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Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/8/2017 4:23 pm
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RE: i'll repeat what i wrote last week  
AcidTest : 10/8/2017 4:34 pm : link
In comment 13636293 TexasGmenFan said:
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the worst part of all of this is the fact that the Giants will make no moves and Reese will be handed they keys to blow his third top 10 pick in 4 years.


Agreed. Management won't do anything.
I thought the timeout  
B in ALB : 10/8/2017 4:35 pm : link
At the end of the game was just pure brilliance from McAdoo. He's a genius folks! We got a good one!
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yankees78 : 10/8/2017 4:35 pm : link
Horrible team. Horrible coach. Horrible GM.
RE: I have no  
short lease : 10/8/2017 4:35 pm : link
In comment 13636299 rebel yell said:
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problem losing out. We badly need high draft picks and MUST get rid of shitty HC and GM.


Agree 100% ... (2 birds 1 stone).


there's going to be spin doctoring etc  
micky : 10/8/2017 4:35 pm : link
and the "if we go on a run...yadda yada yadda" coming
Niners lose in OT again  
jeff57 : 10/8/2017 4:35 pm : link
0-5 with Giants and Browns.
As gallman  
mitch300 : 10/8/2017 4:36 pm : link
Hurt? He should of been in there instead of vereen.
RE: Chargers  
section125 : 10/8/2017 4:36 pm : link
In comment 13636312 AcidTest said:
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are awful. We are worse.

OL was terrible. Five sacks of Manning.

Very little pressure from the D, who again couldn't hold a lead. Were also gashed on the ground.

Don't understand why we didn't kick the XP instead of going for two from the seven yard line.

Gallman played well. Thompson with an INT, and very nice PD against Henry in the end zone. Wing had some nice punts.

Four injuries at the same position, but we were just bad.


Eli ran or moved himself into 3 of them.

You go for 2 pts to get the lead by 7 points, it was the right call, but they still cannot get lined up. I have a feeling the way Eli was talking to the Ref that the play clock was not set properly..
RE: Can't wait to see  
bluepepper : 10/8/2017 4:37 pm : link
In comment 13636314 section125 said:
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the various spins on this one. Epic fail. 4 WRs hurt in one game and the last one because of the inability to throw a simple slant.

Spags with his incredibly awful three man rush.

WTF was Vereen in the game for when Gallman is running roughshod over the Chargers.

And Gallman was catching the ball out of the backfield so no reason for Vereen there at least not at RB. Line him up as a receiver okay but Gallman much more likely to break off a long run
When we do college football Saturday posts  
dpinzow : 10/8/2017 4:37 pm : link
I'm going to put extra emphasis on Darnold, Rosen and Rudolph the rest of the way
RE: RE: RE: So, who do we like  
WillVAB : 10/8/2017 4:37 pm : link
In comment 13636286 Dave in Hoboken said:
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For the first pick in the draft?



Smart move would be to trade down, but Reese will stand pat and take a dogshit QB because that's what this fanbase deserves.



No. We deserve a QB to play until 50 and play crazily inconsistently.


Please tell me how a new QB makes this team better
RE: RE: i'll repeat what i wrote last week  
Annunaki : 10/8/2017 4:37 pm : link
In comment 13636319 AcidTest said:
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the worst part of all of this is the fact that the Giants will make no moves and Reese will be handed they keys to blow his third top 10 pick in 4 years.




Agreed. Management won't do anything.



The Mara's don't give a scratch about losing, they are making a shit ton of money regardless.
RE: RE: Darnold, Rosen or Jackson  
RDJR : 10/8/2017 4:37 pm : link
In comment 13636287 Carson53 said:
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Josh Allen from Wyoming.
I have my doubts about Jackson at the next level.
2-14 here we come.


Ill take Jackson without reservation.
RE: RE: RE: Darnold, Rosen or Jackson  
Carson53 : 10/8/2017 4:37 pm : link
In comment 13636311 jeff57 said:
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Josh Allen from Wyoming.
I have my doubts about Jackson at the next level.
2-14 here we come.



