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BrettNYG10 : 10/10/2017 9:35 am
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BrettNYG10 : 10/10/2017 9:55 am : link
Brooks column this morning. Talks about Thornton as a potential deadline acquisition.


NY Post - ( New Window )
Chytil  
Jim in Scranton : 10/10/2017 10:37 am : link
sent to Hartford.
RE: Chytil  
Greg from LI : 10/10/2017 10:43 am : link
In comment 13641133 Jim in Scranton said:
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sent to Hartford.


Good to see Veeeeeeeenyo give him every available opportunity.

Why hasn't that fuck been fired yet again?
wow. 14 minute sample and banished.  
Victor in CT : 10/10/2017 10:48 am : link
They should have just sent him back to his Czech team before the season started. It would have been less damaging to his confidence.

No thanks on Thornton. He's 38 yrs old. Reeks of the kind of trade the Rnagers traditionally make in desperation trying to end the Curse.
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arcarsenal : 10/10/2017 10:57 am : link
Giving up assets for Thornton would reek of a Slats move. I don't expect Gorton to do that.
So does this mean  
Rover : 10/10/2017 11:00 am : link
He is staying in the US or going to Czech?
Larry is stuck in the past  
jv : 10/10/2017 11:00 am : link
no way that happens.

Interesting dpairs in practice

Staal - McDonagh
Skjei - Shattenkirk
Smith - D'Angelo
Kampfer - Holden

Can we just give away Holden already? Gorts has to take him away from AV. Maybe Roy can talk him up to another team?
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BrettNYG10 : 10/10/2017 11:01 am : link
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Staal - McDonagh


depending on his health  
pjcas18 : 10/10/2017 11:02 am : link
and the Rangers situation at the time I'd definitely consider Jumbo Joe at the deadline.

I wouldn't trade more than say a 4th round pick or a journeyman minor leaguer for him, but if SJS is out of it and he's only there for this year, he'd be perfect for the stretch. And will probably be dealt.

Of course he'd still need to be playing at a relatively high level.

He can still dish it with the best of them and of course I've said many times I don't care for the finesse big guys, but he's still decent on the dots, can play PP, PK, and even a regular shift if you need it.

Would be like those teams acquiring Recchi, Iginla, Jagr, etc.
McDonagh's  
jv : 10/10/2017 11:05 am : link
all around quality means AV straps an anchor on him yet again..
Send the kid down and pick up some  
redbeard : 10/10/2017 11:10 am : link
Career journeyman off waivers

Why not at least bring up Nieves or Lettieri to fill out the lineup rather than some middling borderline player
lol  
BrettNYG10 : 10/10/2017 11:31 am : link
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Holden and Kampfer back in, per AV. Smith, DeAngelo out
RE: lol  
jv : 10/10/2017 11:32 am : link
In comment 13641287 BrettNYG10 said:
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Holden and Kampfer back in, per AV. Smith, DeAngelo out


Fuck our coach.
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Victor in CT : 10/10/2017 11:39 am : link
In comment 13641191 arcarsenal said:
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Giving up assets for Thornton would reek of a Slats move. I don't expect Gorton to do that.


Slats, Smith, Espo, the Cat. We could go on.
RE: lol  
arcarsenal : 10/10/2017 11:42 am : link
In comment 13641287 BrettNYG10 said:
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Steve Zipay‏Verified account @stevezipay 12m12 minutes ago
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Holden and Kampfer back in, per AV. Smith, DeAngelo out


This guy has to go.

Absolutely ridiculous.
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BrettNYG10 : 10/10/2017 11:49 am : link
I can't imagine his leash is all that long with Gorton. Benching two of Gorton's acquisitions for trash has to piss him off.
RE: lol  
redbeard : 10/10/2017 11:52 am : link
In comment 13641287 BrettNYG10 said:
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Steve Zipay‏Verified account @stevezipay 12m12 minutes ago
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Holden and Kampfer back in, per AV. Smith, DeAngelo out


Holy shit.....
Enough of this clown  
Greg from LI : 10/10/2017 11:54 am : link
Holden and Kampfer of the very definition of replacement level vets. What possible benefit do they provide???

