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Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/11/2017 5:23 pm
Some additional information on CB Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie and the Giants: According to a source close to the situation, the issues with Rodgers-Cromartie began last Friday, when the cornerback walked out of the team's "recovery day" session. During Sunday's loss to the Chargers, the source said, Rodgers-Cromartie slammed his helmet down on the sideline, left the team while the game was in progress and went to the locker room with what teammates and coaches understood was the intent to leave the stadium. The Friday and Sunday incidents led to a meeting Tuesday between Rodgers-Cromartie and head coach Ben McAdoo in which McAdoo told Rodgers-Cromartie that he would be inactive for this Sunday's game in Denver and fined for walking out of Friday's recovery session. Rodgers-Cromartie was to participate in practice this week as normal but would be one of the seven game-day inactives Sunday in Denver. The source went on to say that Rodgers-Cromartie showed up for meetings Wednesday but left the defensive team meeting while it was ongoing, cleaned out his locker and left the team facility. At that time, the team made the decision to suspend him. At this time, a source said, the Giants have no plans to release or trade Rodgers-Cromartie and instead plan to welcome him back with a clean slate once he has served his punishment.
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Yep, McAdoo's fault.  
section125 : 10/11/2017 5:24 pm : link
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Yeah he has no choice but to come back and play  
DennyInDenville : 10/11/2017 5:27 pm : link
Not sure why he cleaned his locker out

Macadoo sounds like he's lost some of his players.
If im DRC & they kept me in the slot to play Ross Cockrell outside..  
est1986 : 10/11/2017 5:27 pm : link
I would be pissed too. Terrible coaching and game planning.
The coach has his issues  
Canton : 10/11/2017 5:28 pm : link
But this is all on DRC
The cleaning out the locker part  
ThatLimerickGuy : 10/11/2017 5:29 pm : link
is bad.

That's just him saying "F this I don't even want to be a Giant anymore"

He will be cut by the end of the week.
Thanks to our "leader" DRC  
FranknWeezer : 10/11/2017 5:29 pm : link
This team needed to be dealing with this right now.
What the hell...  
2ndroundKO : 10/11/2017 5:29 pm : link
prompted DRC to leave during recovery of all days? Something is brewing under the surface.

Inmates are running the asylum. I don't want them to be given the satisfaction of getting a coach fired but I don't know if McAdoo can ever rein them in. Or if he's capable of relinquishing control of the offense and getting a real O-Coordinator.

Best bet may be to let the bad apples go but giving McAdoo an agreeable bunch doesn't mean he'll lead them in the right direction.
Does anyone know what's involved  
eclipz928 : 10/11/2017 5:31 pm : link
in the recovery day session? Would seem that either what happened that day or leading up to it was the catalyst for all of this.
If that s the story  
joeinpa : 10/11/2017 5:31 pm : link
It s on DRC

He quit on the team. Regardless of frustration, can t so that.
What DRC did is on DRC (not Mac)  
Beer Man : 10/11/2017 5:33 pm : link
But the incident is a clear sign of a coach that is losing (or has lost) the locker room.
Btw, DRC has been on some pretty bad teams  
eclipz928 : 10/11/2017 5:36 pm : link
in the past and there's been no previous talk of him having this sort of behavior or attitude. Can't be just the player, something is really wrong here.
bottom line  
sundayatone : 10/11/2017 5:37 pm : link
losing suxs for everybody
RE: Btw, DRC has been on some pretty bad teams  
DennyInDenville : 10/11/2017 5:38 pm : link
In comment 13643664 eclipz928 said:
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in the past and there's been no previous talk of him having this sort of behavior or attitude. Can't be just the player, something is really wrong here.

Good point, something is very very wrong.

Hopefully we find out quickly in today's days. Took years to find out all the details of 03
This was going to be his last year with the Giants anyway,  
SterlingArcher : 10/11/2017 5:38 pm : link
his skills have fallen off.
Retaining McAdoo for next season depends upon how he handles the team  
JohnB : 10/11/2017 5:38 pm : link
during this losing season. If he loses the team, he is gone.

This shows me that he is still in charge.
Sounds like there is a lot going on  
lawguy9801 : 10/11/2017 5:38 pm : link
that isn't being told here.

All the little signs...OBJ mentioning TB knowing the routes, Apple mentioning the "culture," now this....where there's smoke there's fire.

Yes, DRC should be a pro, but that's not the point. This does not happen on a team that's well-run.
RE: This was going to be his last year with the Giants anyway,  
robbieballs2003 : 10/11/2017 5:39 pm : link
In comment 13643670 SterlingArcher said:
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his skills have fallen off.


