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A lot of us want to see MacAdoo gone...

Gmen8691 : 10/27/2017 5:08 pm
But who's on your wish list?
he's not going anywhere  
micky : 10/27/2017 5:14 pm : link
so a list is pointless
McAdoo should be given the chance to hire his own staff  
SHO'NUFF : 10/27/2017 5:26 pm : link
and not get stuck with the likes of Spags, Sullivan, KG Jr and Quinn. All owner favorites.
re : McAdoo should be given the chance to hire his own staff  
malslayer : 10/27/2017 5:33 pm : link
Because Spags, Sullivan, KG Jr and Quinn are all the reason why we are 1-6. The offense super genius who is smarter than everyone in football just needs a whole new staff and then we would be good.

smh... Oh let's bring in Chip Kelly as HC. ugh.
Reese and Ross have to go  
Paulie Walnuts : 10/27/2017 5:42 pm : link
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RE: McAdoo should be given the chance to hire his own staff  
spike : 10/27/2017 5:46 pm : link
In comment 13667635 SHO'NUFF said:
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and not get stuck with the likes of Spags, Sullivan, KG Jr and Quinn. All owner favorites.
RE: McAdoo should be given the chance to hire his own staff  
Ron from Ninerland : 10/27/2017 5:51 pm : link
In comment 13667635 SHO'NUFF said:
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and not get stuck with the likes of Spags, Sullivan, KG Jr and Quinn. All owner favorites.
So is that why the Giants are losing ? It has nothing to do with McAdoo and his play calling ? Its all because he's got lousy assistants. is that it ?
Ron he's using  
idiotsavant : 10/27/2017 6:11 pm : link
Sarcasm dude
Or  
idiotsavant : 10/27/2017 6:13 pm : link
Angry Hipster Irony

One or the other
If McAdoo wanted to pick a whole new staff  
widmerseyebrow : 10/27/2017 6:15 pm : link
He should have taken another job. It's not like he didn't have plenty of time to interview with other teams while the Giants took their sweet time. But he didn't get any other offers. This was the best he could do.
A lot of people...  
Gary from The East End : Admin : 10/27/2017 6:20 pm : link
...are stupid

Just sayin'
I don't want Spag defense scheme to go  
rasbutant : 10/27/2017 6:22 pm : link
He defense is a whole lot more fun to watch then a Lewis style system. He's not prefect but i can deal with that, at least he's trying with a scheme that i agree with.


Ben, don't know what to think of him. People say he's smart, he tries to be Coughlin like in his interviews with the press, i hate his hair, but noon of that has to do with football.

I don't like that it took injuries to see that Fluker should be playing and that the RB should have been 3rd string, and that he shouldn't be calling the plays.
RE: McAdoo should be given the chance to hire his own staff  
japanhead : 10/27/2017 6:45 pm : link
In comment 13667635 SHO'NUFF said:
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and not get stuck with the likes of Spags, Sullivan, KG Jr and Quinn. All owner favorites.


as much as i think mcadoo has been vomit-worthy this season, i agree with this sentiment. it is ridiculous and aggravating that ownership is emboldened to force coordinators and position coaches on the head coach like this.

i guess in some instances in the past, a version of this worked (i.e., forcing coughlin to jettison hufnagel and lewis, and later sheridan) so maybe that made mara think he's smarter than he actually is. who knows.
Reese screwed the pooch for years....  
Fishmanjim57 : 10/27/2017 6:57 pm : link
with his lack of acquiring any decent help on defence when T.C. was here, and don't get me started about his stupidity concerning the O.L.
Reese let T.C. take the brunt of his stupidity, then promoted Slickback Mac to take the place of my favourite former coach.
Yes, I want McAdoo gone, but I want Reese gone first!
I think it's a fair question...  
Dan in the Springs : 10/27/2017 7:16 pm : link
I want to see someone who understands how to prep a team in the current CBA.

