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NFT: USMNT vs TnT tonight - 8p - beIN Sport

B in ALB : 10/10/2017 7:38 am
Tonight's the night. Win and in. Tie and maybe in. But it looks good for the fellas to make the WC again.

Here's the breakdown.

If the U.S. beats Trinidad and Tobago
It qualifies for the 2018 World Cup by finishing in third place in the CONCACAF region.

If the U.S. ties Trinidad and Tobago -
The U.S. will almost certainly still qualify for the World Cup. The only way the U.S. could drop out of third place would be if Panama beats Costa Rica by eight goals or Honduras beats Mexico by 12 goals. In the unthinkable event that both those happened, a tie would eliminate the U.S. If one of them happened, a tie would put the U.S. into a playoff against either Australia or Syria in November.

If the U.S. loses to Trinidad and Tobago - then if Panama beats Costa Rica and Honduras beats Mexico, then the U.S. would be eliminated and miss out on the World Cup for the first time since 1986. If Panama and Honduras lose, the U.S. would still qualify in third place. And if Panama or Honduras win but the other ties or loses, then the U.S. would finish fourth and go into that Syria/Australia playoff.

Apparently the field in TnT was completely under water and the playing conditions will be awful tonight. The field is now surrounded by a huge moat if water. Big surprise there.
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Let's go T and T ...  
Spider56 : 10/10/2017 7:41 am : link
I can't stand Bruce Arena.
I know  
Jon in NYC : 10/10/2017 7:43 am : link
we're coming off a dominant performance, and it's TnT, but I'm not taking any chances if I'm Bruce. Take out the 2nd striker and put in either Dax or Acosta and play a 4-2-3-1 to boss possession and have a stronger defensive shell.

Weird guy doesn't like the coach  
B in ALB : 10/10/2017 7:54 am : link
So he roots against the US?

I swear the mental patients have really come out of the woodwork lately. This place is crazy.
All Greece has to do is beat Gibraltar at home  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 10/10/2017 8:07 am : link
and they make the European playoff round. Then it's the luck of the draw - they could play anybody from Italy and Portugal to Denmark and Switzerland.

But as context for anybody complaining about Bruce Arena, he is 10 times the manager that the idiot Greece has - he's cost them a bunch of points in qualifying with lineups and subs.
B..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/10/2017 8:23 am : link
you'd think the soccer threads would be a safe haven from morons.

The only wild card here is that T&T conditions usually leave less than to be desired, but we have a massive talent advantage.
Should win and I just  
section125 : 10/10/2017 8:29 am : link
hope nobody gets hurt in that slopfest.

FIFA needs to get control of CONCACAF, between shitty unkempt fields to the cheap, nasty fouls this conference needs to grow up. I understand many of the countries are impoverished, but this is big time football and if there are standards for field size and natural turf, then the fields should have grass on them and not dirt patches and moats.
VAR would go a long way towards cleaning  
jv : 10/10/2017 8:35 am : link
some of the bullshit up. I have a tough time seeing field conditions changing anytime soon. Maybe if Jack Warner had put some money towards the team and facilities instead of lining his pockets they'd be in a better place.
take care of business  
John in Loudoun : 10/10/2017 8:49 am : link
With this much on the line, not way should the US lose to T&T. Really hoping the field conditions don't play a huge factor. Assuming the worst in regards to the field, if you are Arena, do you play more defensive minded? Maybe start Bedoya to help out Bradley?
RE: B..  
B in ALB : 10/10/2017 11:52 am : link
In comment 13640811 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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you'd think the soccer threads would be a safe haven from morons.

The only wild card here is that T&T conditions usually leave less than to be desired, but we have a massive talent advantage.


