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If Darnold opts to stay in school (question)

joeinpa : 11/9/2017 9:33 am
There s been speculation that if Browns have first pick the kid would stay in school, Cowherd.

In this scenerio Browns get Rosen and Giants miss out on the quarterback they might want.

What are the options they might pursue to let the Darnold camp know he is their guy and what is the time table to do so.

This is assuming Giants want one if these two guys.
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Boil it down to draft day  
JonC : 11/9/2017 2:36 pm : link
the forced pick is what matters in context here, I don't have time or interest to again spell out the preceding events that landed them in that place. Keep it simple works fine here.

Flowers has a home here  
JonC : 11/9/2017 2:39 pm : link
the arrow is pointing up and by all accounts he's putting the work in to improve. There might not be a better tackle available to NYG next offseason.
Tend to agree jonc and Pugh is a tackle  
idiotsavant : 11/9/2017 2:56 pm : link
Guards and Centers high then!
People always said 'you don't draft players early to play guard'  
idiotsavant : 11/9/2017 2:58 pm : link
But. We are were we are. Nobody can dispute that .
Spelling  
idiotsavant : 11/9/2017 3:06 pm : link
Where we are. Not were . damn phone.
RE: Why would the Giants draft a qb and let him sit behind Eli for the  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 11/9/2017 3:12 pm : link
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next 3 or 4 years? This is their opportunity to rebuild their oline.


Omg people are delusional. :D

Eli is not going to be here 3 or 4 more years. Good grief. Even if he did, at his current rate of decline he will be a shadow of himself when his contract ends in 2 years.
The greatest danger here imho  
idiotsavant : 11/9/2017 3:15 pm : link
Is, rather than picking and managing to win games, without realising it; managing and picking to justify prior decisions, a strategy or a person.

Which is probably a fairly frequent source of misdirection in established groups and organisations. Not at all unique here.
I do also think that Ronald Jones is going to shoot  
barens : 11/9/2017 3:53 pm : link
up draft boards after the combine. That dude is fast, and he knows how to find the end zone. Really good year for running backs.
OG-Quenton Nelson -Notre Dame  
GeorgeAdams33 : 11/9/2017 6:01 pm : link
...should be our top pick after a trade down.
RE: OG-Quenton Nelson -Notre Dame  
BigBlueShock : 11/9/2017 6:10 pm : link
In comment 13684093 GeorgeAdams33 said:
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...should be our top pick after a trade down.

I’m really warming up to this. Dude looks like one of the best guards to come around in a long time. If they don’t love a QB, Nelson is the guy I want. As long as they are top 5, there SHOULD be some trade down opportunities from a team that needs a QB or loves Barkley. Or whatever other players rise up the boards. Which brings up that point. It’s way too early in the process at this point. Players will rise and fall, but there’s no harm in discussing it as of today, I suppose.
With regards to 'trade downs increasing risk' (no)  
idiotsavant : 11/9/2017 8:42 pm : link
They might be well served to head over to Columbia or NYU and confer with some mathematicians or statisticians.

Wheres trading down may bring a player with slightly more warts (depending on position maybe not even this) you are in fact getting two or three for one which lowers -greatly- your risk that the formerly inly player turns out to not have a useful career.


Sounds like they are conflating lack of confidence in their process with an actual risk value.
Why not Mason Rudolph?  
nyynyg : 11/10/2017 7:12 am : link
Interested to hear thoughts on him. Why is he not in the conversation?
Be careful judging a QB solely by how he looks in these games..  
EricJ : 11/10/2017 7:24 am : link
So much of whether the QB will be successful in the NFL is not as easy to see while watching on Saturday.

Just take a look at the current group of QBs who are playing today. I would bet that they look different now (On the field) than they did in their senior year in college.

My concern is the group of coaches we have right now. The pic below of Farley is us and the car is our first pick...

RE: RE: OG-Quenton Nelson -Notre Dame  
Milton : 11/10/2017 7:54 am : link
In comment 13684098 BigBlueShock said:
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In comment 13684093 GeorgeAdams33 said:


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...should be our top pick after a trade down.


I’m really warming up to this. Dude looks like one of the best guards to come around in a long time.
Could be the best since Chance Warmack!
RE: RE: RE: OG-Quenton Nelson -Notre Dame  
barens : 11/10/2017 8:07 am : link
In comment 13684537 Milton said:
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In comment 13684093 GeorgeAdams33 said:


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...should be our top pick after a trade down.


I’m really warming up to this. Dude looks like one of the best guards to come around in a long time.

Could be the best since Chance Warmack!


Or Zack Martin..
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