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Eli Apple not happy

B in ALB : 10/9/2017 8:10 am
He was benched for the first three series yesterday and the defense came up with three stops in a row including a safety.

In comes Apple and the chargers start driving the football down the field.

But he's not happy about being benched. Meanwhile his first four games have been abyssmal. 21 catches on 30 targets. DPIs, TDs given up, easy third down and long conversions.

But you're not happy. And he goes on to complain about the team culture.

This is Jerry Reese's and Ben McNcheese's New York Giants folks.
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RE: RE: RE: Apple reminds me a lot of Cory Webster  
Beer Man : 10/9/2017 10:54 am : link
In comment 13638770 Beer Man said:
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Many were ready to run Cory out of town after his first few seasons. CB is one of the most difficult positions in the pros, Eli is going to have his ups and downs while he learns (just as Webster did).



Every time the Giants draft a corner and he struggles early, fans point to Corey Webster. The same was said about Prince.

Giant fans make these sort of comparisons better than any fan base in all of sports.

Hell, people are still trying to find reasons why this season is just like 2007 and 2011.

Other than Prince and Apple, I don't believe the Giants have spent a premium pick on a CB since Webster. I don't remember anyone comparing Prince to Webster, Prince's issues were he couldn't stay healthy.
Almost forgot Arron Ross. But, he played along side Webster, another player that couldn't stay healthy, and left the Giants 2 years before Cory's career as a Giant ended.
Well  
NNJ Tom : 10/9/2017 11:06 am : link
At least his pants didn't fall down, so there's that.
I hope he reads these posts.  
Giant John : 10/9/2017 11:15 am : link
Then stops talking and just plays to his capability.
Just wait until  
Modus Operandi : 10/9/2017 12:02 pm : link
Mama Apple weighs in on her blog, blaming the GM, players and coaching staff for her son's inability to run with his head turned.
Out of everybody on the roster  
SHO'NUFF : 10/9/2017 12:05 pm : link
Eli Apple is the only one they hold accountable for his play? RFLMAO...
RE: Apple  
mdc1 : 10/9/2017 3:20 pm : link
In comment 13638807 AcidTest said:
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is having the same problems in the NFL that he had in college, namely locating the ball in the air, and turning his head.

Apple is not a boundary corner, at least not right now. He needs to be in the slot, where the play is more likely to be in front of him, and his problems with ball location are less likely to happen. Of course, spending a top 10 pick on a slot corner is not a good use of resources.

I would use Hunter on the outside.
that and spending a top 10 pick on a guy playing against stellar competition weekly at Ohio St in the Big 10. Probably played 2 tough games a year. Same with Flowers, how many fucking years did he actually play football.
I think this is the first player  
montanagiant : 10/9/2017 3:54 pm : link
Coming out about a broken culture in the Clubhouse..
RE: He may be right  
chopperhatch : 10/9/2017 5:45 pm : link
In comment 13638462 jvm52106 said:
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but he is part of the problem though. What I see from those comments is a guy who wonders how others can play poorly and not be subjected to rules like this. I agree..

The coaching staff is woefully inadequate and the make up of this team lacks a number of things.

Who is the VETERAN leader on the Oline? Pugh? I don't think so. Jerry? Hell no. Richburg? Umm, also no.. TE's are all made up of younger guys and one guy who just joined the team who doesn't play enough to be a leader. Qb... Eli has never been the LEADER of players, just an example of doing your job and being an iron man. That is good but we still don't have a leader. Veteran RB as a leader? Nope, we don't have that either. WR? Hell NO!!! Our best WR and best player is not a LEADER by any stretch of the imagination. Marshall?? Too new, too ineffective and has never been a LEADER in the past... Our Offense has no leadership to right the ship. The Coach is clearly not that guy either.

Defensively.. Now, Harrison is a good to very good player but no idea on his leadership abilities. JPP? Never really been his thing. OV? No idea... LB's we have no really good veteran who can lead with both attitude adn play. JC is a leader supposedly but his play does nothing to change the games outcome, at least positively. Our secondary? Collins could be but he is playing more like 2015 than 2016... Product of the overall defense and lack of a safety next to him I would assume.

I can see why Apple said what he said and he is most likely right. Doesn't change the fact that he has played like crap and does not look like our future shut down CB...


I have said this quite a bit the past two years. The thing is that nobody WANTS to take a leadership role on this team either. Though I think Harrison has been the closest thing to that. Last year zi thought JPP was making quite a few moves in that direction. But this year he has been silent.

You have to wonder if some of these guys have stayed silent because they are not fans of the staff either. Being outspoken, disobedient, disruptive and poisoning the well are counterproductive in terms of future contracts and getting the trust of other staffs. Maybe the most telling and effective way they can show their disapproval might be like a dead fall: let the coaching staff die by their own weight of poor decisions.

Might sound like a reach, but I have not seen such outspoken players so silent.
RE: Maybe its not as ingenius  
markky : 10/9/2017 5:54 pm : link
In comment 13638756 sinister_bee98 said:
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as we think drafting all these 20 year olds. Its too much. Just get a hard nosed competitor instead of a kid

i've never liked it. you have them a couple of years before they're ready, competing against more mature players. it doesn't seem to make any sense.
Some posters  
XBRONX : 10/9/2017 6:10 pm : link
say Apple had a real good rookie year. Saw this stat from his rookie year don't know if it is accurate.Apple has allowed 60.7 percent of passes thrown his way to be caught and surrendered a passer rating of 92.6 when targeted.
Eli Apple is not Happy  
Jim in NH : 10/9/2017 6:13 pm : link
Neither am I
Brown recluse  
XBRONX : 10/9/2017 6:43 pm : link
You are right on. Same thing with WR's, if they struggle early we hear the Amani Toomer rant.
'Eli Apple not happy'...  
Torrag : 10/9/2017 8:52 pm : link
...he needs to look in two places, a mirror and the game film. He's regressed badly. Want to play? Get better. How many times does it take not getting your head around to find the ball resulting in a TD or PI before you get a fucking clue. He's been awful so far this season and has earned a stretch on the pine..
Why all the comments about Eli Apple's mom?  
eclipz928 : 10/9/2017 9:00 pm : link
She has nothing to do with this, let's stay classy and leave the players' family out of it.
RE: Why all the comments about Eli Apple's mom?  
SHO'NUFF : 10/9/2017 10:01 pm : link
In comment 13640160 eclipz928 said:
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She has nothing to do with this, let's stay classy and leave the players' family out of it.


But she put herself in the spotlight since draft day...
RE: RE: Maybe its not as ingenius  
sinister_bee98 : 10/9/2017 10:05 pm : link
In comment 13639775 markky said:
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as we think drafting all these 20 year olds. Its too much. Just get a hard nosed competitor instead of a kid


i've never liked it. you have them a couple of years before they're ready, competing against more mature players. it doesn't seem to make any sense.


Agreed. If they don't lose their confidence getting their ass handed to them because they're too young, they become good just in time to hit free agency.
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