Name the team/organization that Eli can properly end his career with? I believe Jacksonville would be a good spot, perhaps Miami or Minnesota. Arizona may need a veteran quarterback too. I haven't been following this season that closely, but those are some teams that come to mind. My what a terrible way to go out! 0-16? Has a QB gone to HOF with that on the resume?
Problem is that the team was put together by a GM who doesn't understand football, who apparently conned ownership into thinking its on everyone else.
Overthrew a few people? Yes, to be sure.
But winning teams are built with fundamentals that we lack.
This mess is at the feet of John Mara/Steve Tisch even more than it is Reese.
Incompetence breeds incompetence
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JAX makes a ton of sense. They have an ascending defense, a solid OL, and a very good running game. All they would need is maybe another WR to compete w Robinson and Hurns next year. That division is wide open and he'd instantly make them a player in the AFC.
i'm not sure it's clear that eli is a significant upgrade over blake bortles at this point. and it pains me to say that.
It should because it's a dumb comment.
Eli is a mediocre QB this year, but mediocrity is on another level than what Bortles is and how the Jags are desperately trying to hide him.
it's a moot point since eli is essentially untradeable until after next year but i'm not sure it's clear that any team including jacksonville will be chomping at the bit to trade for a 38 year-old eli. not saying bortles is anything better than average, but it is only his 4th year in the league and yes, he's been inconsistent. but recall that there were legit doubts about eli late into his 4th year (e.g., the 4-pick game v. minnesota as the team was fighting for a playoff spot), pretty much until he answered the doubters with that first playoff run and superbowl win that year.
Eli is untradeable because he has a NTC. When people are saying he could play for another team, they mean (or should mean) it will be after he's cut and will be a free agent, no strings other then cash.
It will take some work by the cap guys in the FO, but it's definitely a real possibility he will be gone after this season, given where the team is at.
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That playing for one team his entire career was something important to him to try and accomplish?
Then he's going to retire because he's not going to be a Giant next year.
It's a bit of a hit, but they can make not picking up his option work. It's not an Everest-ish climb to do so, especially with how much if a rebuild they're going to be going through (hopefully).
Wanna bet?
I'd take a ban bet on this actually, but odds are I probably won't be posting here that much longer anyway, so it would be pointless.
Not a good game from him. He's a mid level qb at the point. And he's near the end- hope he realizes to hang em up or take a trade.
Thank you hassan. I agree. He had a very good 3rd quarter, thought he was waking up. But the first two sacks were on him and the fumble was on him.
Last drive, leading, 4 minutes ...I think...
You can't be serious.
This is ridiculous. He was constantly harassed but still threw for 2 TDs and 225 yards. He kept us in it.
Then call in Victor Cruz to fill in ,finish out the year and start new .Reese should have nothing to do with next years draft!!!
What is occurring with our Offense is getting guys hurt now. And unfortunately Eli is stuck in the middle of it...
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Then he's going to retire because he's not going to be a Giant next year.
Eli's not going to retire unless he suffers a major, major injury. The Giants aren't going to get out of this hole that simply.
Actually they get out of this pretty easily by Eli simply playing out 2018 either as the starter or in the Kurt Warner 2004 role
Eli won't play the Warner role, knowing going in that he could be benched at any minute. If something were to happen in season to greatly disrupt things that would be one thing, but he's not going to set himself up that way. It's not how Mannings work.
I think people are overestimating how difficult it will be to make his deal work, in terms of parting ways. They didn't stick in those roster options for kicks. And they're going to be rebuilding, which changes the financial landscape even more.
What a dumb dumb comparison. Warner signed with the Giants a little morecthan a month after the Giants traded for the player taken number 1 overall who was looked at as the best QB prospect in that draft. He also was jobless at that point and for all intents and purposes used the Giants to lengthen his career.
Eli Manning HAS a job and a contract with the Giants. He has been here for a decade and a half. He is the franchise leader in virtually every major statistical offensive category, has two remarkable SB victories under his belt, and is universally beloved by his fan base. If the Giants are fortunate enough to usher in a new QB era while Eli finishes his, Eli will not be playing a "role." He will be playing out his contract.
The dumb shit we read on this board is almost as bad as the Giants starting 0-5
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JAX makes a ton of sense. They have an ascending defense, a solid OL, and a very good running game. All they would need is maybe another WR to compete w Robinson and Hurns next year. That division is wide open and he'd instantly make them a player in the AFC.
i'm not sure it's clear that eli is a significant upgrade over blake bortles at this point. and it pains me to say that.
It should because it's a dumb comment.
Eli is a mediocre QB this year, but mediocrity is on another level than what Bortles is and how the Jags are desperately trying to hide him.
it's a moot point since eli is essentially untradeable until after next year but i'm not sure it's clear that any team including jacksonville will be chomping at the bit to trade for a 38 year-old eli. not saying bortles is anything better than average, but it is only his 4th year in the league and yes, he's been inconsistent. but recall that there were legit doubts about eli late into his 4th year (e.g., the 4-pick game v. minnesota as the team was fighting for a playoff spot), pretty much until he answered the doubters with that first playoff run and superbowl win that year.
Put Eli on a competent team with a competent coaching staff and he'll produce. He's produced this year with an absolute shit show around him from top to bottom.
As others have said, Eli has a no trade clause. But if he was available, there's no doubt JAX would be interested. There's the Coughlin connection, Eli is extremely durable, he can still play, and JAX is arguably a QB away. It would be like Warner going to AZ.
Kevin Gilbride was not the problem
Hell, even Perry Fewell was not the problem
Am I getting warmer??