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Fate of Slade Poll

Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/9/2017 10:48 am
Keep or ban Slade?
Keep
Ban
build quizzes
Bound to a flag pole outside MetLife  
jcn56 : 11/9/2017 10:50 am : link
with his eyes duct taped open, forced to watch a continuous loop of a Ben McAdoo press conference.
Nice!  
EJJ : 11/9/2017 10:51 am : link
This should be good
I  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/9/2017 10:52 am : link
just edited it so people can't vote more than once from same IP.
Ban  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/9/2017 10:52 am : link
this jackass.
Sentenced to life  
EJJ : 11/9/2017 10:52 am : link
Cellmates Eli Apple and Coach Mac!!
.  
BigBlue4You09 : 11/9/2017 10:53 am : link
.  
arcarsenal : 11/9/2017 10:53 am : link
LOL - the poll is almost even right now
Great!  
BigBlueShock : 11/9/2017 10:54 am : link
I guess this means that you will post a poll before banning ANYONE in the future? Chris in Philly, among others could have used this.
Love to see the demographics of the responses.  
Diver_Down : 11/9/2017 10:56 am : link
a poster from the UK, poster from Jacksonville, CA, etc.
RE: Love to see the demographics of the responses.  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/9/2017 10:57 am : link
In comment 13683433 Diver_Down said:
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a poster from the UK, poster from Jacksonville, CA, etc.


That's pretty cool, isn't it?
Slade is voting  
Tom from LI : 11/9/2017 11:01 am : link
Keep like a mutha f@@@ker right now..

Keep
"Refresh" Keep

Repeat..
I would say to give him a week or two and see what happens before  
Saos1n : 11/9/2017 11:01 am : link
The ban is issued... simply because he wasn’t let go yesterday, doesn’t make him incorrect...
No care  
idiotsavant : 11/9/2017 11:01 am : link
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RE: RE: Love to see the demographics of the responses.  
Diver_Down : 11/9/2017 11:01 am : link
In comment 13683434 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 13683433 Diver_Down said:


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a poster from the UK, poster from Jacksonville, CA, etc.



That's pretty cool, isn't it?


Very cool. Someone from New Brunswick just voted. It goes to show the size of the community extends to some varied locales outside of the tri-state area.
I voted to keep  
bigbluehoya : 11/9/2017 11:02 am : link
The guy is evidently full of shit, but the threads and reactions provide a good respite from the endless arguments about Eli.
and....  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/9/2017 11:03 am : link
Slade is falling behind the pack now... it's back and forth...

Shades of the Warren Sapp click-a-thon...
Eric  
NorwoodWideRight : 11/9/2017 11:03 am : link
This is waaay better than your previous Twitter polls. I approve.
Wait, people want to keep a troll?  
jlukes : 11/9/2017 11:05 am : link
un-friggen believable that this is even a discussion

RE: I voted to keep  
JCin332 : 11/9/2017 11:05 am : link
In comment 13683446 bigbluehoya said:
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The guy is evidently full of shit, but the threads and reactions provide a good respite from the endless arguments about Eli.


This...
Not trying to be snarky  
Metnut : 11/9/2017 11:09 am : link
but I wish that some other posters had gotten the chance
before getting banned that Slade's getting here.
Wait, who is he?  
Route 9 : 11/9/2017 11:11 am : link
I voted him to stay and I don't even know who that is
This is tougher than it sounds  
Emil : 11/9/2017 11:11 am : link
Slade was known as cvic years back. And under that handle, had a pretty good track record.

I have not voted yet, but am wondering if banning Slade will discourage others who potentially have inside information from posting. As annoying as Slade has been recently, do we run the risk of chasing away other insiders?

Interested in your thoughts.
wh ban him?  
djm : 11/9/2017 11:12 am : link
if we banned every idiot we'd be left with 2-3 posters here.

Don't ban the guy. Just don't take anything he says seriously.
Theres only 1 insider on bbi  
Keith : 11/9/2017 11:13 am : link
and he doesn't really have much of a life, so I think we are ok. He aint goin nowhere.
RE: This is tougher than it sounds  
Modus Operandi : 11/9/2017 11:13 am : link
In comment 13683467 Emil said:
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Slade was known as cvic years back. And under that handle, had a pretty good track record.

I have not voted yet, but am wondering if banning Slade will discourage others who potentially have inside information from posting. As annoying as Slade has been recently, do we run the risk of chasing away other insiders?

Interested in your thoughts.


This same arguement has been going on for literally decades.

Yet you still have people here claiming inside info.
RE: This is tougher than it sounds  
Jay on the Island : 11/9/2017 11:14 am : link
In comment 13683467 Emil said:
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Slade was known as cvic years back. And under that handle, had a pretty good track record.

I have not voted yet, but am wondering if banning Slade will discourage others who potentially have inside information from posting. As annoying as Slade has been recently, do we run the risk of chasing away other insiders?

Interested in your thoughts.

I think keeping him will discourage others with information to step forward. When someone has actual information they may hesitate to post here because of the comments directed at Slade. There will be several posters who will assume that it is another troll just trying to get people riled up.
Keep him for sure  
Jim in Forest Hills : 11/9/2017 11:15 am : link
Not sure why everyone gets upset. No need to ban him, he's not abusive or an asshole.
RE: Keep him for sure  
Modus Operandi : 11/9/2017 11:17 am : link
In comment 13683476 Jim in Forest Hills said:
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Not sure why everyone gets upset. No need to ban him, he's not abusive or an asshole.


Evidently, you haven't read his posts on the few threads he happens to return to. He should be banned for those alone, is recent bannings are a barometer.

RE: Theres only 1 insider on bbi  
arcarsenal : 11/9/2017 11:18 am : link
In comment 13683471 Keith said:
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and he doesn't really have much of a life, so I think we are ok. He aint goin nowhere.


I thought area junk was gone....
No dot in Seoul?  
Giants_ROK : 11/9/2017 11:18 am : link
WTF?
is this vote actually determinative?  
GiantNatty : 11/9/2017 11:19 am : link
are you really going to ban him if the mob shouts for his head and gives the thumbs down sign?
if so, ban the motherfocker!  
GiantNatty : 11/9/2017 11:20 am : link
bwahahahaha!


just kiddin. he has committed no bannable offense.
Wrong vote  
Thegratefulhead : 11/9/2017 11:20 am : link
I voted to ban but I have changed my mind. I can choose to not believe what he says. I had some diversion for minutes the other day. If it is possible please change my vote.
RE: wh ban him?  
Les in TO : 11/9/2017 11:21 am : link
In comment 13683470 djm said:
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if we banned every idiot we'd be left with 2-3 posters here.

Don't ban the guy. Just don't take anything he says seriously.
this.
Even if he posts nonsense, what is the tangible harm?  
Bill L : 11/9/2017 11:23 am : link
If he is right or if he is wrong (and knowingly so), how does whatever particular piece of (possibly misleading) knowledge impact your life and well-being?

I can't see how any stupid shit he posts comes close to violating the ToS.
.....  
BrettNYG10 : 11/9/2017 11:24 am : link
Remind everyone that we have the Electoral College so the popular vote doesn't matter.

Assert your authority.
RE: Wrong vote  
Modus Operandi : 11/9/2017 11:24 am : link
In comment 13683487 Thegratefulhead said:
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I voted to ban but I have changed my mind. I can choose to not believe what he says. I had some diversion for minutes the other day. If it is possible please change my vote.


Great. Now we're going to have to count hanging chads.
RE: RE: This is tougher than it sounds  
Bill L : 11/9/2017 11:25 am : link
In comment 13683473 Jay on the Island said:
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In comment 13683467 Emil said:


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Slade was known as cvic years back. And under that handle, had a pretty good track record.

I have not voted yet, but am wondering if banning Slade will discourage others who potentially have inside information from posting. As annoying as Slade has been recently, do we run the risk of chasing away other insiders?

Interested in your thoughts.