Jackson is a better prospect than Deshaun Watson.


I am not sure about the next level, Watson has played a month, let's let that marinate a bit please.
RE: So  
jeff57 : 10/8/2017 4:38 pm : link
In comment 13636316 jamesmichaelworm said:
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We are all convinced Webb is not the answer without playing a down. So why did they draft him?

So you're going to pass on a franchise QB because you have third round backup?
RE: 0-5, Beckham done, brutal schedule the rest of the way.  
short lease : 10/8/2017 4:38 pm : link
In comment 13636264 bceagle05 said:
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This is a two-win team that will be in a position to take the next franchise QB. Jets fans are gonna be so pissed.


2 win team? - take the rose colored glasses off BC. Homer.
Not so bad  
I Love Clams Casino : 10/8/2017 4:38 pm : link
If you do what I did today.....

I watched the 1 st half. I hit record on the DVR...I looked at the first Giants series, a 3 and out. It was at this point I realized that there probably isn't much the Giants can do to win this game......I did some house stuff went out for a drive, did a few odds and ends, the entire time accepting the fact that the Giants were going to be losers today based on the first series of the second half.....I just got home now, looked up the score, and sure enough they lost....no aggravation.....I will delete the recording. Much easier that way.
This team is Poorly constructed  
Bluesbreaker : 10/8/2017 4:38 pm : link
Reese bought his way out of a shitty defense but not only couldn't buy an offense by blowing the draft .
This team has no direction on offense how many slants and
dumpoffs can a team run .
Then they take the only Rb that gave them a spark sits on the
bench in a desperation drive . The under use of the TE's makes zero sense and our #1 pick had zero catches today
now they have beaten OBJ to a pulp trying to make next to
impossible plays was it only fitting that he got injured .
The writing has been on the wall for the past 21 games .
He does not inspire anyone with his crap attitude and not
taking responsibility . I pray we lose every game and fire
Reece at the bye . then clean house at the end of the season
Reese can't be making next years picks.  
Dave in Hoboken : 10/8/2017 4:38 pm : link
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Giants @ Niners  
spike : 10/8/2017 4:38 pm : link
Will be the battle for the first pick
RE: RE: So  
section125 : 10/8/2017 4:39 pm : link
In comment 13636359 jeff57 said:
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We are all convinced Webb is not the answer without playing a down. So why did they draft him?


So you're going to pass on a franchise QB because you have third round backup?


I do not see any as a franchise QB.
MacAdoo sucks and we are stuck with him for a few years  
nicky43 : 10/8/2017 4:39 pm : link
because Reese will never admit he was wrong to hire him and Mara won't fire Reese when in reality Reece should have been fired 4 or 5 years ago. So we are stuck with a clueless head coach who's biggest concern is how he looks on the sidelines and one of the worst GMs in the league. Even Jerry Jones is a ton better than Reese! Heck Jones is even a better HC than MacAdoo!
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/8/2017 4:39 pm : link
Jordan Raanan‏Verified account @JordanRaanan 5m5 minutes ago

Odell Beckham is headed for surgery, per source. He injured his leg in the fourth quarter.
RE: RE: RE: RE: So, who do we like  
jeff57 : 10/8/2017 4:39 pm : link
In comment 13636346 WillVAB said:
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For the first pick in the draft?



Smart move would be to trade down, but Reese will stand pat and take a dogshit QB because that's what this fanbase deserves.



No. We deserve a QB to play until 50 and play crazily inconsistently.



Please tell me how a new QB makes this team better


Mobility, if nothing else.
Organization is in disarray  
Unemployable : 10/8/2017 4:40 pm : link
And worst part is no one will be held accountable for this disaster. GM Head Coach, scouts, front office personnel will all come back.
RE: RE: RE: So  
dpinzow : 10/8/2017 4:40 pm : link
In comment 13636371 section125 said:
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In comment 13636316 jamesmichaelworm said:


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We are all convinced Webb is not the answer without playing a down. So why did they draft him?


So you're going to pass on a franchise QB because you have third round backup?