WTF are you talking about?
Which Giants coach  
David B. : 10/11/2017 5:41 pm : link
Would have dealt with that kind of player behavior differently? TC would have done the same or worse.
Would Sunday be the first time DRC  
eclipz928 : 10/11/2017 5:43 pm : link
would have been going up against his old team since becoming a Giant?
Can't fault DRC here  
NYGmen58 : 10/11/2017 5:44 pm : link
McAdoo is clueless and has lost the lockerroom.
Remember that  
Pete in MD : 10/11/2017 5:45 pm : link
there have been rumblings about DRC's poor attitude in the past. It became sort of a joke on BBI but now it appears as though there may have been something to it.
RE: Btw, DRC has been on some pretty bad teams  
Matt M. : 10/11/2017 5:46 pm : link
In comment 13643664 eclipz928 said:
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in the past and there's been no previous talk of him having this sort of behavior or attitude. Can't be just the player, something is really wrong here.
Weren't there issues with him in Philly?
RE: Btw, DRC has been on some pretty bad teams  
Milton : 10/11/2017 5:46 pm : link
In comment 13643664 eclipz928 said:
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in the past and there's been no previous talk of him having this sort of behavior or attitude. Can't be just the player, something is really wrong here.
DRC has been on good teams and bad teams, what they all had in common was a willingness to show him the door.
DRC should never have done this it's very unprofessional  
montanagiant : 10/11/2017 5:48 pm : link
But the elephant in the room is that this kind of shit is what you see when a team is coming apart at the seams.
I don't think McAdoo was wrong for suspending him  
Matt M. : 10/11/2017 5:49 pm : link
But, it does seem like this was mishandled prior to this suspension. There are clearly communication issues and he does seem to be losing players.
DRC is a pain in the ass.  
TC : 10/11/2017 5:53 pm : link
But that being said, I don't know what else is going on. If I'm being singled out for crappy play (True!) I may begin to feel like a scapegoat while watching the entire offense range somewhere between HOLY CRAP and meh.
What exactly is recovery day  
ThreePoints : 10/11/2017 5:53 pm : link
?
RE: Can't fault DRC here  
Devon : 10/11/2017 5:55 pm : link
In comment 13643685 NYGmen58 said:
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McAdoo is clueless and has lost the lockerroom.


Yes, you absolutely can.

McAdoo being incompetent in general doesn't prevent it in any way. DRC was largely the wrong party here and Benny seems to be doing what a HC should for once.
RE: What exactly is recovery day  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/11/2017 5:56 pm : link
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Series of physical activities designed to reduce injuries. It was implemented last year.
McAdoo has lost the team  
PatersonPlank : 10/11/2017 5:59 pm : link
Time to move on to a different coach. This team needs a reboot.
Suspending him after the chargers game  
eclipz928 : 10/11/2017 6:00 pm : link
Was probably a little too heavy handed. Emotions were high after that loss and all the injuries.

Poor decision and bad leadership for DRC to leave the game early, but the coach has to allow a little room for some frustration. A fine, and a benching for part of the game may have been enough to get the message across.
RE: RE: Btw, DRC has been on some pretty bad teams  
eclipz928 : 10/11/2017 6:04 pm : link
In comment 13643690 Matt M. said:
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in the past and there's been no previous talk of him having this sort of behavior or attitude. Can't be just the player, something is really wrong here.

Weren't there issues with him in Philly?

There were no issues in Philly, he just played poorly there. He was also on one of the worst defenses that Philly had in years, which eventually lead to the DC being fired.
RE: RE: This was going to be his last year with the Giants anyway,  
NYDCBlue : 10/11/2017 6:11 pm : link
In comment 13643673 robbieballs2003 said:
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his skills have fallen off.



WTF are you talking about?


Maybe he is talking about DRC's play in the slot. The guy is great outside, but last year he was slightly below average in the slot. He really struggled against teams like Dallas and Wash that have small shifty slot players. This year he pretty much sucks covering the slot. He is a liability out there at that position.
DRC  
littlejoe47 : 10/11/2017 6:16 pm : link
Maybe he shouldn't have done this, maybe it was needed. Seems to me something we expected. The Coach does not have the respect of the team. He probably doesn't react this way if the players are bought in. Many will complain about gen-x/millenials and their entitlement ,blah, blah, blah. Leaders throughout history needed followers who were bought in. When Coughlin felt like he was losing the team, he reached out to team leaders and we won a superbowl.
DRC played the slot  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 10/11/2017 6:20 pm : link
Because he’s the best suited to play the slot and has been for the past few years. Cockerel can’t play the slot. This why cockerel played there. I don’t get where people can’t see that. The slot cb is basically a starter and plays more now then the WILL LB in modern day defenses.
.....  
CoughlinHandsonHips : 10/11/2017 6:20 pm : link
Season is approaching laughing stock

Who knew the Gmen would be the most dysfunctional in the NFC East
Didn't he get hurt in the chargers game?  
ron mexico : 10/11/2017 6:20 pm : link
I thought I saw him pull up what looked like a hamstring injury
RE: RE: RE: This was going to be his last year with the Giants anyway,  
robbieballs2003 : 10/11/2017 6:20 pm : link
In comment 13643730 NYDCBlue said:
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his skills have fallen off.