I think keeping him will discourage others with information to step forward. When someone has actual information they may hesitate to post here because of the comments directed at Slade. There will be several posters who will assume that it is another troll just trying to get people riled up.
Are we making money or saving lives based on that information? Or lack of it?
RE: No care  
T-Bone : 11/9/2017 11:25 am : link
In comment 13683443 idiotsavant said:
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Same.
RE: wh ban him?  
Route 9 : 11/9/2017 11:26 am : link
In comment 13683470 djm said:
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if we banned every idiot we'd be left with 2-3 posters here.



I called it months ago, just Brett, Arc and myself will be running the show here. That's fine with me.
RE: Wait, people want to keep a troll?  
BigBlue4You09 : 11/9/2017 11:27 am : link
In comment 13683454 jlukes said:
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un-friggen believable that this is even a discussion


It's pretty pathetic isn't it
Folks, this is a POLL, not a referendum. The decision is still Eric's  
Marty in Albany : 11/9/2017 11:27 am : link
as are all other decisions about running this board.
Keep!  
Joey from GlenCove : 11/9/2017 11:28 am : link
Yesterday was fun!!

This is entertainment at the end of the day. It’s no affecting my finances.
RE: Theres only 1 insider on bbi  
BigBlueShock : 11/9/2017 11:30 am : link
In comment 13683471 Keith said:
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and he doesn't really have much of a life, so I think we are ok. He aint goin nowhere.

What has hitdog ever done to you?
His fate should be directly tied to whether his bold prediction  
EricJ : 11/9/2017 11:31 am : link
comes true.... and I dont mean at the end of the season. He indicated that it would happen sooner vs later. So, if McAdoo is still here at the end of Nov then by Slade
Nah!  
old man : 11/9/2017 11:31 am : link
Let's give Slade to the start of our last game of the season.
If not true by then, we find him, take him out and shoot him.
At least he can't post under an alias..Ever. ;-)
I don't think he  
Someguy1978 : 11/9/2017 11:32 am : link
should be banned. The hilarity that follows whenever he posts is legendary.
Maybe we should make him do community service  
Joey from GlenCove : 11/9/2017 11:32 am : link
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RE: RE: Keep him for sure  
Jim in Forest Hills : 11/9/2017 11:32 am : link
In comment 13683478 Modus Operandi said:
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In comment 13683476 Jim in Forest Hills said:


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Not sure why everyone gets upset. No need to ban him, he's not abusive or an asshole.



Evidently, you haven't read his posts on the few threads he happens to return to. He should be banned for those alone, is recent bannings are a barometer.


I just dont take him seriously.
Let me expand on my answer  
Ron from Ninerland : 11/9/2017 11:34 am : link
I voted to ban. One of the reasons I come to this site is to get late breaking news, football and non-football. There is nothing more annoying than to see a fake news headline with nothing to back it up. It makes no difference to me if its some asshole who fancies himself an insider or some juvenile looking to stir the pot. Its perfectly okay to speculate or pass on rumors but it needs to be in the original post. In other words its OK to post a thread title:

So and so says: Mcadoo to be fired.

maybe even

Rumor: McAdoo to be fired

or even

Mens room attendant at MetLife: McAdoo to be fired.


What should no be tolerated is stating as fact

McAdoo to be fired

unless its been reported as fact by a reputable source.
To be honest, I change my vote to keep him....  
Keith : 11/9/2017 11:35 am : link
Facts:

1. Slade is full of it and has no inside info.
2. Slades fake info gets tons of activity on bbi.
3. Nobody comes to bbi for real football info, other than what people post on the forum that's breaking news from other avenues. How many people actually visit the antiquatede home page for football content? I'd guess less than 10% of posters.
4. The actual football content on bbi is severely lacking compared to real football sites.


Having said all that, Slade is a great fit for bbi.
RE: Let me expand on my answer  
adamg : 11/9/2017 11:35 am : link
In comment 13683523 Ron from Ninerland said:
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I voted to ban. One of the reasons I come to this site is to get late breaking news, football and non-football. There is nothing more annoying than to see a fake news headline with nothing to back it up. It makes no difference to me if its some asshole who fancies himself an insider or some juvenile looking to stir the pot. Its perfectly okay to speculate or pass on rumors but it needs to be in the original post. In other words its OK to post a thread title:

So and so says: Mcadoo to be fired.

maybe even

Rumor: McAdoo to be fired

or even

Mens room attendant at MetLife: McAdoo to be fired.


What should no be tolerated is stating as fact

McAdoo to be fired

unless its been reported as fact by a reputable source.


+1
RE: To be honest, I change my vote to keep him....  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/9/2017 11:37 am : link
In comment 13683525 Keith said:
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Facts:

1. Slade is full of it and has no inside info.
2. Slades fake info gets tons of activity on bbi.
3. Nobody comes to bbi for real football info, other than what people post on the forum that's breaking news from other avenues. How many people actually visit the antiquatede home page for football content? I'd guess less than 10% of posters.
4. The actual football content on bbi is severely lacking compared to real football sites.


Having said all that, Slade is a great fit for bbi.


You'd be surprised at how many BBI'ers tell me they only visit the front page and stay off the Forum.
please  
PaulBlakeTSU : 11/9/2017 11:38 am : link
stop catering this site to the lowest common denominator of deplorable posters and trolls with no regard for the truth or for having intelligent discussion. Why are you even considering keeping someone around who continues to peddle fake news?

It's as if this has been going on since 2015, really picked up through 2016, and now in 2017 it has made BBI almost unbearable.
You can vote from different devices..  
AnnapolisMike : 11/9/2017 11:38 am : link
just sayin . . . .
BBI is really the ONLY site I go to for football information  
Route 9 : 11/9/2017 11:41 am : link
Anything I need to know and that's usually discussed, I get it from on here
His threads are funny...  
KingBlue : 11/9/2017 11:41 am : link
I read them, not because I believe he has any credible information, but I enjoy all the shit that gets thrown is way.

...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/9/2017 11:44 am : link
Interesting to see how passionate people are about this...

Get rid of trolls at all costs adherents vs. what's the harm in the entertainment value.


Reminds me of that drag the Eagle guy who I thought was a fake until people started telling me they met him at tailgates. A lot of people wanted him gone while others said, he's real and doing no harm. Then he started posting crap that got him in trouble.
RE: RE: To be honest, I change my vote to keep him....  
Keith : 11/9/2017 11:46 am : link
In comment 13683528 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 13683525 Keith said:


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Facts:

1. Slade is full of it and has no inside info.
2. Slades fake info gets tons of activity on bbi.
3. Nobody comes to bbi for real football info, other than what people post on the forum that's breaking news from other avenues. How many people actually visit the antiquatede home page for football content? I'd guess less than 10% of posters.
4. The actual football content on bbi is severely lacking compared to real football sites.


Having said all that, Slade is a great fit for bbi.



You'd be surprised at how many BBI'ers tell me they only visit the front page and stay off the Forum.


I'm sure there are a few grandpas that won't go near this forum and I don't blame them. I'm not sure if you care about my opinion, but you are going in the wrong direction here buddy.
All the troll posts, have the same posters  
Route 9 : 11/9/2017 11:47 am : link
trashing the trolls. Makes them feel cool again.
RE: RE: This is tougher than it sounds  
Emil : 11/9/2017 11:48 am : link
In comment 13683472 Modus Operandi said:
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In comment 13683467 Emil said:


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Slade was known as cvic years back. And under that handle, had a pretty good track record.

I have not voted yet, but am wondering if banning Slade will discourage others who potentially have inside information from posting. As annoying as Slade has been recently, do we run the risk of chasing away other insiders?

Interested in your thoughts.



This same arguement has been going on for literally decades.

Yet you still have people here claiming inside info.


You could very well be right
Keith  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/9/2017 11:54 am : link
Opinions vary. The front page look is dated but not ridiculously so. We'll upgrade it again at some point.

Personally, I think the content is on par with most other sites. Take for example, Sy's draft previews and the game reviews over the years (Joey, Sy, rnargi, etc). Camp reports used to be better because of Albany - the move to East Rutherford really hurt us there, but this past year gidiefor and Sy did great with the camp reports. Their videocasts from camp were the best I've seen from the various outlets in terms of actual substance and interviews.

