How important is Eli's consecutive game streak to you?

None

if we are losing?

To play him just to play him is really stupid management. I hope the Giants front office and coaches realize this even if a bunch of fans would get their panties in a wad.

Team goals are nothing now that there is little to accomplish. Individual stats are all that is left. The only thing that is significant is Eli's streak.

Important. If it was next year...then who cares. He is not catching Favre.

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It doesn't mean a damn to me. That said, I don't think the Giants should bench Eli @ all.

to see it continue for at least another 50 games or so.

I would like to see him pass Peyton for #2 on list. He will accomplish that in two more games. I don't see him catching Favre. #2 is a great accomplishment. We will definitely miss his toughness and consistency.

I think the Giants will give him that much.

All things do come to an end though. I'd like Webb to see mop up duty first anyway.

And watching a lot of losing football from 1964 to 1980, the era of 81 to 90 was unbelievably special.

Going through a period where you couldnot even conceive of the Giants being an elite team to finally see them become the best team in football was something I' ll never stop appreciating.

The guys on those teams will always be special to me. I wanted Phill Simms to play forever and was upset when he was released. It would have been awful to see him wear another uniform.

I was younger, and the success was new.

I don t feel the same about Eli. He has been a great Giant but I don t care about any streak. However, I understand why some would.

...NOTHING.

Is championships. No brainer decision to end a consecutive start streak in my order to get a better look at current talent on roster to base future decisions on.

In comment 13681542 wgenesis123 said:

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The record itself is meaningless. No one cared about it prior to Favre and even then 'care' isn't the right verb. Acknowledged is more appropriate. If he passes Peyton, good for the fans I guess, but I'd rather see if Webb has potential as the next franchise qb or not if the season is lost.

after that we may as well see what Webb has. Its really a great streak and a testament to his durability.

There are some people here who seem to be much more fans of Eli Manning (and Tom Coughlin) than the New York Giants.

There's no practical reason to bench Manning. It would be a wimpy bitch move and bad for the morale and reputation of the team.

Most of the guys on this roster will be back even when the dope coaching them is gone.

It will be viewed as a slight to the captain and face of the franchise.

Give Webb a game jersey and get him reps in the inevitable blow outs to come.

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It is really a bizarre notion to think Webb just isn't ready for an NFL start?

Wasn't his college offense primarily out of the shotgun?

This guy has been the biggest Eli supporter on ESPN.....but he feels, that Eli doesn't care because of his supporting cast around him....
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It's not bizarre and he likely isn't ready to be a full time starter, but you need to see what he has. It's rare you can get an extended look at a player like this when you have a set starter. As far as taking every snap from shotgun. That is true, but so did Deshaun Watson, Mitch Trubisky, Jared Goff, and Marcus Mariota just to name a few recent draft picks. At least 3 of the 4 have acclimated quickly to the NFL (though the jury is still out on all them). It's a legit reason for concern, but many of the top qbs in today's college game come from similar systems.

If Odell had a consecutive starts streak and was washed up, people on this board would be throwing hissy fits to not start him.

I'd rather not see him go through all of this, but he's well paid and nearing the end of his career. Few players go out on top, especially the greats.

On this matter, though, I'd be very disappointed in the Giants if they didn't at least give him the 2-3 more starts he needs to surpass Peyton. He's got zero chance of passing Favre, so once he's past Peyton I'd say the streak business has been put to rest.

In comment 13681565 Greg from LI said:

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There are some people here who seem to be much more fans of Eli Manning (and Tom Coughlin) than the New York Giants.

In answer to your provocative question Greg aka Mr Sunshine I am more of a fan of Eli Manning at this point...

This franchise has let down one of the greatest players in their history and a clown coach should not be the one to end the streak...

because it's important to Eli. It's an incredible accomplishment in the NFL.

And, the flip side is, you're not going to learn much from Webb this year anyway. He's most likely not ready to play at the level needed for game day in the NFL.

Would I think about dressing him and putting him in games to get his feet wet in the second half if things get out of hand....certainly.

in the mean time, they can give Webb some reps late in games, and that won't affect the streak at all.

In comment 13681571 christian said:

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There's no practical reason to bench Manning. It would be a wimpy bitch move and bad for the morale and reputation of the team. Most of the guys on this roster will be back even when the dope coaching them is gone. It will be viewed as a slight to the captain and face of the franchise. Give Webb a game jersey and get him reps in the inevitable blow outs to come.

Well written.

Do you take it to mean he starts every game as long as he can, as long as he's a Giant - or do you consider it enough to let him pass Peyton.

Practically speaking - knowing he's never going to pass Favre, is it enough for you for him to pass Peyton and then give some snaps over to Webb, or do you want him to continue making consecutive starts to build up that record?

Not talking football here - I'm assuming there will be no improvement (and likely only a downgrade) going to Webb, we're talking strictly from the streak standpoint.

But there's not another guy on the roster who gives the team a better chance to win (however small) right now. Geno Smith is not going to win games, and putting Webb in there right now is a good way to completely ruin the rookie.

If there was a better option out there, then I'd be all for the Giants sitting Eli if needed. But there isn't, so the coach starting a quarterback controversy with his lack of communication skills is irritating.

it's the way Eli's exit will be handled means something. If it was Coughlin here sitting him down, I would be OK with it. The reason being is that you knew the decision was made collaboratively, and without haste.

I'm afraid the current regime would make a change with the attempt at make one last job saving move. I'm already fed up with this regime, and can deal with embarrassing losses from here on out. The cherry on top to this garbage season would be embarrassing my favorite Giant with a forced exit.

