Will public opinion sway the Mara's to clean house

will lead to a Mara statement at the end of the year, which will include some very strong words and an ultimatum. I very sincerely doubt Reese gets fired and Mcadoo gets to stay on, so in this scenario, both will remain.

Extremely bad press, a winless season and people not showing up to games, booing, wearing bags could conceivably get Mara to act and fire both.

While the latter is probably needed, if I were a betting man, I'd say the odds are more likely of the former actually happening.

to fly an "Enough of this Shit" banner over Giants stadium

not at this point. The owners opinion and the public opinion are most likely one in the same by now. Plus, the team had no wins before the injuries.

Ultimately, I think changes and decisions like these are best done independently of public opinion, by an ownership team that has justifiable confidence in its processes and priorities and is willing to take calculated, rational risks.

I don't know if we've got that ownership team in place.

I think about the laughing stock the Golden State Warriors were, for years... to the point where your average fan didn't even mind if the Warriors were going to post another losing season as long as they were entertaining on the court while doing so. Joe Lacob may be a douchebag, but he and his staff deserve a ton of credit for the complete turnaround of a moribund franchise from top to bottom. They took a lot of risks but they were ultimately smart risks, and they seemingly nailed all of them. And they were greedy for more success, firing Mark Jackson after two consecutive playoff appearances for a franchise that had not seen many of those in 30 years.

As someone who likes the NBA but not nearly as much as I like football, I'd transfer the Warriors recent success to the Giants in a second if I could.

also afraid the injuries will be an excuse. Not sure it will make a difference, but I'm hoping the Jets win some games.

Can't be shown the door NOW. Mac came to us highly recommended.

In comment 13639513 Giant John said:

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Can't be shown the door NOW. Mac came to us highly recommended.

Well, that recommendation has met reality and McAdoo is a quarterbacks coach. He needs to go.

Reese, Ross, Mara - need to go now so we can get a fresh perspective in here.

Mara didn't say anything during that mess. I don't anyone that should say be able to say they started 0-6 twice and kept their job.

to stay? This is being discussed across 20 threads and it's hard to keep track. I wish Eric would set up a poll or something....

In comment 13639557 larryflower37 said:

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Mara didn't say anything during that mess. I don't anyone that should say be able to say they started 0-6 twice and kept their job.

You sure Mara didn't say anything? No, he's not going to say anything during the season. But he'll have his say when it's over.

Link - ( New Window )

the day the Giants start following the opinions of some of you mouth breathers is the day I turn in my fan card.

Mara and Tisch will be publically supportive of Reese and McAdoo.

What goes on behind the scenes could be a very different story.

Even after 2015 ownership were supportive of Coughlin, yet after a meeting with owners and Reese, Coughlin "chose" to resign, note Coughlin wasn't fired.

The real question is whether Mara and Tisch put the hard word on Jerry Reese to get things sorted.

In 2013, the Giants somehow finished strong. That saved TC's job.

If McAdoo can do this, he's probably OK. If he loses the team, he gone, and Spags probably takes over.

It really is time to blow this up and bring in a new GM,coach and quarterback. Last year was a fluke if you look at the last six seasons. This team sill be fortunate to win more then 3 games,if that. How can you not change everything? I don't want to hear about the injuries. This team is awful without any injuries. They have shown that. Time to turn the page.

- and I hope they are - I'd like to see JR go first (and soon). Bring in a new GM and give him time to evaluate the current roster and establish his scouting department. With all the injuries, see how the young guys play. Use that info to create a draft board that fits the greatest needs of the team. Once the season is over bring in a new coach who fits the new GM's approach and the "talent" the team has.

but if the downward spiral continues, I think Reese gets canned. I think a scenario in which Mac goes and Reese stays is less likely.

Reese gets fired, a replacement is hired. The coaching decision is made after a GM is in place.

Clean this place out including the ball boy and janitors .
Send Reach the coaching staff and the scouts for God's sake .
OBJ the crown jewel ? They had him pegged in HS might have
been the best kept secret we ever had Eli and family knew
all along this kid was special ..

That will be the end of Eli , I don’t think he’s really into learning a new system in his last 2 years and he does have a no trade clause in his contract ...... that could get interesting but I get the feeling Eli wants to finish his career here

But, I fear that the injuries that are mounting are going to buy Reese and McAdoo another year, which will set the franchise back another year or two.

In comment 13640221 NikkiMac said:

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That will be the end of Eli , I don’t think he’s really into learning a new system in his last 2 years and he does have a no trade clause in his contract ...... that could get interesting but I get the feeling Eli wants to finish his career here

I see it the other way. Keeping McAdoo will ruin Eli by wasting his last years. Firing Reese and McAdoo, assuming they hire the right guys, saves Eli's late career with the Giants.

In comment 13639513 Giant John said:

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Mac came to us highly recommended.

By who?