WTF are you talking about?



Maybe he is talking about DRC's play in the slot. The guy is great outside, but last year he was slightly below average in the slot. He really struggled against teams like Dallas and Wash that have small shifty slot players. This year he pretty much sucks covering the slot. He is a liability out there at that position.


Interesting. Do we just say stuff and believe it is true or do we just flat out lie? DRC was one of the best CBs in the league last year amd was named second team all-pro which is way more significant than a pro-bowl nomination.
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Or maybe this  
robbieballs2003 : 10/11/2017 6:25 pm : link
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Landon Collins was PFF’s number one breakout player of 2016, as well as making the PFF All-Pro first team and contending for Defensive Player of the Year. Both Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie and Janoris Jenkins finished in the top 10 among cornerbacks in passer rating against in 2016 as DRC saw just a 56.0 passer rating when targeted, fourth best and Jenkins saw a 64.8, T-10th best. They combine to make up one of the best cornerback tandems in the league, while last year’s No. 10 overall draft pick Eli Apple has his best football ahead of him. In his debut season, Apple averaged 11.4 snaps in coverage per reception allowed, which was fifth best among all rookie cornerbacks last season.

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It is all part of being 0-5  
Steve in South Jersey : 10/11/2017 6:25 pm : link
would not surprise me if this spreads. The locker room is a bad place right now.
Mac has lost the team  
ZogZerg : 10/11/2017 6:25 pm : link
He needs to clean out his office.
This meltdown should shock no one  
Ben in Tampa : 10/11/2017 6:35 pm : link
This is a poorly run organization right now
RE: What DRC did is on DRC (not Mac)  
UberAlias : 10/11/2017 6:50 pm : link
In comment 13643656 Beer Man said:
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But the incident is a clear sign of a coach that is losing (or has lost) the locker room.
Exactly.
This is on DRC but....Mac is in trouble. Eli' Apples comments  
Blue21 : 10/11/2017 6:58 pm : link
were telling also. Somthing wrong here and it starts with the head coach in my opinion.
McAdoo  
AcidTest : 10/11/2017 6:58 pm : link
handled it correctly. That's all on DRC. Terrible by him.
any chance the "source close to the situation"  
HomerJones45 : 10/11/2017 7:09 pm : link
is with management or McAdoo himself?

Nah
.  
Danny Kanell : 10/11/2017 7:11 pm : link
I’m surprised the Giants are welcoming him back.
RE: Or maybe this  
eclipz928 : 10/11/2017 7:28 pm : link
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1. New York Giants

Landon Collins was PFF’s number one breakout player of 2016, as well as making the PFF All-Pro first team and contending for Defensive Player of the Year. Both Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie and Janoris Jenkins finished in the top 10 among cornerbacks in passer rating against in 2016 as DRC saw just a 56.0 passer rating when targeted, fourth best and Jenkins saw a 64.8, T-10th best. They combine to make up one of the best cornerback tandems in the league, while last year’s No. 10 overall draft pick Eli Apple has his best football ahead of him. In his debut season, Apple averaged 11.4 snaps in coverage per reception allowed, which was fifth best among all rookie cornerbacks last season.

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DRC's season was very underrated last season, mostly due to the fact that he didn't cause that many turnovers compared to Jenkins. People that keep talking about trading and cutting this guy don't understand just how good he has been on the Giants.
makes you wonder  
tony71 : 10/11/2017 7:28 pm : link
After how he talks about Eli, and all the noise coming from other players,DRC complaining something BM said was BS,, how does BM really treat his players when the the mics and cameras arnt there. Guy constantly dumps on his QB. refuses to let anyone else call plays, kids himself about the offensive line.. Dont know if he is a control freak, too cocky for his own good, or just gets his undies twisted when shit goes wrong.. Something definitely is happening and i think he is a big part of it. Even Coughlin was a Dick until he listened to the players and chilled out some.. Does Mac need to do this too?
Good leadership involves resolving conflict before it escalates  
Vanzetti : 10/11/2017 7:28 pm : link
. Not absolving DRC but this sounds like it could have been nipped in the bud
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