Who could Giants target if they fire Ben McAdoo? (Vacchiano)

''Shanahan, meanwhile, won’t be able to take any significant members of head coach Dan Quinn‘s staff with him to San Francisco. The Falcons will prevent him from pilfering the likes of assistant head coach/wide receivers coach Raheem Morris, running backs coach Bobby Turner and offensive line coach Chris Morgan, a source told Schultz. However, offensive assistants Mike McDaniel, Mike LaFleur and Matt LaFleur could end up with Shanahan’s 49ers.''

Should hire Matt LaFleur to call plays.

In comment 13682100 Emil said:

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In preferential order: Nick Saban - I hesitate to put him at #3, but his resume alone puts him high on the list. I don't see it happening. He won't leave Alabama without a big buyout, and won't return to the NFL unless he has a say in personnel. Considering he has never won anything at the NFL level as a HC, I can't see the Giants meeting his demands.

He went 15-17 with Gus Ferrotte and Joey Harrington as his quarterbacks.

In comment 13682264 ajr2456 said:

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In comment 13682100 Emil said: Quote: In preferential order: Nick Saban - I hesitate to put him at #3, but his resume alone puts him high on the list. I don't see it happening. He won't leave Alabama without a big buyout, and won't return to the NFL unless he has a say in personnel. Considering he has never won anything at the NFL level as a HC, I can't see the Giants meeting his demands. He went 15-17 with Gus Ferrotte and Joey Harrington as his quarterbacks.

No playoff appearances, 9-7 in year 1, 6-10 in year 2, and bailed on Miami. You don't give that type of pro-resume GM authority. He still has to earn it.

In comment 13682078 Rory said:

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Darrell Bevell and how he has been able to handle his offensive line struggles. Also despite the committee at RB this team is 5-3 Might I add has developed Golden Tate Richard Locket Jermaine Kearse Doug Baldwin and now Paul Richardson

And I'd be willing to bet he was the reason they drafted Wilson in the third round.

Go Badgers!!!

In comment 13682268 Emil said:

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In comment 13682264 ajr2456 said: Quote: In comment 13682100 Emil said: Quote: In preferential order: Nick Saban - I hesitate to put him at #3, but his resume alone puts him high on the list. I don't see it happening. He won't leave Alabama without a big buyout, and won't return to the NFL unless he has a say in personnel. Considering he has never won anything at the NFL level as a HC, I can't see the Giants meeting his demands. He went 15-17 with Gus Ferrotte and Joey Harrington as his quarterbacks. No playoff appearances, 9-7 in year 1, 6-10 in year 2, and bailed on Miami. You don't give that type of pro-resume GM authority. He still has to earn it.

The year before he got there they were 4-12. He left because he wanted Brees and ownership wanted Culpepper. I'd think it's safe to say Saban was right.

Questions:
Is MacMagoo an 11-5 or a 3-13 coach?
Will Giants run wide open Offense or Run it down your throat?
The NFL is getting more wide open every year. Long term it would seem logical to draft mobile QB with adaptable RB's .
Defense needs to find faster LB's and DL. The model is "nascar" defense
No way can you have a JimBob Cooter coaching in NJ

BINGO. Reese needs to go first, let the new GM pick the coach (or keep McAdoo)...not the owners.

In comment 13682129 shyster said:

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hired Bill Parcells, just as he had hired Ray Perkins.In his contract, George Young has full authority over the selection and dismissal of coaches." This is the precedent for the functioning of the franchise to which NYG needs to return. it worked before - ( New Window )

one of these college colleges is going to figure out to run an offense that capitalizes on the college style of play the young players coming into the NFL are trained for.

As a player he was coached by Bill Walsh, Bill Parcells, Bill Belichick and Jon Gruden.

I understand there's no chance of this happening just an idea.

That shipped sailed when Tom Coughlin was hired in 2004. Sons of Wellington aren't giving up control of the coaching staff or the roster.

I don't dislike any of those candidates besides Haley

In comment 13682062 AnnapolisMike said:

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John Harbaugh if the Ravens go in a different direction. Saban is too old. McDaniels is a big no.

Agree. Shaw, if he's willing to go to the NFL, which he has said he's not keen to do. Reich looks like the hot young coordinator who's thriving with a young QB. I don't want Saban; I doubt he's hungry enough for an NFL HC job. McDaniels, who the fuck knows with these guys who come out of New England? Little Bill runs everything, I don't know what these assistants really do.

In comment 13682072 jlukes said:

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to work with our future young QB

Well ownership insisted that that was McAdoo. So what's the level of trust that the next person will be any better if it's Mara picking again. Need some fresh eyes for this team.

In comment 13682129 shyster said:

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hired Bill Parcells, just as he had hired Ray Perkins.In his contract, George Young has full authority over the selection and dismissal of coaches."

Young wanted to replace Parcells with Howard Schnellenberger after Parcells' bad first season. Couldn't make the deal, had to settle for Parcells.

That's a better structure, but no structure is perfect.

and an even better human being.

He's my number one choice. Someone tell Mara.

If he were, his quarterback wouldn't be taking such a beating. I don't know shit about protections, but Wentz looks like he's week to week before he gets hurt.