I do not see any as a franchise QB.


Darnold and Rosen are as close to sure things as you can get
Flowers as # 1 pick speaks for itself  
bc4life : 10/8/2017 4:40 pm : link
Now another 1st round pick Apple is benched. Is Pugh playing like 1st rounder?

Can't team build drafting like that.
RE: ...  
jeff57 : 10/8/2017 4:40 pm : link
In comment 13636377 Eric from BBI said:
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Jordan Raanan‏Verified account @JordanRaanan 5m5 minutes ago

Odell Beckham is headed for surgery, per source. He injured his leg in the fourth quarter.


Break? Ligaments?
RE: RE: RE: So  
jeff57 : 10/8/2017 4:41 pm : link
In comment 13636371 section125 said:
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We are all convinced Webb is not the answer without playing a down. So why did they draft him?


So you're going to pass on a franchise QB because you have third round backup?



I do not see any as a franchise QB.


Take another look.
RE: Organization is in disarray  
HomerJones45 : 10/8/2017 4:41 pm : link
In comment 13636383 Unemployable said:
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And worst part is no one will be held accountable for this disaster. GM Head Coach, scouts, front office personnel will all come back.
Jerry will walk the plank.
RE: RE: RE: RE: So  
section125 : 10/8/2017 4:42 pm : link
In comment 13636385 dpinzow said:
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We are all convinced Webb is not the answer without playing a down. So why did they draft him?


So you're going to pass on a franchise QB because you have third round backup?



I do not see any as a franchise QB.



Darnold and Rosen are as close to sure things as you can get


We'll see, but I doubt it.
At this point 0-16 could be a possibility  
Matt M. : 10/8/2017 4:42 pm : link
Regardless, this team isn't winning more than 2 games the rest of the way. Now, with all these injuries, I am confident the front office will give Reese and McAdoo a pass and they will screw up the top pick and next season as well.
I think the most frustrating part  
bluesince56 : 10/8/2017 4:43 pm : link
is that Mara doesnt seem to have any problems with The GM or Coach.
Shitty Team 0-5 start pathetic!  
quaseem1 : 10/8/2017 4:43 pm : link
It looks like SHIT, It smells like SHIT yet we keep stepping in it........sheesh Eric if you read this post
NOBODY and I mean NO ONE deserves the HOPE JOHNSON AWARD thus FAR this season
RE: ...  
short lease : 10/8/2017 4:44 pm : link
In comment 13636377 Eric from BBI said:
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Jordan RaananVerified account @JordanRaanan 5m5 minutes ago

Odell Beckham is headed for surgery, per source. He injured his leg in the fourth quarter.


Yeah ... that replay didn't look good.
RE: RE: ...  
dpinzow : 10/8/2017 4:45 pm : link
In comment 13636391 jeff57 said:
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Jordan Raanan‏Verified account @JordanRaanan 5m5 minutes ago

Odell Beckham is headed for surgery, per source. He injured his leg in the fourth quarter.



Break? Ligaments?


Most likely a completely torn ligament connecting the ankle to the foot
long injury list  
Steve in South Jersey : 10/8/2017 4:45 pm : link
McAdoo rattling off a bunch.
Giant fan since the late 1950s  
jintsjunkie : 10/8/2017 4:46 pm : link
Remember Robestelli, Tittle, Gifford, Summerall, Rote, Tark, Homer Jones, Bruce Mahar, Brad van Pelt et al. Season ticket holder for 10 years before leaving NY area. Memo to Mara: I'm done with the team, the organization until you fire the coach (aka Hanley without the tranny) and the GM (aka Cocky Putz). Over and out.
RE: Giants @ Niners  
Simms11 : 10/8/2017 4:46 pm : link
In comment 13636364 spike said:
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Will be the battle for the first pick


Giants are not winning that game with this offense. I wouldnt be surprised if they didnt win a game this year! Could be the worst year the Giants have had in many, many years. I remember the 0-6 start recently and it smells worse then that year as we have nobody left on offense that scares anybody and Eli has turned into widely inconsistent Eli again!
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AcidTest : 10/8/2017 4:46 pm : link
In comment 13636391 jeff57 said:
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Jordan Raanan‏Verified account @JordanRaanan 5m5 minutes ago

Odell Beckham is headed for surgery, per source. He injured his leg in the fourth quarter.