In comment 13681654 jcn56 said:

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Do you take it to mean he starts every game as long as he can, as long as he's a Giant - or do you consider it enough to let him pass Peyton. Practically speaking - knowing he's never going to pass Favre, is it enough for you for him to pass Peyton and then give some snaps over to Webb, or do you want him to continue making consecutive starts to build up that record? Not talking football here - I'm assuming there will be no improvement (and likely only a downgrade) going to Webb, we're talking strictly from the streak standpoint.

Jcn - that's a very good question.......I think Eli should be the starter for the rest of the season. He gives us the best chance to win - it's not close esp with the talent surrounding the QB. The team should be trying to compete.

You go into the offseason with all the cards on the table.....Giants could very well take a QB with their high first round pick, and that basically has the handwriting on the wall. There will be a transition and it could come quickly.

If they, for whatever reason, didn't take a QB, then you still go into the season that Manning has to produce and play well, because Webb will have had an entire offseason to prepare to play.

It sucks that things have gotten so bad that we're even discussing this - but Eli taking a back seat to Webb towards the end of the season isn't because anyone believes Webb gives us a better chance to win, it's simply to get some sort of feel for how likely he is to be the successor.

People will stop there and get incensed, figuring that the Giants should pick a QB with a top pick regardless of how Webb plays.

Here's where those who feel Manning has gas left in tank should take a breather. If the Giants feel the QBs at the top of the draft are overrated, and that the difference between them and Webb isn't enough to justify taking a top pick - then it frees up the Giants to make a selection other than QB at the top, and help retool the team for a run with whatever Eli has left, with the fallback option being Webb.

Not playing Webb at all essentially forces the Giants hand, to either make that call based on limited practice reps alone or to just make the QB pick regardless.

I do think Christian's suggestion - to just put Webb in for mop-up time makes a lot of sense, since I expect there to be plenty of mop up time. Or even to start Eli for a half, and then go to Webb in the second half in a preseason type model. I believe this would keep the streak intact.

and then it ends

but ending it under the current circumstances would be a slap in the face. Davis Webb was drafted as a project, and Geno Smith is Geno Smith. Wanna give Webb some reps here and there? Fine. But there's no reason - other than McAdoo being a spiteful prick - that Eli shouldn't start the games if healthy.

and you just want to get a feel for him........

Then play him in games depending on how it goes.

If we are competitive and have a chance to win, stick with Eli.

If we are getting blown out.......insert Webb.

First order of business, though, is asking is Webb actually going to dress for games.

Because if Geno is the alternative over Eli, I'll puke.

but at this point, I honestly believe the Giants are in tank mode.

It's hard to say, because of the conservative way that they operate - in any other season, we wouldn't expect McAdoo to be fired mid season.

But IMO - given some of the shitstorm circling around the Giants - it seems to me that once the season went out of reach, the Giants decided to go full tank. Don't relieve McAdoo, IR Richburg, suggest playing Webb - all moves that point towards winning being deprioritized.

Remember Suck for Luck, well...

If it was apparent he was single handedly blowing the season. Being that the season is lost, I’d really like to see him pass Peyton.

In comment 13681700 jcn56 said:

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but at this point, I honestly believe the Giants are in tank mode. It's hard to say, because of the conservative way that they operate - in any other season, we wouldn't expect McAdoo to be fired mid season. But IMO - given some of the shitstorm circling around the Giants - it seems to me that once the season went out of reach, the Giants decided to go full tank. Don't relieve McAdoo, IR Richburg, suggest playing Webb - all moves that point towards winning being deprioritized. Remember Suck for Luck, well...

I think a good majority of the players are.....which would be another reason not to insert Webb.

Unless you want to make a case it gives the team an injection of motivation to support the rook.

But I'd doubt that from this group.

but at this point, let him pass Peyton, and then move on, if that is what they plan on doing.

In comment 13681551 wgenesis123 said:

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I think the Giants will give him that much.

In a pitiful season it's all that's left.
And since about 70% of his career they've given him fair> jags OLs to play behind they owe him the record .

Second, who gives us a better chance to win? Geno, are you kidding me? I would however put Webb in for the 4th quarter of a bunch of games, especially in the blowouts. Geno I would put on the PS.

No way Geno Smith should see any playing time, so Eli not starting would only be to see how Webb does. No real need to start Webb IMHO.

Also, I'd hope they would publicly announce that in future games, if a game is out of hand by the start of the 4th quarter, Webb will be inserted to give him regular season game experience in order to evaluate his capabilities for the future. Be 100% honest about it. You're not "benching Eli".

There's absolutely no justification for Geno Smith this year. None.

All of my above comments are nullified if the streak is ended to insert Smith into the lineup. He does nothing for you - not increase the chance to win, not see what he's got, nada.

your spot through hard work, and some people don't.

Dude has given everything to the Giants. He always wanted to be a Giant, and he outworks everybody on the team. He always says the right thing, he's always professional, and he's basically a coach on the field.

He's an all time great and through no fault of his own his team has gone to sh-t around him.

IMO, he deserves to end the streak on his terms as long as he can still perform the duty better than anybody else available.

to questions people's fandom.

Yeah, it's so lame to be huge fans of arguably the Greatest Giant of all time and one of the Greatest Giants coaches of all time.

How dumb.

which makes it important to me. My opinion of him as a player or my personal happiness, satisfaction, whatever as a fan does not depend on the streak in any way. But it's my impression that he cares about it, and he has more than earned the right to keep it going if he wants to, especially since any change serves no benefit to the team. I'd be very disappointed in the team if they forced him to miss a game against his will.

People still pay to see Eli Manning. He's pretty much one of the only reasons it's worth it for people to go see the Giants in person right now.

anytime soon and that stadium will be dead empty in December.