Offensively, I'm jealous of KC, and how they start off well and score plenty without one of the league's best QB's. I'd like to see what Brad Childress could do if given another shot. He's not super-young, but at 62 next year still has the time to build a functioning team. As assistant head coach currently he should probably be on top of several teams' lists of potential candidates.

If you want to try someone younger on the offensive side, I'd look at Matt Nagy, co-offensive coordinator at KC. He's an up-and-comer who knows the offensive system that's working so well in KC.

To rebuild the defense, I hate to admit it but I'm super jealous of how good the Dallas defense performs given the talent they have. Every year we think their defense should be one of the worst on paper, yet they seem to play well and are again a top ten unit. Marinelli may be the key, but I'm intrigued by defensive assistant Turner West and would like to see us interview him as a possible coordinator. Other top defenses seem to have a lot of talent, and it's tough to know whether it's the talent or the system that keeps teams like Denver and Seattle perpetually at the top of the defensive rankings.

If we wanted a defensive coach I'm one who would give serious consideration to Matt Patricia of NE. I know their defense sucks this year, but he's super-bright and has accomplished so much coming up under the GOAT HC.

Love to hear other ideas as well.
RE: RE: McAdoo should be given the chance to hire his own staff  
cjd2404 : 10/27/2017 7:21 pm : link
In comment 13667657 Ron from Ninerland said:
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In comment 13667635 SHO'NUFF said:


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and not get stuck with the likes of Spags, Sullivan, KG Jr and Quinn. All owner favorites.

So is that why the Giants are losing ? It has nothing to do with McAdoo and his play calling ? Its all because he's got lousy assistants. is that it ?


Not for nothing, but when you O/C says he knows nothing about the Offense that McAdoo runs..and offense OBTW that Eli thrived under for 2 years, then yes I place blame on an O/C who can't be trusted because he doesn't know the offense. So now you have a Head Coach who pretty much needs to call the plays and run the team. If he gets to pick his own staff, maybe that doesn't happen.

That being said, the offense doesn't work anymore and something needs to change there
Wackado sucks...  
EricJ : 10/27/2017 8:05 pm : link
it does not matter who is assistants are. I do not like what I see from him on the sideline. He did not realize that his play calling was the problem and that role had to be taken from him.
I will second that .. Like to be a mouse in the room when grease balls  
Bluesbreaker : 10/27/2017 8:08 pm : link
Reese screwed the pooch for years....
Fishmanjim57 : 6:57 pm : link : reply
with his lack of acquiring any decent help on defence when T.C. was here, and don't get me started about his stupidity concerning the O.L.
Reese let T.C. take the brunt of his stupidity, then promoted Slickback Mac to take the place of my favourite former coach.
Yes, I want McAdoo gone, but I want Reese gone first!
Reiterating...Reese and Ross have got to go.  
NYRiese : 10/27/2017 9:20 pm : link
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Gone...  
silverfox : 10/28/2017 6:07 am : link
....and forgotten.
not going  
bc4life : 10/28/2017 6:48 am : link
shouldn't go
Why ive a Pass to Our Pro-Bowl DE's  
NJLCO : 10/28/2017 7:10 am : link
Our DE's who are making mega-dollars--often hurt and provide limited at best production. 1-6 team and JPP has performed in 1 game so far at a level of what was expected. The other guy hurt last year and hurt again this year. The D has taken a turn backwards this year in my mind because these 2 are no where near playing up to their salaries. Paper Lions.
I want him gone.  
FStubbs : 10/28/2017 7:42 am : link
I mean, what reason is there for him to stay? What qualifications does he have exactly?

And enough offensive guys. I want a defensive minded coach in here for a change. Get back to Giants football.
I don't get this Eli thrived for two years under Mac....  
Doomster : 10/28/2017 10:55 am : link
Maybe statistically.....but this offense only moved because we had OBj.....take him out of the equation, and would Eli have thrived for two years?

This offense is stale, unimaginative, and predictable.....and when we are trailing, we still dink and dunk in the fourth quarter because that's all we have for an offense.....

