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NFT: Rangers @ Tampa Bay, 7:30pm ET

NYerInMA : 11/2/2017 5:52 pm
October was a turdburger, let's hope November will be better. That being said, TB is the #1 team in the East currently, and beating them in Tampa is a tall order. Rumor is that Brendan Smith will be benched, meaning that at least one of the useless Kampfer/Holden combo will be playing. Prepare for pain!
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arcarsenal : 11/28/2017 9:44 pm : link
That was a TERRIBLE giveaway by Holden. What the fuck is he doing?
Holden you fucking clown  
redbeard : 11/28/2017 9:45 pm : link
Jesus
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arcarsenal : 11/28/2017 9:45 pm : link
And as an added bonus, he screens his own goalie!

Glad he's still getting ice time in crunch time. Clearly a good guy to have out there.
Holden is unbelievable  
Kyle in NY : 11/28/2017 9:45 pm : link
The turnover and the screen, Greta play moron!
The life of a rangers fan  
MetsAreBack : 11/28/2017 9:46 pm : link
Holy fucking shit
How is Holden always out there in crunch time?  
redbeard : 11/28/2017 9:47 pm : link
It’s unbelievable
Giving up 5 goals to the crappy Panthers  
NYerInMA : 11/28/2017 9:47 pm : link
Not acceptable!
Holden was fucking terrible tonight  
bigbluehoya : 11/28/2017 9:47 pm : link
That’s a pisser of a regulation loss after clawing back
Deserved more from that  
Kyle in NY : 11/28/2017 9:48 pm : link
Forwards busted their ass without Zib, and then Holden does that. Absolutely furious
Solid play by Smith there,  
section125 : 11/28/2017 9:49 pm : link
Misses the pass in offensive zone and dogs it down the ice..
Who the fuck was he passing it too  
MetsAreBack : 11/28/2017 9:49 pm : link
Why do he and Staal treat the puck like a grenade late and clutch?

That is one or the more deflating games I have ever attended
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arcarsenal : 11/28/2017 9:51 pm : link
This is one of those losses where you look around the room for like 10 minutes after and say "wait... what happened now?"

What a shitty fucking loss.

Feels like that Eagles game from Week 3. Get off to really bad start, come roaring back with a vengeance; and then all the air fucking comes right out of the balloon at the gun and we lose.

One of those games you just feel convinced they're not losing.. and then they lose. Guh.
Just rewatched to be sure  
NYerInMA : 11/28/2017 9:52 pm : link
but every single one of Florida's goals was garbage. Either a bad play by the defense or the goaltender. I think it's time to retire this thread.
And I attended the game 1 loss against the caps  
MetsAreBack : 11/28/2017 9:52 pm : link
When ward scored with 2 ticks left. You get to overtime even if they score 5 seconds in you feel good about the comeback.

Why is this team so fucking aggressive late and tied?? I like this style the first 50 minutes but the last 5-10 is torture because this culture refuses to play defense first late in tie games
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arcarsenal : 11/28/2017 9:53 pm : link
I really have absolutely no idea what Nick Holden was doing there. You literally cannot possibly have a worse shift than that.

Mind boggling.
Will there be any accountability for Holden?  
Kyle in NY : 11/28/2017 9:55 pm : link
Probably not. He has time and space, could skate it back behind the net and kill time, or fire it off the boards out of the zone in the air. Instead he tosses it weakly. WTF!?

That is absolutely inexcusable after all the team did to come back
Mac can't comeback soon enough  
MetsAreBack : 11/28/2017 9:56 pm : link
Hopefully Friday. He tried to play hurt for a while - hopefully the 12 day break has him better because I'm so sick of Holden Staal kampfen logging these minutes
And I guess neither were egregious goals  
MetsAreBack : 11/28/2017 10:00 pm : link
But I'm really pissed off - what's Pavelecs save percentage now? Haven't seen that guy make one save all year.
/end rant
Smith with a needless turnover at center  
Kyle in NY : 11/28/2017 10:07 pm : link
to start it all as well. Just dump it in and play for the point. Then he blocks a shot that the goalie would have easily and takes himself out of the play.

Valiquette with good points in the postgame. The way these guys defend is completely idiotic. Going to block every single shot unnecessarily, screening your own goalie, going to the ice and taking yourself out of the play. It's unnecessary. Stay on your feet, move your feet, use your stick, play the body. It doesn't always have to be such a damn fire drill out there
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arcarsenal : 11/28/2017 10:19 pm : link
Pavelec is just a crappy goalie. I hated that signing. I think they got a bit too comfortable with the goalie carousel behind Hank thinking they could make it work with just about anyone after Talbot and Raanta did so well here.

I'd love to see Valiquette get a shot at coaching one day - he's extremely bright and his analysis is usually dead on. Doesn't mean he'd necessarily be a great coach, I'm not even sure if he'd want to be one, but I'd love to see him get a chance.
Thought it was the best Pavelec has looked  
Kyle in NY : 11/28/2017 10:29 pm : link
Not saying much, but those goals aren't on him.
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arcarsenal : 11/28/2017 10:33 pm : link
Nah, you're right - the last one especially wasn't. He kept us in it after Hank laid an egg and hit the showers. I just don't think much of him in general and didn't like signing him, but I certainly don't blame him for this shitty loss. Not his fault.
Another pain point  
MetsAreBack : 11/28/2017 10:35 pm : link
They were playing their third game in 4 days. They were happy to take the point once we tied it. Their entire 3rd period plan in fact was to dump and chase and sit back.

How do these defenders not know the situation? Why is the puck treated like a fucking grenade? I swear this team is so fucked up mentally in late and close games. It was a problem all of last year, it ended out season in the postseason and it's at least three this year now (Pitt Florida and Florida) -- with a fourth against the islanders too if not for two spectular hank saves with a few ticks left.
Not saying much at all  
MetsAreBack : 11/28/2017 10:36 pm : link
He faced two high quality shots in two periods tonight and let both in

Agree it wasn't on him - but I guess we are spoiled in the past our backup goalies actually bailed out teammates once in a while
He faced more than two quality chances  
Kyle in NY : 11/28/2017 10:40 pm : link
We're all annoyed but be fair
Bottom line  
Kyle in NY : 11/28/2017 10:44 pm : link
We need Mac badly on Friday. We've got three defensemen playing that I have no faith in during late game situations. Wasn't all that surprising to see what happened after watching this team the last few years.
Zibanejad has been diagnosed with a concussion.  
Mad Mike : 11/30/2017 12:20 pm : link
Obviously that could turn into a major problem.
lonk - ( New Window )
Z and Mac are the two guys on this years roster  
MetsAreBack : 11/30/2017 3:32 pm : link
just by virtue of its construction... that we couldnt afford to lose. Lundqvist too i guess considering Pavelec's 89% save percentage this year (if you believe that will hold)

Sure enough - this is the Rangers.

Only bright spot is we only play 3 games here in 12 days... so maybe he'll just miss another game or two. Division games of course though.
minor trade  
Greg from LI : 11/30/2017 3:50 pm : link
Adam Cracknell to the Habs for Peter Holland to add a depth center. Both players currently in the A, but if Zibanejad is out for any length of time we could see Holland. Former Ducks first round pick.
ex-NYR  
pjcas18 : 11/30/2017 4:01 pm : link
(briefly, but was on the team for their playoff run to the SCF I believe) Derek Dorsett forced to retire with a chronic neck/spinal injury.

I liked him for what he did, solid grit guy.

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