During the season, the front page is largely a compilation of the days news... injury report, interviews, transactions... my feeling is that is what most people want... a quick summary of what transpired in the day and they can then pick and choose whether or not they want to dive into a particular interview or article.
If we ban everyone other than the..  
Racer : 11/9/2017 11:54 am : link
...18 guys whose posts I follow, easier morning for me.
RE: ...  
Bchurch : 11/9/2017 11:55 am : link
In comment 13683543 Eric from BBI said:
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Interesting to see how passionate people are about this...

Get rid of trolls at all costs adherents vs. what's the harm in the entertainment value.


Reminds me of that drag the Eagle guy who I thought was a fake until people started telling me they met him at tailgates. A lot of people wanted him gone while others said, he's real and doing no harm. Then he started posting crap that got him in trouble.


At least Rich was funny or tried to be.. Slade makes this one liner bold statements with no follow up. I think that is what really infuriates posters. You can be wrong but don't make these bold claims and then disappear without owning it. I think he is a fraud and should be banned.
Bchurch  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/9/2017 11:58 am : link
leaning in that direction too...

I'll always cut asshats a lot of slack but it's been a long, long time with slade. His style suggests trolling at this point.

That said, as you can see, it's 50/50 right now with the masses on whether he should stay or go. I was hoping for a more decisive result.
What happened to the eagle dragger?  
TommytheElephant : 11/9/2017 11:58 am : link
Rich, right?
RE: What happened to the eagle dragger?  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/9/2017 11:59 am : link
In comment 13683573 TommytheElephant said:
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Rich, right?


I forget the specific infraction, but he went off the rails on something. It was bad.
Rich is good people  
idiotsavant : 11/9/2017 11:59 am : link
.
Wow close results so far  
DennyInDenville : 11/9/2017 12:03 pm : link
I voted keep, tho he deserves to be banned probly
RE: Bchurch  
NNJ Tom : 11/9/2017 12:05 pm : link
In comment 13683571 Eric from BBI said:
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leaning in that direction too...

I'll always cut asshats a lot of slack but it's been a long, long time with slade. His style suggests trolling at this point.

That said, as you can see, it's 50/50 right now with the masses on whether he should stay or go. I was hoping for a more decisive result.


Maybe do best out of three. I think I want to change my vote, but I forget how I voted.

It's likely  
PaulBlakeTSU : 11/9/2017 12:06 pm : link
just Slade and a few of the schmucks that like him voting over and over again.
I have no problem with Slade  
ij_reilly : 11/9/2017 12:09 pm : link
I ignore posts/posters that I find annoying, useless, or rude.

Others choose to engage such people. That's on them, not the poster.

I have no problem with Slade.
Ban his alter-ego Dodge too.  
Gatorade Dunk : 11/9/2017 12:15 pm : link
nt
Before I vote can  
Tittle 9 20 64 : 11/9/2017 12:18 pm : link
someone refresh my memory on what he was ever right about?
What happened to Rich?  
Canton : 11/9/2017 12:19 pm : link
Is he still amongst the living...
He's still draggin the eagle out in LA.  
Britt in VA : 11/9/2017 12:23 pm : link
.
RE: I would say to give him a week or two and see what happens before  
Gatorade Dunk : 11/9/2017 12:27 pm : link
In comment 13683442 Saos1n said:
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The ban is issued... simply because he wasn’t let go yesterday, doesn’t make him incorrect...

It absolutely does. He posted that McAdoo had already been fired. He's full of it.
Shame about Rich  
Banks : 11/9/2017 12:28 pm : link
He posted some strange, strange stuff, but I thought dragging the eagle was kinda funny. Didn't he do it at the Link too?
RE: Wow close results so far  
Gatorade Dunk : 11/9/2017 12:29 pm : link
In comment 13683579 DennyInDenville said:
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I voted keep, tho he deserves to be banned probly

So why vote keep?
(S)He turned me into a newt!  
ij_reilly : 11/9/2017 12:33 pm : link
....
wow  
mattlawson : 11/9/2017 12:34 pm : link
50/50
Will he get the....  
Canton : 11/9/2017 12:35 pm : link
RE: Let me expand on my answer  
Mike from SI : 11/9/2017 12:36 pm : link
In comment 13683523 Ron from Ninerland said:
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I voted to ban. One of the reasons I come to this site is to get late breaking news, football and non-football. There is nothing more annoying than to see a fake news headline with nothing to back it up. It makes no difference to me if its some asshole who fancies himself an insider or some juvenile looking to stir the pot. Its perfectly okay to speculate or pass on rumors but it needs to be in the original post. In other words its OK to post a thread title:

So and so says: Mcadoo to be fired.

maybe even

Rumor: McAdoo to be fired

or even

Mens room attendant at MetLife: McAdoo to be fired.


What should no be tolerated is stating as fact

McAdoo to be fired

unless its been reported as fact by a reputable source.


This is why I'm adamant he should be banned. I saw the title and almost messaged my friends, who would have roasted me. Eric's been clear that people shouldn't post rumors as facts.
Are you not entertained?  
Gary from The East End : Admin : 11/9/2017 12:45 pm : link
the results  
PaulBlakeTSU : 11/9/2017 12:48 pm : link
are embarrassing.
Give me Slade or give me death...  
Moose and Fury : 11/9/2017 12:48 pm : link
Come on guys...if you don't really want to believe what Slade has to say, don't read his posts. Or read them, but don't take into account anything he has to say. Whether he's just gotten lucky or not, he has been right some of the time, and at the very least it makes for good chatter and entertainment value.

This is the worst I've felt as a Giants fan in a really, really long time, and I certainly am not coming to BBI to hear how Chris Casher's workout went.

LET SLADE LIVE!
Ban  
eclipz928 : 11/9/2017 12:48 pm : link
For a site like this, a hard line about having no fake news regarding the Giants should be of highest priority.

If you let this go, then you have to let everything go.
RE: RE: ...  
jcn56 : 11/9/2017 12:50 pm : link
In comment 13683568 Bchurch said:
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In comment 13683543 Eric from BBI said:


Quote:


Interesting to see how passionate people are about this...

Get rid of trolls at all costs adherents vs. what's the harm in the entertainment value.


Reminds me of that drag the Eagle guy who I thought was a fake until people started telling me they met him at tailgates. A lot of people wanted him gone while others said, he's real and doing no harm. Then he started posting crap that got him in trouble.



At least Rich was funny or tried to be.. Slade makes this one liner bold statements with no follow up. I think that is what really infuriates posters. You can be wrong but don't make these bold claims and then disappear without owning it. I think he is a fraud and should be banned.


Rich didn't just try to be funny - he posted after one game that he knew first hand Osi needed surgery (and to have pins inserted into his leg) and was going to be out for the season.

Didn't happen, obviously. Apparently, the alleyway behind the Tick Tock Diner was not the hotspot for NFL intel he thought it was.
RE: the results  
Gatorade Dunk : 11/9/2017 12:51 pm : link
In comment 13683641 PaulBlakeTSU said:
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are embarrassing.

Agreed. It's either Slade himself using proxy servers to vote (which would be quite the effort) or the lurkers who don't really have skin in the game.

This board is worse with Slade than without. He's a bonafide troll.
How do we know that Russian bots  
Mr. Bungle : 11/9/2017 12:51 pm : link
aren't voting?
I really think Rich had some serious issues  
Post Time : 11/9/2017 12:52 pm : link
I know most of the stuff he said about his dad was BS, but even if 1/10th of it was true, he was really abused as a kid.

The image of the turkey leg going through the TV screen makes me laugh, though.
Have to keep,  
oldog : 11/9/2017 12:57 pm : link
First Amendment.
when do polls close?  
NoPeanutz : 11/9/2017 12:58 pm : link
.
RE: RE: Wow close results so far  
DennyInDenville : 11/9/2017 12:58 pm : link
In comment 13683622 Gatorade Dunk said:
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In comment 13683579 DennyInDenville said:


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I voted keep, tho he deserves to be banned probly


So why vote keep?

Good question, I actually just voted a 2nd time and voted Ban. So hopefully it evens out.