2014 was a long time ago. Card's been cancelled.
The defense was a mess Saturday night  
Kyle in NY : 10/10/2017 11:55 am : link
Smith and Deangelo in particular did struggle. But is it really a one game leash? That's ridiculous
regarding Chytil and what this means re: his ELC  
Greg from LI : 10/10/2017 11:56 am : link
From BSB:

"In clarification of the nine-game rule Chytil can play out the year in the AHL and still have his year slide on his entry level contract. This is, ultimately, a good way for him to get a top-line role and North American experience; presuming, of course, Hartfords coaching changes have righted the ship in terms of player development. This might be ideal, since Chytil will get a real role in North America, while also keeping his ELC at three years. "
We all know AV has such short leashes for dmen.  
BrettNYG10 : 10/10/2017 11:56 am : link
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RE: We all know AV has such short leashes for dmen.  
Greg from LI : 10/10/2017 11:57 am : link
In comment 13641347 BrettNYG10 said:
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Whose names aren't Staal or Girardi, that is
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Greg from LI : 10/10/2017 12:01 pm : link
In comment 13641328 BrettNYG10 said:
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I can't imagine his leash is all that long with Gorton. Benching two of Gorton's acquisitions for trash has to piss him off.


This is why I don't get Gordon - not only did Gorton acquire them, but one of the reasons they dealt Stepan was to clear salary cap space to re-sign Smith. Why does he put up with this shit by Vigneault?
Or Kampfer apparently  
Kyle in NY : 10/10/2017 12:01 pm : link
he loves that guy!
The urgency early in the season from AV  
Kyle in NY : 10/10/2017 12:15 pm : link
does strike me as a guy who knows he has to get off to a good start of he might get the ax. Problem is, is player evaluation ability is just terrible
RE: RE: We all know AV has such short leashes for dmen.  
ColHowPepper : 10/10/2017 1:27 pm : link
In comment 13641352 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 13641347 BrettNYG10 said:

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Whose names aren't Staal or Girardi, that is
A rare error from Greg, they are not dmen, they play the position of dmen, but they are not.

Agree with Kyle, Smith and DeAngelo were pretty bad during multiple stretches, but there does have to be a learning curve. Vigneault may be feeling the pressure, and the omens from Henrik are not going to help. (Could have the makings of a craptacular year for NY sports. I guess the Yanks are still in it, though)
Auston Matthews  
pjcas18 : 10/10/2017 2:29 pm : link
Corsi last night 87%.

Canadiens vs the Rangers 68% (obviously only in 5v5 play the PP minutes seemed skewed without looking it up).

Corsi is officially stupid as an indicator of anything useful.

Something that calculated quality is probably a more accurate analytic, since all that possession and poor quality chances probably tires you out when you get back to the defensive zone (IMO).

so is Ruff here to be AV's replacement  
YAJ2112 : 10/10/2017 2:31 pm : link
when he gets canned in 2 weeks?
LOL  
Giants in 07 : 10/10/2017 3:23 pm : link
I forgot how much I hate AV.

Now I remember.

God this is going to be a fun couple of months with my two favorite teams and their brain dead coaches.
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BrettNYG10 : 10/10/2017 3:26 pm : link
I don't think AV survives if the Rangers are out of playoff positioning in December - especially if he's benching two big Gorton acquisitions.
It feels like AV  
bigbluehoya : 10/10/2017 3:33 pm : link
Is trolling Gorton and defying him to do something about it
Maybe AV can be fired  
pjcas18 : 10/10/2017 3:42 pm : link
and MTL can fire Julien and have AV replace him completing the most bizarre cycle in sports coaching retreads.