I understand the so-called reasoning for hiring Mac, supposedly for smooth transition of the offense with Eli......but if that was the main reason, it hasn't worked.....it just seems that MAC wants to run an offense without the right personnel to run it, instead of taking the strengths of his individual players, and capitalizing on it....
If Reese goes, then we'll see who the new GM selects.  
Jim in Forest Hills : 10/28/2017 10:59 am : link
Personally I'd love to see someone with Urban Meyer's focus and drive in the role.
If you have any hope for MacAdoo  
HomerJones45 : 10/28/2017 11:33 am : link
then Reese needs to go. You cannot string out a coach with Jerry's reaches, tweeners, poor judgment and hybrids. It's over for him.
RE: A lot of people...  
Matt M. : 10/28/2017 1:57 pm : link
In comment 13667688 Gary from The East End said:
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...are stupid

Just sayin'
You don't want him and the whole staff gone?
RE: RE: McAdoo should be given the chance to hire his own staff  
LauderdaleMatty : 10/28/2017 8:38 pm : link
In comment 13667709 japanhead said:
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In comment 13667635 SHO'NUFF said:


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and not get stuck with the likes of Spags, Sullivan, KG Jr and Quinn. All owner favorites.



as much as i think mcadoo has been vomit-worthy this season, i agree with this sentiment. it is ridiculous and aggravating that ownership is emboldened to force coordinators and position coaches on the head coach like this.

i guess in some instances in the past, a version of this worked (i.e., forcing coughlin to jettison hufnagel and lewis, and later sheridan) so maybe that made mara think he's smarter than he actually is. who knows.


They did it to TC. McAdoo was given the job by Mara. Hard to complain now since that’s the way he got the job. I’ve posted
This before. His offense isn’t shit without OBJ. He most likely has almost no input on D. Yeah he should interview guys who he should be working for. No thanks. He needs to go. Never should have been given the job.
Good coaches don't have seasons like this  
JD in NC : 10/28/2017 10:29 pm : link
Bad records can happen to anyone. The performances this team has put on tape this year are borderline comical.
We should give ST Coordinator Tom Quinn  
Jimmy Googs : 10/29/2017 8:28 am : link
a try?
If you don't like the meat....  
Tark10 : 10/29/2017 8:50 am : link
Don't fire the cook...Fire the guy who bought the meat.
The Maras  
fkap : 10/29/2017 8:54 am : link
need to take a backseat in the football side of the front office. Not going to happen.

McAdoo needs to go, but the insane rash of injuries may have saved his job. He was doing a good job of losing it before the injuries, and the season was already likely lost, but you can't expect him to turn the season around with this set of WR. unless he completely loses the team, or unless the Maras scapegoat Reese for their own shortcomings, he probably returns.
Most of the games lost  
bc4life : 10/29/2017 9:00 am : link
have been close (e.g., Philly one of best teams in the league wins with 61 yard FG).

Playoffs last year

Tons of injuries - critical injuries

Yeah, we have really been unlucky. That's why  
Jimmy Googs : 10/29/2017 9:41 am : link
we lost...








(lord...help me)
If you want OBJ and Engram to be all that they can be  
Bob in Newburgh : 10/29/2017 9:51 am : link
You want a dullard like McAdoo gone.

We need competence at a minimum, but I would love to see the aforementioned playing under brilliance.
Jury is still out...  
Rong5611 : 10/29/2017 9:56 am : link
Reese needs to go. BM, not sure it is all his fault, I think.
I hope everyone...  
Chris in Philly : 10/29/2017 10:02 am : link
is prepared for John Fox...
RE: I hope everyone...  
EricJ : 10/29/2017 10:23 am : link
In comment 13668520 Chris in Philly said:
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is prepared for John Fox...


yeah that's possible when you are dealing with John Mara. At this point anything is an improvement over wackadoo.

The thing that bothers me is people get distracted by a good run last year by the defense catapulting the team into the playoffs. Let's step back and look at this team over the past few years.