All Ban posters, hit the polls now! The votes are needed!
The image from years ago  
PaulBlakeTSU : 11/9/2017 1:00 pm : link
of BBI presenting a trophy on a trashcan has never felt so appropriate.
Slade might win the lottery here.  
Bill L : 11/9/2017 1:00 pm : link
Shirley Jackson style.
What's the drop from the Kay show?  
Giant John : 11/9/2017 1:02 pm : link
I don't care, I don't care. About the most annoying thing a human can hear. But...
I don't care...
I voted to keep  
jtfuoco : 11/9/2017 1:02 pm : link
Only because this is a shit season and it actually had me entertained and he never attacks anybody but just gives crappy fake news
RE: RE: RE: Wow close results so far  
Mike from SI : 11/9/2017 1:08 pm : link
In comment 13683657 DennyInDenville said:
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In comment 13683622 Gatorade Dunk said:


Quote:


In comment 13683579 DennyInDenville said:


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I voted keep, tho he deserves to be banned probly


So why vote keep?


Good question, I actually just voted a 2nd time and voted Ban. So hopefully it evens out.


All Ban posters, hit the polls now! The votes are needed!


Admitted voter fraud!
RE: Have to keep,  
Gatorade Dunk : 11/9/2017 1:08 pm : link
In comment 13683655 oldog said:
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First Amendment.

That's not how that works. No one is voting to imprison Slade.

What a shame that people use that justification without understanding what it means.
...  
Dodge : 11/9/2017 1:11 pm : link
Yet you call to ban me.

Mob rule is turning on me too.
Can't believe so many of you are this mad  
UConn4523 : 11/9/2017 1:11 pm : link
long live the Slade
RE: I really think Rich had some serious issues  
arcarsenal : 11/9/2017 1:11 pm : link
In comment 13683649 Post Time said:
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I know most of the stuff he said about his dad was BS, but even if 1/10th of it was true, he was really abused as a kid.

The image of the turkey leg going through the TV screen makes me laugh, though.


It shouldn't have been funny, but the stories about the dad with the Schlitz cans made me giggle uncontrollably - I'm already going to hell, so whatever.
What is this, American Idol?  
David B. : 11/9/2017 1:16 pm : link
Why are you asking people to vote?

Is there a site policy, or isn't there?

Everything else aside, this is not about what the troll does.

It's about how the website handles it.
Can the BBI community count on the site to handle things consistently, reliably, and according to stated policy? Or can't they?

What's the message this site wants to send to the next troll? Go ahead -- you might not get voted off the island.

I've run a web community that's almost as old as this one, and one thing I've learned is that if you establish site rules, you damn-well better enforce them consistently. If you don't, the assholes take advantage of that situation, and the good members lose respect for the site and its hosts.

Gatorade,  
oldog : 11/9/2017 1:17 pm : link
I simply refer you to the jurisprudence.
I can't believe this thread exists  
UConn4523 : 11/9/2017 1:18 pm : link
ban him or don't, but make the decision and be done with it. Talk about a waste of bandwidth.
I voted to keep  
WillVAB : 11/9/2017 1:21 pm : link
Pretty childish to be so ban hungry imo.
Inter Alia,  
oldog : 11/9/2017 1:24 pm : link
see recently, Packingham v. North Carolina.
The last thing we want  
NoPeanutz : 11/9/2017 1:28 pm : link
is the inmates running the prison.
RE: RE: the results  
ron mexico : 11/9/2017 1:30 pm : link
In comment 13683646 Gatorade Dunk said:
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In comment 13683641 PaulBlakeTSU said:


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are embarrassing.


Agreed. It's either Slade himself using proxy servers to vote (which would be quite the effort) or the lurkers who don't really have skin in the game.

This board is worse with Slade than without. He's a bonafide troll.


Mostly lurker here who voted to keep him, mostly to piss off people like you with "skin in the game". It's an online forum about a sports team for fuks sake. Get over yourselves.
How about a block or ignore feature?  
BigBlue4You09 : 11/9/2017 1:41 pm : link
Solves all problems
.  
arcarsenal : 11/9/2017 1:43 pm : link
Wow - almost dead even.

Funny stuff.
RE: What is this, American Idol?  
yatqb : 11/9/2017 1:55 pm : link
In comment 13683682 David B. said:
Quote:
Why are you asking people to vote?

Is there a site policy, or isn't there?

Everything else aside, this is not about what the troll does.

It's about how the website handles it.
Can the BBI community count on the site to handle things consistently, reliably, and according to stated policy? Or can't they?

What's the message this site wants to send to the next troll? Go ahead -- you might not get voted off the island.

I've run a web community that's almost as old as this one, and one thing I've learned is that if you establish site rules, you damn-well better enforce them consistently. If you don't, the assholes take advantage of that situation, and the good members lose respect for the site and its hosts.


+ 1,000,000

WTF has BBI become? A place where great posters are banished but putzes like Slade and a host of other horrific posters can foul the site routinely? Really pathetic.
well I'll say this if allowed  
micky : 11/9/2017 1:56 pm : link
no one should be banned for posting fake stuff on April fools day then. Eric won't have a leg to stand on
RE: What is this, American Idol?  
BigBlue4You09 : 11/9/2017 1:59 pm : link
In comment 13683682 David B. said:
Quote:
Why are you asking people to vote?

Is there a site policy, or isn't there?

Everything else aside, this is not about what the troll does.

It's about how the website handles it.
Can the BBI community count on the site to handle things consistently, reliably, and according to stated policy? Or can't they?

What's the message this site wants to send to the next troll? Go ahead -- you might not get voted off the island.

I've run a web community that's almost as old as this one, and one thing I've learned is that if you establish site rules, you damn-well better enforce them consistently. If you don't, the assholes take advantage of that situation, and the good members lose respect for the site and its hosts.


Exactly
"good poster"  
Chris684 : 11/9/2017 2:02 pm : link
Is highly subjective.

Who is or is not a "good poster" depends on who you ask.

What I see on this site is a group of crusty old veterans who think that because they have been here longer or post more often that that somehow means they are generally smarter overall or when it comes to football.

Why not let Eric run his website the way he wants and maybe leave if you don't like it?
RE: well I'll say this if allowed  
ron mexico : 11/9/2017 2:04 pm : link
In comment 13683740 micky said:
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no one should be banned for posting fake stuff on April fools day then. Eric won't have a leg to stand on


That remains an idiotic rule.

Ohh no someone tried to make a joke! JFC I don't understand how some of you make it through the day.
Russians  
Gman11 : 11/9/2017 2:05 pm : link
are influencing the voting.
The fact that it has been 50/50  
illmatic : 11/9/2017 2:05 pm : link
the whole time makes it seem like something is up. I really doubt slade has that many supporters. lol. He has been worthless for quite some times now.

And yeah, put me in the camp that says he just should have been banned without a poll. Unless you're 100% certain that the poll can't be rigged but it's obvious that it can be. It let me vote twice, once on my phone and once on my laptop so I'm sure others are getting the same odd things. The only thing we're good at here as far as rules goes is making sure anything political isn't allowed.
I voted keep because I like chaos  
Nitro : 11/9/2017 2:10 pm : link
and the fact that he's present rustles so many jimmies. It was 365-365.
Eric making his judgement:  
Nitro : 11/9/2017 2:10 pm : link
Keep Slade!  
Toastt34 : 11/9/2017 2:13 pm : link
Voted. Keeping him is now up by 3 votes.
RE: Inter Alia,  
Gatorade Dunk : 11/9/2017 2:15 pm : link
In comment 13683694 oldog said:
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see recently, Packingham v. North Carolina.

A decision overturning government restrictions on social media is far from apples to apples with regards to a message board community self managing its policies. The first amendment protects citizens from the government on matters of free speech. It does not prevent private business owners from determining how they want to run their company (or message board, in this case). If the government was stepping in to ban Slade, your example might - MIGHT - hold water, but that's not what's happening here.
If you keep Slade  
Keaton028 : 11/9/2017 2:18 pm : link
It sets a precedent for other BS trolls to look to and point at. So, if he is not banned here, be ready for the potential of more of these false, unsubstantiated claims to be posted more frequently and by other faux "insiders". Whatever the value is in entertainment of these posts, still lowers the legitimacy of the site.
RE: The fact that it has been 50/50  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/9/2017 2:22 pm : link
In comment 13683750 illmatic said:
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the whole time makes it seem like something is up. I really doubt slade has that many supporters. lol. He has been worthless for quite some times now.

