense, you use him in the base defense. If you play the Cardinals, whose offense is more traditional, you use him in all passing situations.
That is why Armstead, who will turn 25 later this month, was on the field Sunday in overtime when the Cardinals faced third-down-and-3 from their 45-yard line. That is why he was able to intercept Dave Krieg's pass and return it 58 yards for the winning touchdown. That is why the ball he intercepted is being shipped to his home in Dallas, a gem for his trophy case.”

10-8-2000 Giants 13 Falcons 6
The Giants' Defense Gets the Falcons, and Credit for an Ugly Victory

10-8-2006 Giants 19 Redskins 3
Golsteyn, Piscarcik and Dean  
jeff57 : 10/8/2017 7:44 am : link
Those were the days.
Eli Apple doing some self-reflection...  
Jimmy Googs : 10/8/2017 9:02 am : link
“I know anytime something does happen, I take the approach that I didn’t really give it up, kind of,’’ Apple said. “It was just something that I did, that I made a mistake. It wasn’t, ‘The dude was just better than me.’ I never think that on the football field. So, anytime I line up on the football field, I have 100 percent confidence, no matter what.’’

Couple of quick ons...
- you are really giving it up
- dudes seem to be better than you every week
- you are being attacked
- turn the f-around and find the ball at some point!
Part 2  
Defenderdawg : 10/8/2017 9:47 am : link



Orr Ben McAdoo not on hot seat despite Giants' slow start
"Ben McAdoo is not in trouble," Rapoport reported on NFL GameDay Morning. "The Giants believe he is still a future very successful coach. He actually went to the playoffs last year. This is expected to be just a blip on the radar for the Giants."


Leonard NYDN: Giants' Olivier Vernon likely out vs. Chargers with ankle injury


Owaczarski Cin Enquirer: Bengals Xtra: Why making an NFL trade is so difficult

Pompei B/R: Kareem Hunt's Journey from Broke Draft Afterthought to Rookie Fantasy Stud
Your OL  
Defenderdawg : 10/8/2017 9:55 am : link
Jordan Raanan
ESPN Staff Writer

Source: Barring any last-minute setback by John Jerry (hamstring) the expectation is Justin Pugh moves back to left guard, Bobby Hart back in at right tackle and Jerry returns to right guard. So Hart vs Joey Bosa most of today.
remember the thread where a BBI person had  
idiotsavant : 10/8/2017 10:06 am : link
a girlfriend with borderline personality disorder?

without exception we were like, "run"...."run"...."run"

Until now, I had been unaware (one of the articles posted above) that Brandon Marshal admitted to having been diagnosed with it in 2011.


-I am a person that has spent more than half his life-

alternatively dealing with and caring for a person with a personality disorder of that type broadly. Ugh. (maybe BBI was a 'safe escape' (not really that safe, with all the bullies, but...)

And - whereas - I can say that on one hand, they really cannot help it, so it is hard to hate them, long term,...

.. those disorders are also disorders of the will of sorts, they rest on what the person truly and deeply values, needs, wants, so, it is also (a total contradiction, I know) also wrong to say that they lack culpability.

Now, it is awesome that Brandon is starting or supporting a non-profit to help kids with mental illness.

Wow, super. Its in the article, please feel free to read it.

But. Still. In adults, this stuff isn't really 'cured' all that often. Bringing him in doesn't really reflect well on Jerry Reese's broader understanding of things, to say the least.

It could easily be:

A) Marshal literally -cannot- play well or at a high level when its not 'about him'. (trust me, borderline and narsi, this is the thing, the swirling vacume of self relevance, always and no matter the circumstance )


B) He is medicated 'out-the-yingus'. Great, but then may well lack the mania that he may personally -need- to perform well in sports, at that level, to him it....feels apathetic, tuned out, flat.

Which may be very nice for his peers, family, friends, -other than- the sports fans and team mates, (considering what sorts of stuff PD people get up to so often, when untreated).
hehe Doomed  
idiotsavant : 10/8/2017 10:08 am : link
''Your OL
Defenderdawg : 9:55 am : link : reply

Jordan Raanan
ESPN Staff Writer

Source: Barring any last-minute setback by John Jerry (hamstring) the expectation is Justin Pugh moves back to left guard, Bobby Hart back in at right tackle and Jerry returns to right guard. So Hart vs Joey Bosa most of today.''
The only team in the league that functions worse with its  
Jimmy Googs : 10/8/2017 10:43 am : link
starting O-lineman in place...
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