We're never spared the ramblings of the mentally defective. It's a cross to bear for sure.
Dangerous Game Tonight  
Jeffrey : 10/10/2017 12:15 pm : link
The condition of the field will almost certainly be horrible. Not certain whether this is a turf filed or grass, but if the latter it could really slow the game down as you simply cannot dry it out by tonight. Additionally, while both Costa Rica and Mexico have home games, both are already in and there is no way to know who they will feature in their lineups against two desperate teams.

US need an early score in this game as the longer it goes without a goal the more they leave to chance.
Lots of  
Pete in MD : 10/10/2017 1:35 pm : link
interesting qualifiers today. Many big-time countries (France, Netherlands, Argentina, Portugal), still have some work to do.
Australia  
Pete in MD : 10/10/2017 1:39 pm : link
beat Syria today in extra time so they would be the play-off opponent. Hopefully, it won't come to that.
RE: Lots of  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 10/10/2017 1:49 pm : link
In comment 13641556 Pete in MD said:
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interesting qualifiers today. Many big-time countries (France, Netherlands, Argentina, Portugal), still have some work to do.


France is in OK shape but the Dutch are finished.
RE: I know  
RobCarpenter : 10/10/2017 1:56 pm : link
In comment 13640765 Jon in NYC said:
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we're coming off a dominant performance, and it's TnT, but I'm not taking any chances if I'm Bruce. Take out the 2nd striker and put in either Dax or Acosta and play a 4-2-3-1 to boss possession and have a stronger defensive shell.


Think they should open with the same squad as vs. Panama, then (hopefully) when they score go to a more defensive set.
Two questiosn about UEFA qualifying  
PaulBlakeTSU : 10/10/2017 3:01 pm : link
1. Why is Netherlands done? Wouldn't a win give them enough points to be in the Top-8 non AQs? Or is the playoff format the Top 8 2nd-place finishers of the 9 groups?

2. With Russia not needing to qualify as host of the World Cup, how do they prepare for it? Friendlies? All of the other European countries in a bid to qualify get at least 10 competitive matches to figure out their squad.
RE: RE: Lots of  
Pete in MD : 10/10/2017 3:03 pm : link
In comment 13641583 Bobby Humphrey's Earpad said:
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In comment 13641556 Pete in MD said:


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interesting qualifiers today. Many big-time countries (France, Netherlands, Argentina, Portugal), still have some work to do.



France is in OK shape but the Dutch are finished.

I just noticed the goal differential the Dutch have to make up. Yeah, I'd say they're done.
also  
PaulBlakeTSU : 10/10/2017 3:20 pm : link
after looking at different qualifications, the African system is stupid it's crazy to me that Australia and New Zealand are in different confederations.
RE: Two questiosn about UEFA qualifying  
Pete in MD : 10/10/2017 3:25 pm : link
In comment 13641682 PaulBlakeTSU said:
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1. Why is Netherlands done? Wouldn't a win give them enough points to be in the Top-8 non AQs? Or is the playoff format the Top 8 2nd-place finishers of the 9 groups?

2. With Russia not needing to qualify as host of the World Cup, how do they prepare for it? Friendlies? All of the other European countries in a bid to qualify get at least 10 competitive matches to figure out their squad.


1. Yes, it's the top 8 second place finishers.

2. It is definitely a disadvantage IMO. They can schedule friendlys and hosted the Confederations Cup this Summer (sort of a World Cup lite that serves as a dress rehearsal for the host country and includes cup winners from each confederation.) But in the case of Russia, they are no lock to make the World Cup every time so I think they will take the automatic bid.
Netherlands 2-0  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 10/10/2017 3:28 pm : link
5 more goals to go!
what is beIN Sport?  
Enzo : 10/10/2017 4:25 pm : link
Is that a channel I might get via FIOS?
RE: what is beIN Sport?  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 10/10/2017 4:28 pm : link
In comment 13641779 Enzo said:
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Is that a channel I might get via FIOS?