And yeah, put me in the camp that says he just should have been banned without a poll. Unless you're 100% certain that the poll can't be rigged but it's obvious that it can be. It let me vote twice, once on my phone and once on my laptop so I'm sure others are getting the same odd things. The only thing we're good at here as far as rules goes is making sure anything political isn't allowed.


Sure, if people are going to take the time and effort to vote from multiple devices, they are going to be able to do that.

Part of my intent to do this was to show people that their view wasn't clearly the majority view... but I had no idea it would be this close.

No one with BBI is messing with this poll.
RE: well I'll say this if allowed  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/9/2017 2:23 pm : link
In comment 13683740 micky said:
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no one should be banned for posting fake stuff on April fools day then. Eric won't have a leg to stand on


Again, the extenuating circumstance in this case is that cvic/slade posted great stuff for about a year until turning to crap. So he was cut a lot of slack. We don't want to run off asshats.

That said, he's been batting 0.000 for quite some time now.
RE: RE: The fact that it has been 50/50  
AJ23 : 11/9/2017 2:27 pm : link
In comment 13683770 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 13683750 illmatic said:


Quote:


the whole time makes it seem like something is up. I really doubt slade has that many supporters. lol. He has been worthless for quite some times now.

And yeah, put me in the camp that says he just should have been banned without a poll. Unless you're 100% certain that the poll can't be rigged but it's obvious that it can be. It let me vote twice, once on my phone and once on my laptop so I'm sure others are getting the same odd things. The only thing we're good at here as far as rules goes is making sure anything political isn't allowed.



Sure, if people are going to take the time and effort to vote from multiple devices, they are going to be able to do that.

Part of my intent to do this was to show people that their view wasn't clearly the majority view... but I had no idea it would be this close.

No one with BBI is messing with this poll.


Eric, I don't think it's limited to once/device. I voted twice on the same device. All I had to do was refresh the thread... Then I came back just now and could vote a 3rd time.
.  
arcarsenal : 11/9/2017 2:27 pm : link
382-382

I'm actually just amused that it's like this.
RE: ...  
AcidTest : 11/9/2017 2:27 pm : link
In comment 13683543 Eric from BBI said:
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Interesting to see how passionate people are about this...

Get rid of trolls at all costs adherents vs. what's the harm in the entertainment value.


Reminds me of that drag the Eagle guy who I thought was a fake until people started telling me they met him at tailgates. A lot of people wanted him gone while others said, he's real and doing no harm. Then he started posting crap that got him in trouble.


That was Rich in Houston. I don't have the information you do, but some of his posts were very entertaining.
Even if Slade  
Keaton028 : 11/9/2017 2:27 pm : link
Was sincere in his predictions and false information distribution, he should also have realized this might be a consequence should he be wrong too many times. No sympathy here.
AJ23  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/9/2017 2:29 pm : link
Weird... I am not seeing that after I changed that option in the voting options.

Regardless, I'm sure some people are voting more than once.
RE: Keith  
AcidTest : 11/9/2017 2:31 pm : link
In comment 13683563 Eric from BBI said:
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Opinions vary. The front page look is dated but not ridiculously so. We'll upgrade it again at some point.

Personally, I think the content is on par with most other sites. Take for example, Sy's draft previews and the game reviews over the years (Joey, Sy, rnargi, etc). Camp reports used to be better because of Albany - the move to East Rutherford really hurt us there, but this past year gidiefor and Sy did great with the camp reports. Their videocasts from camp were the best I've seen from the various outlets in terms of actual substance and interviews.

During the season, the front page is largely a compilation of the days news... injury report, interviews, transactions... my feeling is that is what most people want... a quick summary of what transpired in the day and they can then pick and choose whether or not they want to dive into a particular interview or article.


The content is great, especially Sy's reports. You can't find that on other sites.
Love the sense of humor Eric!  
trueblueinpw : 11/9/2017 2:34 pm : link
We can really use the levity around here with G’aints season already two weeks over. Nice!
I agree  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 11/9/2017 2:35 pm : link
RE: AJ23  
Post Time : 11/9/2017 2:53 pm : link
In comment 13683788 Eric from BBI said:
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Weird... I am not seeing that after I changed that option in the voting options.

Regardless, I'm sure some people are voting more than once.

It allows you to vote again, but the vote is not registered in the totals.
How do you know the Giants are bad?  
EliIsEliteX2 : 11/9/2017 3:01 pm : link
When its a Thursday in mid-November and the highest commented thread of the day is about whether or not Slade should be banned.
Pretty solid hotspot downtown on the geo heatmap  
Gatorade Dunk : 11/9/2017 3:04 pm : link
What are the odds that's Slade repeatedly clearing his cache and voting for himself?
I wonder if Slade voted for himself  
Rjanyg : 11/9/2017 3:08 pm : link
to be safe?

Also, I never knew until today that Slade was/is cvic.
Sy's content is superb.  
Keith : 11/9/2017 3:13 pm : link
If I am him, I'm probably a little concerned contributing to an entertainment site rather than an actual sports site that reports real info.
RE: Sy's content is superb.  
jvm52106 : 11/9/2017 3:22 pm : link
In comment 13683839 Keith said:
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If I am him, I'm probably a little concerned contributing to an entertainment site rather than an actual sports site that reports real info.



Nobody is holding you hostage here.. Feel free to go to those "real" news sites...
dicky do,  
Keith : 11/9/2017 3:23 pm : link
I do go to other sites. I come here for the community and discussion that goes well beyond sports. Appreciate you allowing me to do whatever I want though...
You guys have some thin skin...  
HoustonGiant : 11/9/2017 3:24 pm : link
You'd last 2 seconds on my car forum. It's a haven for ass-hattery and trolling!


www.bunchaaholes.com
My First Thought Was To Vote To Ban  
Jim in Tampa : 11/9/2017 3:24 pm : link
But since I stopped believing Slade a long time ago and his threads are so entertaining, I voted to let him stay.

I'm especially amused by how many posters continue to believe him after he's been wrong over and over and over again.

It's like watching Lucy hold the football for Charlie Brown.
Eric  
njm : 11/9/2017 3:27 pm : link
So when does the poll close?
RE: Sy's content is superb.  
gidiefor : Mod : 11/9/2017 3:28 pm : link
In comment 13683839 Keith said:
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If I am him, I'm probably a little concerned contributing to an entertainment site rather than an actual sports site that reports real info.


Keith --

all sports info sites are considered entertainment.
this site is both an info and discussion site, and by definition that provides entertainment -- now whether the entertainment is good or not - is purely subjective.

Sy is a professional athlete, a Giants fan, and a professional football talent evaluator, and he likes this venue because he gets to share his perspective with fellow fans here, but he also does work professionally for other venues.
Sy is legit and I love his content.  
Keith : 11/9/2017 3:31 pm : link
The amount of time he spends doing what he does is clearly extensive. The owner of this site knowingly allows fake posters to post fake information for entertainment. That would concern me if I took my job seriously and spent the time that he does.

Who knows, maybe it doesn't concern him, I'm just saying that I wouldn't want to be associated with that.
RE: Sy is legit and I love his content.  
ron mexico : 11/9/2017 3:40 pm : link
In comment 13683863 Keith said:
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The amount of time he spends doing what he does is clearly extensive. The owner of this site knowingly allows fake posters to post fake information for entertainment. That would concern me if I took my job seriously and spent the time that he does.

Who knows, maybe it doesn't concern him, I'm just saying that I wouldn't want to be associated with that.


How does one impact the other?

How are they associated with each other?
it made sense  
PaulBlakeTSU : 11/9/2017 3:40 pm : link
when BBI had a community and could be help up as an example of a great discussion board with intelligent conversations on the Giants as well as the news of the day, economics, and world affairs.