In 2000 AV was head coach of MTL, after a slow start in December of that year he was fired and replaced by Therrien, who was fired in 2003 and replaced by Julien.

fast forward to 2012 Therrien hired for a 2nd stint by MTL then fired in 2017 and replaced by Julien, who will eventually be fired and replaced by AV.

I know you're all probably of me saying it, but they're all the same coach. and they speak French which is a prerequisite.

Ruff might be good in NY for Hank's remaining years he's a players coach, and definitely the anti-AV/Therrien/Julien, he coaches a wide open style, that helps young creative players (like Seguin) thrive and I bet guys like JT Miller and Kreider would completely blossom under Ruff (offensively) if it's not too late. Problem is it high reward, high risk and doesn't always compute to W's.

If they had Hank in his prime still I'd say he's a good match for the Rangers talent.

not so sure now.
Yeah something stinks with the way vigNooooo is doing business here  
Torrag : 10/10/2017 6:25 pm : link
It's one thing to have a blindspot/mancrush on a guy like Glass but how he's handling this roster so far smacks of snubbbing his nose at his boss. Not something you really want to do if you're seriously interested in keeping the job you have...

He's been making more and more head scratching decisions the longer he's been behind the Rangers bench. Frankly I'll hold the door open for him at this point if he's given the boot.

Booch with a great pass to Mika  
B in ALB : 10/10/2017 7:14 pm : link
Wow.
1-0 Blues  
Run with 81 : 10/10/2017 7:15 pm : link
15 secs in...

Zib ties it PPG
Lucky goal for the Blues  
NYerInMA : 10/10/2017 7:35 pm : link
just bounced in off the bar. Terrible clearing attempt by Kampfer just before.
It's not bad luck that Kampfer is dressed  
MetsAreBack : 10/10/2017 7:43 pm : link
It's inexcusable
Marc Staal  
bigbluehoya : 10/10/2017 7:49 pm : link
Is really fucking terrible.
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arcarsenal : 10/10/2017 7:51 pm : link
Al Trautwig... does this guy know anything about dental hygiene? He looks like he has wood teeth or something. They're almost green.

The man is fucking repulsive.
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B in ALB : 10/10/2017 7:58 pm : link
In comment 13642012 arcarsenal said:
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Al Trautwig... does this guy know anything about dental hygiene? He looks like he has wood teeth or something. They're almost green.

The man is fucking repulsive.


It's not that bad.

(Runs away)
Holden had the most TOI against Tarasenko  
Kyle in NY : 10/10/2017 8:05 pm : link
He and Kampfer getting Pk time

I'm not sure I can take another season of this...
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arcarsenal : 10/10/2017 8:13 pm : link
This coach is absolutely clueless when it comes to deploying his players in the correct situations. It's mind-boggling. How can someone who has been around the game this long have such an issue with shit like this?
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arcarsenal : 10/10/2017 8:47 pm : link
In more positive news... our Igor already has 4 SO's and it's only October 10th.

Fingers crossed that we've already got Hank's heir apparent in waiting there.
If you want a good laugh  
Kyle in NY : 10/10/2017 8:55 pm : link
Go check out the time on ice for the defense through 2
Kampfer to the box  
MetsAreBack : 10/10/2017 9:08 pm : link
I mean I literally have no clue how the fuck the guy made the team let alone gets to dress
VeeNooo must gooooo....  
Torrag : 10/10/2017 9:18 pm : link
...and the sooner the better at this point.
What was that  
bluesince56 : 10/10/2017 9:37 pm : link
You got to win the face off first. Then remove the goaltender
We can't get a single bounce in third periods so far  
Kyle in NY : 10/10/2017 9:37 pm : link
against teams doing nothing but defending
NY sports  
MetsAreBack : 10/10/2017 9:38 pm : link
I guess Yankees fans feel good though
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arcarsenal : 10/10/2017 9:41 pm : link
Good lord.

I don't know why I even watch anything at this point. Nothing but aggravation. Part of being a fan, I guess. Just so frustrating. Everywhere I turn, the team I watch is fucking garbage.
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