Break? Ligaments?


Either one or both. But he's done for the season. So is Harris. And maybe Marshall. Shepard looks like he can play again this season, but will likely be out several weeks. Rudolph will be promoted, and King will be resigned.
RE: RE: RE: ...  
section125 : 10/8/2017 4:47 pm : link
In comment 13636434 dpinzow said:
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Jordan Raanan‏Verified account @JordanRaanan 5m5 minutes ago

Odell Beckham is headed for surgery, per source. He injured his leg in the fourth quarter.



Break? Ligaments?



Most likely a completely torn ligament connecting the ankle to the foot


Could be, but more likely a displace fractured ankle and would not be surprised if the fibula is broken also.
Tired of the same bs  
TimsGiants : 10/8/2017 4:47 pm : link
On the slant to Beckham..

Who here didn't know exactly what we were running presnap?

As soon as I saw the formation and Vereen lined up 3 and 1/2 yards behind Manning I knew it was the slant to Beckham.

Like Chris Simms said..are tendencies worse than High School offense!
Legitimate question  
bc4life : 10/8/2017 4:48 pm : link
OLine - 2 1st round picks, 1 2nd rounder - and they can't get it together. Drafting or coaching?
Unless someone wants to operate under the premise that EVERYTHING  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 10/8/2017 4:48 pm : link
that happens on the field is a reflection of the head coach, the incessant bitching about McAdoo is tiring. Was it McAdoo's fault Eli missed every deep throw he attempted in the first half, including a probable TD? Was it his fault that imbecile JPP lined up offside, which led to the first TD? I'm hardly absolving Mac of blame, but everything can't be his fault.
RE: Flowers as # 1 pick speaks for itself  
short lease : 10/8/2017 4:48 pm : link
In comment 13636387 bc4life said:
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Now another 1st round pick Apple is benched. Is Pugh playing like 1st rounder?

Can't team build drafting like that.


I am wondering what they saw in Flowers now? Did they just see size/athleticism and think they could teach him?

What did they see that justified him being taken that high? He is the biggest OL bust since Tony Manderich (sp?).
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CoughlinHandsonHips : 10/8/2017 4:48 pm : link
It's not the Giants style to blow it up after 2 seasons with a head coach.

But if the Giants win 3 games or less, it probably has to happen.

I don't like Mcadoo as much as Coughlin, but this is more on Reese. How can Mcadoo call a game when both offensive tackles need help when the D only rushes 4? leaves you with 4 guys running routes against a loaded secondary. Throw in that the interior can't block anybody either.

Reese has tried and failed to add olinemen, both in FA and the draft. It may be time to clean house

Where was Engram n the offense  
jeff57 : 10/8/2017 4:49 pm : link
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Giants have an OL built  
I Love Clams Casino : 10/8/2017 4:49 pm : link
For a QB like Russell Wilson, or Aaron Rodgers.
Injuries aside  
family progtitioner : 10/8/2017 4:49 pm : link
Is this the most disappointing season in many years? From sure playoff contenders to maybe bottom of league in 5 games. This is worse, to me, then 2003. Time to clean it out, get a new qb, coach, GM. If they dump Eli and keep this staff, though, I'm done with the Giants. Hate this group
RE: Tired of the same bs  
section125 : 10/8/2017 4:52 pm : link
In comment 13636451 TimsGiants said:
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On the slant to Beckham..

Who here didn't know exactly what we were running presnap?

As soon as I saw the formation and Vereen lined up 3 and 1/2 yards behind Manning I knew it was the slant to Beckham.

Like Chris Simms said..are tendencies worse than High School offense!


Nothing wrong with the play at all - gets 5 to 6 yards minimum, if the QB doesn't throw the ball over the receivers head and get his ankle broken..
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