But the trolls and garbage on this site that have been allowed to stay have led to many of the most thoughtful posters leaving or posting far, far less, and so the overall quality of conversation on here has fallen off a cliff.
RE: Sy is legit and I love his content.  
gidiefor : Mod : 11/9/2017 3:40 pm : link
In comment 13683863 Keith said:
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The owner of this site knowingly allows fake posters to post fake information for entertainment. That would concern me if I took my job seriously and spent the time that he does.


Keith - I love you but you are really making a leap here. Please reread what Eric wrote. He wrote that Slade had been making solid seemingly inside info posts when he first came on the scene here, and that he had been giving him considerable benefit of the doubt because of it, but he also suggested that Slade may have worn out his welcome by being consistently off for a while now.
gidie, the feeling is mutual.  
Keith : 11/9/2017 3:44 pm : link
I'm just stating how I feel. If I am Sy and putting in the work he does, I take that seriously. I don't want to be associated with a site that allows people to do what slade does.

Now I understand the canundrum(sp?) as slade used to be someone that hit on some stuff. If that is the case(and I certainly don't remember that long ago), he clearly has jumped the shark. The only thing Slade hit was Marshall, but it's very clear what he does(sees a news story and then posts some BS in the hopes it comes true). He's been wrong about the OL(mentioned on multiple occassions that we were close to a trade. Hes been wrong on the coach, personnel moves in the offseason, the eraser. NOt only has he been wrong on all of it, there has been no mention of any of it in the press. Don't you think something would have leaked if they were discussing?
That's like saying U2 shouldn't put a music video on youtube  
ron mexico : 11/9/2017 3:46 pm : link
Because of what is said in the comments. Makes no sense
Not quite.  
Keith : 11/9/2017 3:51 pm : link
It's like saying U2 won't play in a rock festival with The Ron Mexico band because The Ron Mexico band sucks.
RE: gidie, the feeling is mutual.  
gidiefor : Mod : 11/9/2017 3:51 pm : link
In comment 13683897 Keith said:
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I'm just stating how I feel. If I am Sy and putting in the work he does, I take that seriously. I don't want to be associated with a site that allows people to do what slade does.

Now I understand the canundrum(sp?) as slade used to be someone that hit on some stuff. If that is the case(and I certainly don't remember that long ago), he clearly has jumped the shark. The only thing Slade hit was Marshall, but it's very clear what he does(sees a news story and then posts some BS in the hopes it comes true). He's been wrong about the OL(mentioned on multiple occassions that we were close to a trade. Hes been wrong on the coach, personnel moves in the offseason, the eraser. NOt only has he been wrong on all of it, there has been no mention of any of it in the press. Don't you think something would have leaked if they were discussing?


No argument from me -- but if I was a betting man I'd take the odds that Slade will not be posting anymore
Not quite.  
Keith : 11/9/2017 3:52 pm : link
It's like saying U2 won't play Woodstock with Milli Vanilli AFTER it becamse public that they lip sinc.
My 2nd analogy  
Keith : 11/9/2017 3:53 pm : link
is so much better, please focus on that one!
Count me in as one of the people  
Face Pepler : 11/9/2017 3:57 pm : link
who think this is crap. I've been here 17 years. This is ridiculous. Not interested in this shit.
RE: Eric  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/9/2017 4:03 pm : link
In comment 13683857 njm said:
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So when does the poll close?


My wife just asked the same thing... We're both kind of laughing about this.

8PM sound good?
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/9/2017 4:04 pm : link
One of our cats also seems amused. He won't get away from my screen.
Eric  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 11/9/2017 4:05 pm : link
Completely random, but do you own a smart phone yet?
Anyone find that vote spike in favor of "keep" a little while ago odd?  
Gatorade Dunk : 11/9/2017 4:10 pm : link
Right when Slade's fate was slipping away? And yes, I'm following this much more closely than any grown man should.
.  
arcarsenal : 11/9/2017 4:10 pm : link
The poll actually is kind of funny.

The poll I'd like to see is which faux-insider BBI would prefer... Slade or area junk.
RE: Eric  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/9/2017 4:16 pm : link
In comment 13683953 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
Quote:
Completely random, but do you own a smart phone yet?


LOL... no, I'm a dinosaur. I had a piece of crap cellphone for a while but never turned it on.
Slade's ban is imminent  
adamg : 11/9/2017 4:24 pm : link
Hopefully
No Ban  
JimNY56 : 11/9/2017 4:36 pm : link
1] he is not abusive, unlike some on this site
2] has not picked fights with anyone
3] he is not selling anything
4] whether what he says is true or not, the threads are still entertaining.
5] don't believe him, don't click on his thread

6] Eric, Jim In Tampa at 3:24 said it best:

My First Thought Was To Vote To Ban but since I stopped believing Slade a long time ago and his threads are so entertaining, I voted to let him stay.

I'm especially amused by how many posters continue to believe him after he's been wrong over and over and over again.

It's like watching Lucy hold the football for Charlie Brown.


Poor Charlie Brown. Poor pranked Posters.
Was a poll responsible for insiders being called asshats on here?  
Shepherdsam : 11/9/2017 4:40 pm : link

That one still confuses me.
Slade rushes throws, can't hit receivers in stride and  
SHO'NUFF : 11/9/2017 4:42 pm : link
constantly throws high.... his game has noticably declined the past few years... but we don't have anybody better...keep him.
A Shepardsam sighting?  
gidiefor : Mod : 11/9/2017 4:43 pm : link
Whooo Hooooo!
Slade = Eli  
Dnew15 : 11/9/2017 5:58 pm : link
Not good ... just lucky
:)
RE: Not quite.  
ron mexico : 11/9/2017 6:04 pm : link
In comment 13683918 Keith said:
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It's like saying U2 won't play Woodstock with Milli Vanilli AFTER it becamse public that they lip sinc.


Umm no it not, they are not working together in any way shape or form. Nor does it appear that they are.

And the Ron Mexico band fucking rocks!
I voted to keep him around  
GeorgeAdams33 : 11/9/2017 6:09 pm : link
Where is the glovedone and which Tuesday is big Tuesday?
When  
mrvax : 11/9/2017 6:14 pm : link
does the poll close?
I abstain.  
KerrysFlask : 11/9/2017 6:25 pm : link
.
.. But he sucks... For the record.  
KerrysFlask : 11/9/2017 6:26 pm : link
.
what's cool about this is that April fools day  
micky : 11/9/2017 6:29 pm : link
is open house now
I don't know this is kind of funny on this thread  
Route 9 : 11/9/2017 6:45 pm : link
More entertaining than any training camp report

Lol Shep is back! We needed you off the IR
Wow, so many votes.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/9/2017 6:47 pm : link
Finally, a democracy that works!
It has been said many times that BBI is a community.  
Marty in Albany : 11/9/2017 6:49 pm : link
It is good to be in this community–many would say, it is a privilege. But what does our community really consist of?

Basically, it consists of words. Only words. Words that can make us think happy thoughts or angry ones–words that keep us well informed, and in touch with the rest of the world.

If the words are sometimes mistaken--made in error, that can be forgiven. Nobody is perfect. But as a community we rely on the words to be well intended and factually true, or to be a true expression of a poster’s opinion.

Words that are intentional lies have no place in a community that consists only of words and where all we have to rely on are words.
RE: Wow, so many votes.  
AnnapolisMike : 11/9/2017 6:50 pm : link
In comment 13684156 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Finally, a democracy that works!


Except many voted multiple times committing voting fraud.
RE: RE: Wow, so many votes.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/9/2017 6:51 pm : link
In comment 13684161 AnnapolisMike said:
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In comment 13684156 Ten Ton Hammer said:


Quote:


Finally, a democracy that works!



Except many voted multiple times committing voting fraud.


Art imitating life.
RE: Was a poll responsible for insiders being called asshats on here?  
Milton : 11/9/2017 7:06 pm : link
Yes.
Question for Eric  
JohnF : 11/9/2017 7:07 pm : link
We have options for Football Topics and Non Football Topics when we post. Why not either a) Create a new "Rumors" tag, so that those people who want to see those posts can check them out, or b) Assign a permanent sticky for "Rumors", and set up rules so that people who want to post "inside information" without a linked source (like Slade) would have to post in that section, and not on the main topic area?