Yes it is available on FIOS, right before CNN
Peace to Greece, they are in  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 10/10/2017 4:44 pm : link
Portugal and France are now straight through to Russia. Sweden, Switzerland and Greece are in the playoffs. Netherlands are out.
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Jim in Fairfax : 10/10/2017 4:58 pm : link
Water polo!  
Pete in MD : 10/10/2017 5:24 pm : link
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That field is a fucking disgrace  
TommytheElephant : 10/10/2017 5:28 pm : link
Biggest WCQ since possibly 1989 and this is the piece of shit they have to play on?
For the UEFA 2nd round draw:  
Pete in MD : 10/10/2017 5:34 pm : link
Pot 1: Italy, Switzerland, Croatia, Northern Ireland
Pot 2: Sweden, Greece, Rep. of Ireland, Denmark

Ireland vs N. Ireland would be a fun matchup.
Revenge for the snow game  
B in ALB : 10/10/2017 6:40 pm : link
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Costa Rica was in the snow  
TommytheElephant : 10/10/2017 6:49 pm : link
They already had their revenge
Snow Game  
Jeffrey : 10/10/2017 6:50 pm : link
I was at the snow game in Denver if you are talking about the Costa Rica match. In all fairness the field conditions were a disgrace.
One of my favorite Outlaws chants  
TommytheElephant : 10/10/2017 6:57 pm : link
Counting from 5 to zero

There were 5 Costa Ricans in the snow
There were 5 Costa Ricans in the snow
There were 5 Costa Ricans
5 Costa ricans
5 Costa Ricans
5 Costa Ricans in the snow...

And Clint Fucking Dempsey sent them home
Yea Clint Fucking Dempsey sent them home
And Clint fucking Dempsey
Clint fucking Dempsey
Clint fucking Dempsey sent them home ...

There were 4 Costa Ricans in the snow....
RE: Revenge for the snow game  
B in ALB : 10/10/2017 7:03 pm : link
In comment 13641955 B in ALB said:
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Oh yeah. Haha.
That was fucking ridiculous.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 10/10/2017 8:18 pm : link
...
Anybody have a stream link?  
slickwilly : 10/10/2017 8:18 pm : link
I don't get Bein.
Try this:  
Giants_ROK : 10/10/2017 8:20 pm : link
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What a joke! - ( New Window )
Man..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/10/2017 8:22 pm : link
we look really sluggish.

At least Mexico is winning.
It’s iusr great to see Omar out there  
hitdog42 : 10/10/2017 8:26 pm : link
Over Cameron. Or anyone for that matter
Good Lord  
B in ALB : 10/10/2017 8:33 pm : link
Is this for real?

US looks completely fucking lost  
B in ALB : 10/10/2017 8:35 pm : link
Boom ball coming up.
Honduras..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/10/2017 8:36 pm : link
just tied Mexico
Sad Effort So Far  
Jeffrey : 10/10/2017 8:36 pm : link
Central defense again strikes,but even worse is the sloppy passing by Nagbe and other midfielders.
Wow..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/10/2017 8:37 pm : link
this is really bad
I don't know what to say about that  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 10/10/2017 8:37 pm : link
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RE: Sad Effort So Far  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 10/10/2017 8:38 pm : link
In comment 13642058 Jeffrey said:
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Central defense again strikes,but even worse is the sloppy passing by Nagbe and other midfielders.


Horrific atrocious embarrassing passing.
Might start..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/10/2017 8:38 pm : link
to look like a game Down Under!
Fucking pathetic  
Giants_ROK : 10/10/2017 8:38 pm : link
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Awesome.  
Mr. Bungle : 10/10/2017 8:39 pm : link
Terrific effort, guys!
Costa Rica..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/10/2017 8:39 pm : link
winning 1-0
Mexico..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/10/2017 8:40 pm : link
back up 2-1
this is absymal  
Nitro : 10/10/2017 8:40 pm : link
2-0 a country the size of Albany NY
ugh  
well...bye TC : 10/10/2017 8:40 pm : link
no BeIn on TWC...whats happening?
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