It would not be the end of the world if it came to an end for me. I don't want to see it end however. Not this year anyway. After watching most of my hopes for the Giants this year circle the drain, ending the streak by benching Eli would be the cherry on top of a big pile of shit. I can't bring myself to root for the Giants to lose and get that really high draft pick. They sure are headed that way though. As long as Eli stays healthy I see no harm in playing him. Get Webb some snaps but don't bench Eli.
Also, the team likely has a very good idea of what Webb is at the moment, and it's repeatedly said he's not ready.
I know fans don't want to hear it, but there's a good chance we're not finding out much about the post-Eli future anytime soon, imo.
You think mid-season you are going to promote Webb to first team practice reps and start him in 2-3 weeks? He barely threw the ball in pre-season and I doubt he gets much practice reps during the season.
Geno is more likely to take over than Webb.
The best way to evaluate Webb is to dump Geno and have Webb take over the #2. Live action is meaningless if the guy is not ready.
so I am not assuming their decisions are necessarily the right ones.
The problem with that logic is that, under the current CBA, it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. There really isn't enough practice time during the season for players to crack the lineup if they didn't do so in camp/preseason. It was certainly true in the past that playing time was earned in practice, but I don't think it is anymore. The lineup is what it is unless injuries or in-game ineffectiveness intervene (and sometimes even the latter isn't a given).
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I hear you, but players earn their time in practice. It's entirely possible these were their best options in that regard. Talent acquisition needs big improvement, without a doubt. And at the end of the season, there will be changes to the staffs. I just don't see them doing what's best for the fans between now and then.
The problem with that logic is that, under the current CBA, it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. There really isn't enough practice time during the season for players to crack the lineup if they didn't do so in camp/preseason. It was certainly true in the past that playing time was earned in practice, but I don't think it is anymore. The lineup is what it is unless injuries or in-game ineffectiveness intervene (and sometimes even the latter isn't a given).
Which is why Reese, and Ross, and anybody else who has any knowledge of the situation said they wanted him to sit and learn for a couple years.
I don't get why this is so hard for people to understand. It's so clear...
But the amazing significance of the streak is its legitimacy and it would be completely unacceptable to "just start and then remove him" simply to keep the streak alive. That would serve to put an asterisk next to what is otherwise quite an accomplishment.
I would only want him to get two more games so he passes his brother.
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I hear you, but players earn their time in practice. It's entirely possible these were their best options in that regard. Talent acquisition needs big improvement, without a doubt. And at the end of the season, there will be changes to the staffs. I just don't see them doing what's best for the fans between now and then.
The problem with that logic is that, under the current CBA, it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. There really isn't enough practice time during the season for players to crack the lineup if they didn't do so in camp/preseason. It was certainly true in the past that playing time was earned in practice, but I don't think it is anymore. The lineup is what it is unless injuries or in-game ineffectiveness intervene (and sometimes even the latter isn't a given).
It appears this coaching staff still follows the practice meritocracy principle.
My comment was just more in response to the idea that just b/c the coaching staff isn't putting someone in the game doesn't mean they aren't capable. McAdoo and staff have already shown they will stick with the wrong guy for too long, so their decision not to play Webb doesn't tell me much about whether Webb is capable or not.
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In comment 13683777 JonC said:
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I hear you, but players earn their time in practice. It's entirely possible these were their best options in that regard. Talent acquisition needs big improvement, without a doubt. And at the end of the season, there will be changes to the staffs. I just don't see them doing what's best for the fans between now and then.
The problem with that logic is that, under the current CBA, it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. There really isn't enough practice time during the season for players to crack the lineup if they didn't do so in camp/preseason. It was certainly true in the past that playing time was earned in practice, but I don't think it is anymore. The lineup is what it is unless injuries or in-game ineffectiveness intervene (and sometimes even the latter isn't a given).
It appears this coaching staff still follows the practice meritocracy principle.
My point is there are only so many reps to go around given the limitations under the current CBA, so the opportunity for any depth chart movement is extremely minimal. It's not really a meritocracy unless all parties involved actually have a chance to display their merit.
A true meritocracy doesn't award bonus points simply for being the incumbent, but due to the practice time restrictions, the Giants (and most/all NFL teams, probably) essentially do, since the 1's get the majority of time and attention in practice.