A lot of the outrage here is that people can post "insider" stuff in the main Football topic area, and it's almost impossible to tell if they are trolling, or have real information that may or may not come out the way they posted it. A "Rumors" sticky would avoid that (with the help of the Mods, who could educate new asshats, and discipline those who are abusing it).

It would also make the board a bit friendlier for those "insiders" who like to share information, as there's no reason to attack someone posting in a "Rumors" sticky.
RE: Question for Eric  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/9/2017 7:13 pm : link
In comment 13684194 JohnF said:
Quote:
We have options for Football Topics and Non Football Topics when we post. Why not either a) Create a new "Rumors" tag, so that those people who want to see those posts can check them out, or b) Assign a permanent sticky for "Rumors", and set up rules so that people who want to post "inside information" without a linked source (like Slade) would have to post in that section, and not on the main topic area?

A lot of the outrage here is that people can post "insider" stuff in the main Football topic area, and it's almost impossible to tell if they are trolling, or have real information that may or may not come out the way they posted it. A "Rumors" sticky would avoid that (with the help of the Mods, who could educate new asshats, and discipline those who are abusing it).

It would also make the board a bit friendlier for those "insiders" who like to share information, as there's no reason to attack someone posting in a "Rumors" sticky.


I like this idea. I wonder how difficult it would be to implement.
RE: ...  
Jay in Toronto : 11/9/2017 7:36 pm : link
In comment 13683949 Eric from BBI said:
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One of our cats also seems amused. He won't get away from my screen.


Which way did your cat vote???
RE: RE: Wow, so many votes.  
Gatorade Dunk : 11/9/2017 8:06 pm : link
In comment 13684161 AnnapolisMike said:
Quote:
In comment 13684156 Ten Ton Hammer said:


Quote:


Finally, a democracy that works!



Except many voted multiple times committing voting fraud.

Those two voting spikes sure are interesting, both when "keep" was way behind.
Cats vote on more important things...  
JohnF : 11/9/2017 8:35 pm : link
So now we know who's been running BBI  
Modus Operandi : 11/9/2017 8:39 pm : link
The last two years.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/9/2017 9:07 pm : link
Cat was more interested in mouse pointer. I think he thought this poll was stupid.

As of 9:08PM, it looks like more people want him to stay. I was sure he was toast.
Not suspicious at all.  
guitarguybs12 : 11/9/2017 9:11 pm : link
RE: Not suspicious at all.  
Gatorade Dunk : 11/9/2017 9:20 pm : link
In comment 13684331 guitarguybs12 said:
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Seriously. The rest of the voting through the day was pretty steady (and was trending toward ban) - in the afternoon, ban started to pull away and then there was a sudden spike in keep. Then the evening spike to put keep over the top? It's odd.
Hahahhahaha  
Route 9 : 11/9/2017 9:25 pm : link
Shame on you 2017 Giants. This is way more exciting than taking about the likes of Flowers, Apple and shitty football.
Hmmmm  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/9/2017 9:26 pm : link
that spike is VERY suspicious.

When I last checked, he was losing. I was actually coming on to ban him and checked one more time and was surprised he pulled ahead.
Eric  
mrvax : 11/9/2017 9:34 pm : link
Can you view the IP addresses of the votes? I know it should be limited to only 1 per but...
Make a new poll  
spike : 11/9/2017 9:35 pm : link
. And bookmark it up to the top of the forum
RE: Make a new poll  
mrvax : 11/9/2017 9:38 pm : link
In comment 13684357 spike said:
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. And bookmark it up to the top of the forum


Spike, you can't. It's called double jeopardy.
Everyone who wanted him banned are  
Diver_Down : 11/9/2017 9:41 pm : link
just pouting that they didn't get their pound of flesh. Look, Eric put it to a vote and set the deadline for 8PM. He can certainly respect the outcome of the poll or he can disregard it entirely. His site - His rules. But don't be upset because you didn't get the results that you wanted.
hmm  
madhatter9382 : 11/9/2017 9:48 pm : link
i dont care either way but did he break any actual rules?
.  
arcarsenal : 11/9/2017 9:51 pm : link
LOL, cmon, that spike is so obvious.

Am I allowed to make a joke about Russians hacking the poll?

(If not, I take it back)
There should be an episode  
bigbluehoya : 11/9/2017 9:53 pm : link
Of Black Mirror about this place.

The troll is powerless if you ignore him. And everybody knows it, but for some reason nobody can help themselves, and they waste immense amounts of time bitching about the troll and trying to make it go away.

And the troll flourishes.
RE: hmm  
Diver_Down : 11/9/2017 9:54 pm : link
In comment 13684368 madhatter9382 said:
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i dont care either way but did he break any actual rules?


Why are you presuming "he" break any rules? Eric set up the poll to only allow a single vote from a single IP. Sure you could vote from multiple devices, but the poll didn't count multiple votes from the same device. One of the last screens on the poll allowed you to share the poll. It could easily have been shared on someone's facebook feed imploring friends to vote keep. Nothing against the rule. BBI isn't some secret outpost on the interweb.
RE: hmm  
mrvax : 11/9/2017 9:55 pm : link
In comment 13684368 madhatter9382 said:
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i dont care either way but did he break any actual rules?


I know you can't post up BS news like "Hall Signs!!!" etc. However, this was posted as asshat info which Slade has been woefully lacking this year (Hankins re-sign)..
RE: It has been said many times that BBI is a community.  
christian : 11/9/2017 9:57 pm : link
In comment 13684158 Marty in Albany said:
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It is good to be in this community–many would say, it is a privilege. But what does our community really consist of?

Basically, it consists of words. Only words. Words that can make us think happy thoughts or angry ones–words that keep us well informed, and in touch with the rest of the world.

If the words are sometimes mistaken--made in error, that can be forgiven. Nobody is perfect. But as a community we rely on the words to be well intended and factually true, or to be a true expression of a poster’s opinion.

Words that are intentional lies have no place in a community that consists only of words and where all we have to rely on are words.


Brilliant.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/9/2017 10:18 pm : link
This was my thought process earlier today:

- Cvic/Slade was about a 0.700 asshat poster a few years ago, including some really obscure stuff.

- When he started batting 0.000, his previous history provided him with cover.

- But his postings has become more frequent and spectacularly false... not even close.

- There has been a long-standing rule on BBI to not deliberately post misleading info. Hence my posts yesterday about him not being long for this site. (Latest rumor being his final shot).

- I started this poll more to show folks that support for banning slade was not as dominant as believed, but I still expected him to lose. (I couldn't believe we were at 50/50 for the bulk of the day).

- Now the result shows him staying and even though there are holes in online polling, my dilemma is whether or not to respect the result (influenced by the fact there is a weird spike in votes) or go with my original instinct.

Now I see why my cat thought the poll idea was stupid.
Keep him until  
spike : 11/9/2017 10:21 pm : link
He fails miserable in the upcoming HC and GM searches
.  
arcarsenal : 11/9/2017 10:26 pm : link
Personally, I voted to ban him just because it's obvious what he's doing at this point - but I honestly don't care that much where I'd be outraged if he stays. No one is going to take him seriously. He's just going to turn into the next EliteMob where every thread is a trainwreck.

It's obvious that the poll was compromised somehow so it's a double-edged sword. You probably should respect the result of it - but it's hard to do that when it was pretty clearly tampered with somehow.

I will say that he's not plastered all over the board so it's not like an obnoxious poster that is on 9 out of every 10 threads bothering people. He doesn't really bother me, it's just clear that he has no reliable connection at this point (it doesn't seem like he has any at all) so none of his threads can be taken seriously and will just continue to be what they've turned into.

There are posters who are far more annoying than Slade is.

I'd say go with your gut. The board will go on with or without him.
...  
christian : 11/9/2017 10:30 pm : link
It would be awesome to know how he either spectaculaly gussed right on a number of things, or how someone who once new something has turned totally loco.
RE: .  
mrvax : 11/9/2017 10:35 pm : link
In comment 13684397 arcarsenal said:
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Personally, I voted to ban him just because it's obvious what he's doing at this point - but I honestly don't care that much where I'd be outraged if he stays. No one is going to take him seriously. He's just going to turn into the next EliteMob where every thread is a trainwreck.