1. We had an all time worst defense on the field before we were embarrassed into spending $200 million to fix it.
2. We have had one of the worse running games in the league for the past few years
3. We have had the worst offensive line in the league for the past few years.It not the worst, bottom three...
4. We have had opposing players say publicly that they knew what plays we were going to run. We have all known this for a while but it was finally confirmed.
5. Our special teams have been near the bottom of the league for a while

This is a combination of player selection and coaching. What exactly are we risking by cleaning house? This team is NOT close.
Jason Garrett  
Sean : 10/29/2017 3:02 pm : link
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Jim in Forest Hills  
arniefez : 10/29/2017 3:10 pm : link
I’m not sure what football team you follow closely but it’s not the Giants if you think the Mara’s are going to hire a new GM and give him actual authority over picking the players and the coaching staff. Hasn’t been that way since 2011 and won’t be that way anytime soon.
Yeah lets get Garrett  
Jimmy Googs : 10/29/2017 6:13 pm : link
I wanted him 3 years ago...
RE: I hope everyone...  
djm : 10/29/2017 6:42 pm : link
In comment 13668520 Chris in Philly said:
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is prepared for John Fox...


Oh god no.
RE: Yeah lets get Garrett  
djm : 10/29/2017 6:45 pm : link
In comment 13668845 Jimmy Googs said:
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I wanted him 3 years ago...


Garrett likely isn't getting fired in Dallas. And why would he?
I don't want him fired.  
AnishPatel : 10/29/2017 6:50 pm : link
However, if Reese if fired then we need to clean house form to to bottom, and allow the new GM to pick to HC and QB.
RE: RE: Yeah lets get Garrett  
Sean : 10/29/2017 6:52 pm : link
In comment 13668864 djm said:
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I wanted him 3 years ago...




Garrett likely isn't getting fired in Dallas. And why would he?


Probably not, but who knows. If he’s available I think he makes a ton of sense.
I know Cowboy fans that would love to see Garrett gone  
Peppers : 10/29/2017 7:02 pm : link
Josh McDaniels would be the top of my list.
...  
christian : 10/29/2017 7:07 pm : link
Giants are 2 years into a 4 year plan. They've made salary and cap committment to this core group.

Reese probably loses his job, and his replacement is likely already on the staff in Kevin Abrams.

But there isn't a house cleaning coming. Unless you cut Manning.
RE: ...  
Sean : 10/29/2017 7:36 pm : link
In comment 13668884 christian said:
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Giants are 2 years into a 4 year plan. They've made salary and cap committment to this core group.

Reese probably loses his job, and his replacement is likely already on the staff in Kevin Abrams.

But there isn't a house cleaning coming. Unless you cut Manning.


4 year plan? More like let’s try to squeak out one more SB with Eli.
Anyone follow the Bills?  
santacruzom : 10/30/2017 2:33 am : link
How on Earth have they transformed so dramatically from a team people thought were tanking into one of the best AFC teams?

I read in another forum that they simply play more mistake-free, efficient, effort-filled football. If that's the case, you'd have to think that's primarily due to a coaching change, no?
RE: Anyone follow the Bills?  
Sean : 10/30/2017 7:57 am : link
In comment 13669184 santacruzom said:
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How on Earth have they transformed so dramatically from a team people thought were tanking into one of the best AFC teams?

I read in another forum that they simply play more mistake-free, efficient, effort-filled football. If that's the case, you'd have to think that's primarily due to a coaching change, no?


Yep. It’s impossible to predict with these coaches, but McDermott looks good.
RE: RE: Yeah lets get Garrett  
Jimmy Googs : 10/30/2017 8:14 am : link
In comment 13668864 djm said:
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In comment 13668845 Jimmy Googs said:


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I wanted him 3 years ago...



Garrett likely isn't getting fired in Dallas. And why would he?


Make him an offer he can't refuse...

Sincerely

Vito Corleone
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