In comment 13682295 Giantslifer said:

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No way can you have a JimBob Cooter coaching in NJ

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they have my CV, we shall see

there were reports that the Giants had an offer to him before they signed Macadoo and Saban was ready to take the job but his wife didn't want to leave Tuscaloosa. So you can probably count him out.

MAra should not be allowed to pick the HC. They suck at picking coaches. The very fact that they let the three greatest HCs in NFL history walk away is enough let alone that they also hired the two worst HCs in NFL history.

Let Reese pick the next HC. IF you want to fire Reese that's fine, fire him too. Just don't let John Mara pick the next guy to run this team.

What on earth did Mara see in McAdoo????

In comment 13682196 micky said:

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just on the way Mara does things..non knee-jerk actions

wanna bet?

is that the team will do nothing and just sit on what they have now and don't fix whats obviously broken.......

In comment 13682256 ajr2456 said:

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Should hire Matt LaFleur to call plays.

How do you propose they get an OC in the first year of his contract to make a lateral move? Or, more importantly, how much compensation are you willing to give the Rams to let him out of his contract?

And before anyone throws in the "make him AHC" idea, just know that there are only two distinctions in the NFL with regards to allowing a coach out of his contract: head coach and assistant coach. The Rams don't have to allow LaFleur out of his contract for anything other than a head coach position. Teams will often allow position coaches to interview for a coordinator position out of courtesy (and because it looks bad for them with future hires if they don't allow some flexibility for opportunities to advance) but there's no reason why the Rams would let their own OC become someone else's OC.

can't get excited about anyone there.
David Shaw? let's bring back Woody and Bo too, 3 yards and a cloud of dust...keep looking Ralphie!

wouldn't take the Giants job now, so I completely discounted him from the list.

from the Falcons in some form, than I am warming to my idea of Chris Morgan (OL coach there) as a great HC candidate. I wonder how RB coach there (Bobby Turner), would be as OC (obviously worked with both Morgan and Shanny) and maybe Norv Turner (not related I think) as advisor / associate HC or QB coach to make sure the play action synchs.

Would be nice to have an old cruster in a deal like that.

I remember that McDaniel was the guy who drafted Tim Tebow with the 1st round pick. I don't remember who the Denver GM was back then; I doubt it was Elway. Does anyone remember how the Tebow pick played out? was it McDaniel or the GM who wanted Tebow in the 1st round?

I guess I'm the only person that rather go with Patricia at the head coach, just like his predecessor he knows how to make a team with spare parts when necessary and use their talents wisely.

I rather go with him as a head coach and let him hire a guru offensive coordinator.

Young, has head coaching experience and isn’t likely to clash with the GM.

In comment 13682205 Emil said:
[quote] In comment 13682162 arcarsenal said:



David Shaw - Big fan of his. Great leader, consistent, and flexible with his schemes. Highly doubt he is leaving Stanford for the NFL. If you haven't read Peter King's article on Shaw from 2013, I have linked it below. A must read.

Teryl Austin - Highly respected Defensive coordinator. Made the interview rounds last two offseasons. Could be his time.

Nick Saban - I hesitate to put him at #3, but his resume alone puts him high on the list. I don't see it happening. He won't leave Alabama without a big buyout, and won't return to the NFL unless he has a say in personnel. Considering he has never won anything at the NFL level as a HC, I can't see the Giants meeting his demands.

Mike Smith - Count me as someone who liked the idea of Smith prior to the McAdoo hire. In my opinion, Smith is unfairly criticized for the failure of the Falcons. His teams were always competitive. He had 5 winning seasons in 7 years. His failure was having a 1-4 playoff record. I'm shocked he has not had a second chance yet, especially considering he won 59% of his games.

Frank Reich - Nice to see the former Bill and NFL legend rebound with the Eagles (did I just say that) after McCoy's staff collapsed in San Diego. When Reich was the QB coach for the Charges, Rivers had some of his best years. Would be a nice addition from an offensive/QB coaching perspective, but does he have the ability to be a Head Coach?

Jeff McDaniels - I don't hold the time in Denver against him as much as others do. I thought his coaching was ok, but his performance selecting players is what sunk him. If he was our OC I might be comfortable promoting from within, but seems like too much of a risk. Who knows, he has a first class mind for offense, but can he be the Head Coach?

Todd Haley - Very much not interested.
Don't Be Fooled, The Future of Offense is Flexibility - ( New Window )

Shaw. Wanted him when they hired McAdoo. I didnt like McDaniels at the time, but his Denver experience is far behind him and more time with BB has to have made him wiser. How could you not lile Saban? You could say he is too inflexible, and is better coaching college kids, but he has pelts on the wall and a system that works. They mention Linehan, but what about Marinelli? I want Matt Patricia.

This team needs a spark and a creative offensive mind from a proven winning program to erase the stank around here.

We need creativity and flexibility...not stubbornness. Adapt the systems to the players if and when necessary and have the balls to do it before it’s too late.

I think Josh can relate better to the players, has wisened up, and seems a much better leader than what McAdoo is showing he is... which to me has been the most unfortunate part of this ordeal... Leaders are... McAdoo is /trying/ to be one, but people see right through that and don’t respect him.

Allow Josh to build a winning program here. I think he has the highest upside.