It's obvious that the poll was compromised somehow so it's a double-edged sword. You probably should respect the result of it - but it's hard to do that when it was pretty clearly tampered with somehow.

I will say that he's not plastered all over the board so it's not like an obnoxious poster that is on 9 out of every 10 threads bothering people. He doesn't really bother me, it's just clear that he has no reliable connection at this point (it doesn't seem like he has any at all) so none of his threads can be taken seriously and will just continue to be what they've turned into.

There are posters who are far more annoying than Slade is.

I'd say go with your gut. The board will go on with or without him.


Nice post, arc.
RE: Hmmmm  
Gatorade Dunk : 11/9/2017 11:28 pm : link
In comment 13684348 Eric from BBI said:
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that spike is VERY suspicious.

When I last checked, he was losing. I was actually coming on to ban him and checked one more time and was surprised he pulled ahead.

Adding to the suspicious nature of that spike, his most recent thread came immediately after it if you follow the timestamps.
I still want to know what happened to Anak?  
short lease : 11/10/2017 1:05 am : link
How come flat out bans for looooong time posters? Maybe people made honest mistakes? Is there a warning system at all?

Limited bans? They can come back in a month and then permanent? I mean who hasn't posted something stupid here when or while they were drunk? Unless they are obvious trolls - just looking for trouble ...

I know, we are all adults and that would be like baby sitting ...
It is close .... 52 - 48 he stays.  
short lease : 11/10/2017 1:10 am : link
Not sure why folks get so annoyed with him - seems harmless.
RE: ...  
Stan in LA : 11/10/2017 1:37 am : link
In comment 13684388 Eric from BBI said:
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This was my thought process earlier today:

- Cvic/Slade was about a 0.700 asshat poster a few years ago, including some really obscure stuff.

- When he started batting 0.000, his previous history provided him with cover.

- But his postings has become more frequent and spectacularly false... not even close.

- There has been a long-standing rule on BBI to not deliberately post misleading info. Hence my posts yesterday about him not being long for this site. (Latest rumor being his final shot).

- I started this poll more to show folks that support for banning slade was not as dominant as believed, but I still expected him to lose. (I couldn't believe we were at 50/50 for the bulk of the day).

- Now the result shows him staying and even though there are holes in online polling, my dilemma is whether or not to respect the result (influenced by the fact there is a weird spike in votes) or go with my original instinct.

Now I see why my cat thought the poll idea was stupid.


So you didn't like the poll results so you are taking matters into your own hands. Not very honest if you ask me.
RE: RE: ...  
Gatorade Dunk : 11/10/2017 1:58 am : link
In comment 13684474 Stan in LA said:
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In comment 13684388 Eric from BBI said:


Quote:


This was my thought process earlier today:

- Cvic/Slade was about a 0.700 asshat poster a few years ago, including some really obscure stuff.

- When he started batting 0.000, his previous history provided him with cover.

- But his postings has become more frequent and spectacularly false... not even close.

- There has been a long-standing rule on BBI to not deliberately post misleading info. Hence my posts yesterday about him not being long for this site. (Latest rumor being his final shot).

- I started this poll more to show folks that support for banning slade was not as dominant as believed, but I still expected him to lose. (I couldn't believe we were at 50/50 for the bulk of the day).

- Now the result shows him staying and even though there are holes in online polling, my dilemma is whether or not to respect the result (influenced by the fact there is a weird spike in votes) or go with my original instinct.

Now I see why my cat thought the poll idea was stupid.



So you didn't like the poll results so you are taking matters into your own hands. Not very honest if you ask me.

WTF are you talking about? His account is still active. It's like you go seriously go out of your way to be wrong.
RE: RE: RE: ...  
Gatorade Dunk : 11/10/2017 1:59 am : link
In comment 13684482 Gatorade Dunk said:
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In comment 13684474 Stan in LA said:


Quote:


In comment 13684388 Eric from BBI said:


Quote:


This was my thought process earlier today:

- Cvic/Slade was about a 0.700 asshat poster a few years ago, including some really obscure stuff.

- When he started batting 0.000, his previous history provided him with cover.

- But his postings has become more frequent and spectacularly false... not even close.

- There has been a long-standing rule on BBI to not deliberately post misleading info. Hence my posts yesterday about him not being long for this site. (Latest rumor being his final shot).

- I started this poll more to show folks that support for banning slade was not as dominant as believed, but I still expected him to lose. (I couldn't believe we were at 50/50 for the bulk of the day).

- Now the result shows him staying and even though there are holes in online polling, my dilemma is whether or not to respect the result (influenced by the fact there is a weird spike in votes) or go with my original instinct.

Now I see why my cat thought the poll idea was stupid.



So you didn't like the poll results so you are taking matters into your own hands. Not very honest if you ask me.


WTF are you talking about? His account is still active. It's like you go seriously go out of your way to be wrong.

*Disregard either "go" that you prefer.
If you don't like Slade, don't read his posts  
Vanzetti : 11/10/2017 2:44 am : link
I actually don't read most of what he posts.

But people who seriously wanted him banned? Wow. No wonder the world is so fucked up. You want to ban someone you could just ignore.

This is why this place has started  
chopperhatch : 11/10/2017 3:02 am : link
to suck. People are hanging on this guy's every word even tho he has consistently been wrong for 2 years.
RE: This is why this place has started  
short lease : 11/10/2017 7:11 am : link
In comment 13684492 chopperhatch said:
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to suck. People are hanging on this guy's every word even tho he has consistently been wrong for 2 years.


Who are these people? I don't believe anything I hear ... (and only about 1/2 of what I see).

I don't think anybody here hangs onto his every word - especially with his record lately. Most of the stuff Slade says seems obvious anyway. He's harmless.
RE: RE: This is why this place has started  
micky : 11/10/2017 9:54 am : link
In comment 13684522 short lease said:
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In comment 13684492 chopperhatch said:


Quote:


to suck. People are hanging on this guy's every word even tho he has consistently been wrong for 2 years.



Who are these people? I don't believe anything I hear ... (and only about 1/2 of what I see).

I don't think anybody here hangs onto his every word - especially with his record lately. Most of the stuff Slade says seems obvious anyway. He's harmless.


people are gullable and are Darwin Award winners..lol
RE: If you don't like Slade, don't read his posts  
arcarsenal : 11/10/2017 10:12 am : link
In comment 13684488 Vanzetti said:
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I actually don't read most of what he posts.

But people who seriously wanted him banned? Wow. No wonder the world is so fucked up. You want to ban someone you could just ignore.


I think you have to ask what purpose he serves at this point.

If the only thing a guy is doing here is posting fake inside info and doing it for nothing but attention, he's not bringing anything to this place.

I don't think posters should ever get banned just because they share nuggets they hear that turns out to be false - but it's pretty clear the guy is just trolling the board at this point.

Like I said in an earlier post - he doesn't bother me enough for me to be truly affected one way or another, just not really sure if there's any point in it being a "Slade being Slade..." situation. No one takes any of his threads seriously anymore. So, every one he starts is just going to be a pile on.
Gatorade,  
oldog : 11/10/2017 10:35 am : link
nice to know that you followed up. Your first reply implied quite clearly that the First Amendment applied only when the restriction on speech or freedom of the press involved the imprisonment of the speaker. It is apparent that you now concede that this is not the case. The jurisprudence does not yet clearly specify that the control of speech in private media, particularly the now dominant electronic media, will be directly controlled by the application of first amendment principles. My post was brief and to the point, and was intended to remind voters that freedom of speech is an important principle, and that media control should always err on the side of freedom of expression. It was just a reminder to BBI voters that such freedom is fundamental and if there was no harm in what Slade had posted, voters could consider his posts as being amusing and harmless. Of course, a rationally supported ban would be quite appropriate, and if a clear rule was violated eminently justified. Obviously, subject of course to the possible heavy voting irregularity, a good number of those who voted felt that erring on the side of freedom of expression was justified. While I agree with this, I question whether BBI might profit from a stronger ban on contemptuous, ad hominem, and similarly uninformed attacks.
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